Because I am such a cynical soul: suppose iq45* tries to postpone or cancel the election? What does

[niyad]

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he think will happen? Yes, he has his blackwater contract killers, the armed maggots, the orange kool-ade drinkers. But, is he certain he has the military? ALL the police around the country?

Does he "think" (and I use the word advisedly), do bannon and miller and whoever (waving to vlad), that the rest of us will simply accept, like mindless sheeples? That we will roll over without a fight?

Or is that what he is hoping for? A real war in the streets, where he can order death and destruction? Does he get his rocks off contemplating killing off everyone who disapproves of him? Does he seriously think he could get away with this? You betcha! And he will love every minute of it, as will the thugs who are encouraging him.

I fear for this country, for all the good, caring, loving people here. The kool-ade drinkers, and those rubbing their hands in anticipation of the destruction can go to the hell they love.

(For all who say it cannot possibly happen because. . Xyz, during the election, when so many were assuring us that this orange buffoon could not possibly win, I reminded people that the same thing was said about hitler, and look how that turned out. This murderous malcontent has done, and gotten away with, so much that we never dreamed possible, that I prefer to remain vigilant.)

[SideStep]

1. That is beyond cynicism.

It's not even a quality thought experiment or conspiracy theory.

Don't mean to be rude but there is nothing out there to suggest anything of the sort will happen. It's not even his decision. That's how far out there this is.

[0rganism]

2. funny, that's just what i thought about a Trump presidency in 2015

i was wrong
hell, i have never been so wrong before or since and i make a lot of mistakes

[SideStep]

6. I'm not sure I understand this as a retort.

Being wrong on the results of an election are not equal to the thought that someone who doesn't have the power to cancel and election will cancel an election.

I'm also not sure why everyone thought Trump didn't have a chance. The polls themselves disagreed with that and most of us were aware outside forces would also influence it toward him by a point or two.

[niyad]

14. Hmmmm. Welcome to DU. Question: were you paying any attention these last ten days?i

If you had been, you might have seen what many of us did- a trial run.

Can I borrow your rose-coloured glasses? Mine seem to be broken.

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16. "If you had been, you might have seen what many of us did- a trial run."

I don't understand that sentence.

My rose colored glasses will be out protesting tonight, just as I was last night. You can borrow them if you want to hit the streets with me.

"were you paying any attention these last ten days?i"

Yes, I have been. Not sure what that has to do with Trump canceling an election he doesn't have the authority to cancel.

Thanks for the welcome.

[leftieNanner]

3. I would not be surprised if he has thought of doing this

But the elections are run by the states and he has no control over them.

When he loses in November, he will scream and wail and call fraud. Barr may even try to do something about it, but once the electors are chosen and they vote for Biden in the EC, there is nothing he can do. The inauguration will go on as scheduled and as of 12:01 on January 20, 2021, he will no longer be the POTUS. US Marshals will escort him out of OUR HOUSE for good.

[Lochloosa]

4. He has no constitutional authority to cancel the elections. They are state run.

[onenote]

5. If I had a nickel for every DU thread that worries about Trump postponing/cancelling the election...

I'd be richer than Trump.

[Aristus]

7. Your average Trappist monk is probably richer than Trump.

He is floating along on an immense ocean of Russian debt...

[SWBTATTReg]

10. I know. It gets pretty old and repetitive. Can these people simply dig up historical DU posts and

perhaps dig up some pertinent facts on elections / the states / trump's possibility of canceling elections / etc. There are literally hundreds of DU trends on this topic. Or, simply look online and do some random google searches. I'm sure that there are thousands of like minded topics on elections and the canceling of them.

Since the states control elections, I'm sure that each and every state has a whole slew of rules, regulations, etc. guiding the entire process of running elections from a to z. Which makes sense being that states also has local and state wide elections which the feds have no jurisdiction what-so-ever.

My beef w/ rump is that he's claiming the massive possibility of fraud on mail in ballots, without evidence, and yet, he's used the same process (in FL) to vote, using a 'fake' or incorrectly provided address.

Hypocrite.

In addition, a hypothetical question here...if the so called elections were canceled etc., wouldn't rump's term still end as of Jan., 2021? He doesn't get an automatic extension of his term. He has to go still and the office is empty. Under the U.S. Constitution, Trump and Vice President Mike Pence cannot stay in office past their four-year terms without being reelected. If the election does not happen for any reason, constitutional rules of succession kick in.

[Orangepeel]

8. there are things to worry about, but this isn't one

It is possible that republican controlled states will have their legislature award electoral college votes to Trump if Biden wins their state (like Florida threatened to do in 2000 before SCOTUS stopped the recount).

[Cracklin Charlie]

9. I have heard it said...

That if Assface suspends his election, Nancy Pelosi becomes president in January.

Don’t know if that’s true.

[Celerity]

17. no, IF there are no elections, zero are held

then there is no House

and the Senate reverts to a

35- 30 Dem majority

so whoever we choose as President pro tempore of the United States Senate would become POTUS until the shitstorm is sorted

[Cracklin Charlie]

18. Thank you.

It’s all so confusing.

[fleur-de-lisa]

11. A few weeks ago I wondered if Americans would have the guts to protest en masse during a pandemic

if Tiny-Fingers tries something fishy in November.

I don't worry about that any more.

[BamaRefugee]

12. I don't think you're cynical at all. If the Chauvin verdict, after the trial gets moved to a lily

white county in Minnesota because "he can't get a fair trial in Minneapolis" comes out just before the election, and it's an acquittal, which statistically it will be, there will be rioting twice the size of what we have now all over the USA.
We all know tRump is chomping at the bit to use the insurrection act. So he does that, and everyone is required to stay at home on election day. So there's no election, or, if only SOME places are open to vote, an invalid election.
And there you have it.

I think I've seen 1000 posts on DU in the last 3.5 years, all saying, "WE GOT HIM NOW" or "TRUMP'S DONE!" or "HE'LL NEVER GET AWAY WITH THIS ONE"...but....HE GETS AWAY WITH EVERYTHING.

Why would it be any different with election interference?

No one ever thought unbadged and unidentified and strangely uniformed fully armed and unaccountable "police" would ever be on the streets of the nation's capitol, but have you seen the news today?

You're not cynical.

Oh by the way, since 2005 there have been 900 to 1000 deaths per year at the hands of police in America. You know how many cops have been found guilty and sent to prison?
THIRTY-FIVE.
So when I say acquittal of Chauvin is highly likely, the numbers back me up.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

13. He can't. Period.

No more than he can command the sun rise in the West.

People here speculated that W would do that in 2004. It was ignorant nonsense then, and is ignorant nonsense now.

It's brought up with amazing frequency here. So much so that I suspect a lot of people perhaps only read the threads they themselves start.

[Wounded Bear]

15. My governor, for one, will tell him to pound sand...

if not something stronger.