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Renew Deal

(81,856 posts)
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 11:00 PM Jun 2020

George Bush Jr. reminds me of Mike Tyson

I know that's a strange comparison, but they have some things in common.

Both came from troubled youth, though for opposite reasons. Tyson had nothing. Bush had it all.
Both had/have personal demons.
Both made poor decisions in their younger days.
Both took bad advice.
Both found ways to get into trouble.

But both also grew up in their own time. I am 100% sure Bush doesn't regret Alito, but I suspect he regrets Cheyney.

I don't want to say it's a lesson for all of us, but we should remember that people become "ready" on their own schedule. Some people like Obama, Buttigieg, and Stacey Abrams got it young. Others like Tyson and Bush took more time to develop. Bush can never take away invading the wrong country. All we can hope for any person is that they can learn and grow.

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George Bush Jr. reminds me of Mike Tyson (Original Post) Renew Deal Jun 2020 OP
Every Former President Looks Grown Up In Comparison To Current One nt sfstaxprep Jun 2020 #1
George W BigMin28 Jun 2020 #3
That's for sure. Renew Deal Jun 2020 #5
For some reason I really want to feel he is a good person. SideStep Jun 2020 #2
If Michelle likes him, then I like him too. PTWB Jun 2020 #4
I would never base liking someone on someone else liking them. SideStep Jun 2020 #7
Well, we all have our own opinions, don't we. dware Jun 2020 #9
Re: Shrub sfstaxprep Jun 2020 #6
W. once bit the ear off TlalocW Jun 2020 #8
I'd pay to see that Renew Deal Jun 2020 #10
W is one of the worst Presidents of all time. BlueTsunami2018 Jun 2020 #11

Renew Deal

(81,856 posts)
5. That's for sure.
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 11:15 PM
Jun 2020

Trump has the opposite problem. He's beyond his expiration date and only getting worse.

 

SideStep

(93 posts)
2. For some reason I really want to feel he is a good person.
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 11:05 PM
Jun 2020

But the unnecessary loss of blood and treasure while he was The Decider takes him out of the good man running.

I want him to put out good statements. I want him to endorse Biden. I want him to sit home and paint.

A good man he is not.

 

PTWB

(4,131 posts)
4. If Michelle likes him, then I like him too.
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 11:10 PM
Jun 2020

I don’t have to like or agree with his politics, but I think I trust her judgement. She has spent a lot more time with the man than I.

It seems in recent years he’s really tried to redeem himself for his terrible policies and mistakes.

 

SideStep

(93 posts)
7. I would never base liking someone on someone else liking them.
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 11:27 PM
Jun 2020

I believe MO really respected how Bush transitioned. Bush seemed to be observant of everything from national security to the Obama’s children. I also think that their relationship has positive aspects for society, and they both know that.

I also know the evil Bush has ushered in as President. The death. The suffering. The torture. It goes on. A good guy he is not.

How many Iraqis are dead? How many American military died in Iraq? Authorized and excused torture. How about his response to Katrina?

sfstaxprep

(9,998 posts)
6. Re: Shrub
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 11:17 PM
Jun 2020

If you're willing to forgive and forget that little 9/11 thing, the whole lying the country into an Iraq War that cost exponentially more lives, the Katrina response, and the Financial Collapse, then I guess he's an o.k. guy.

TlalocW

(15,381 posts)
8. W. once bit the ear off
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 11:28 PM
Jun 2020

James Carville live on TV.

W. had a secretary named Tyson who warned him about attacking Iraq. Tyson had a secretary named Bush who warned him about marrying Robin Givens...

The similarities are eerie.

TlalocW

BlueTsunami2018

(3,491 posts)
11. W is one of the worst Presidents of all time.
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 11:54 PM
Jun 2020

War criminal, serial liar, presided over torture, harmed civil rights, botched one of the worst natural disasters we’ve ever had and cratered the economy.

My assessment is that his soul is black but he still has a soul. He is capable of empathy. He paints, he writes, he has some creativity and thus humanity.

His statement does not absolve him of his many crimes but it does reveal that there is at least some semblance of a heart there. I don’t think the Obamas would give him the time of day otherwise.

He’s better than Тяцмр. Fucking waaaaay better than Тяцмр. But I wouldn’t want him back and I do not miss him. I miss the idea that we couldn’t do worse than him.

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