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Wed Jun 3, 2020, 04:34 PM

If no Covid spike in protest cities soon, then Covid is over

I did notice that a large number of protesters were indeed wearing masks (good!), but also a large number who weren't. If there are no spikes in cases over the next couple of weeks, can we call Covid almost over?!

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Reply If no Covid spike in protest cities soon, then Covid is over (Original post)
donkeypoofed Jun 2020 OP
Xipe Totec Jun 2020 #1
samnsara Jun 2020 #2
Demovictory9 Jun 2020 #13
MissB Jun 2020 #39
judesedit Jun 2020 #3
bullimiami Jun 2020 #4
dawg day Jun 2020 #5
RussBLib Jun 2020 #6
jayfish Jun 2020 #7
Igel Jun 2020 #26
uponit7771 Jun 2020 #30
Blue_true Jun 2020 #32
elleng Jun 2020 #8
Blue_true Jun 2020 #33
sheshe2 Jun 2020 #9
hlthe2b Jun 2020 #10
Lucinda Jun 2020 #11
cry baby Jun 2020 #12
demmiblue Jun 2020 #14
Mike 03 Jun 2020 #15
Newest Reality Jun 2020 #16
demmiblue Jun 2020 #17
Mike 03 Jun 2020 #19
Moostache Jun 2020 #18
Blue_true Jun 2020 #35
SouthernCal_Dem Jun 2020 #20
lettucebe Jun 2020 #21
Blue_true Jun 2020 #36
LisaL Jun 2020 #22
Blue_true Jun 2020 #38
stillcool Jun 2020 #23
struggle4progress Jun 2020 #24
Stinky The Clown Jun 2020 #25
Blecht Jun 2020 #27
Demsrule86 Jun 2020 #28
LisaL Jun 2020 #29
Demsrule86 Jun 2020 #42
Blue_true Jun 2020 #31
PCIntern Jun 2020 #34
lindysalsagal Jun 2020 #37
cwydro Jun 2020 #40
BannonsLiver Jun 2020 #41
JCMach1 Jun 2020 #43

Response to donkeypoofed (Original post)

Wed Jun 3, 2020, 04:35 PM

1. 2 week lag. Right now we're just beginning to register the rise from Memorial Day nt

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Response to donkeypoofed (Original post)

Wed Jun 3, 2020, 04:36 PM

2. if no spike by Tday then I will venture out

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Response to samnsara (Reply #2)

Wed Jun 3, 2020, 04:42 PM

13. Tday?

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Response to Demovictory9 (Reply #13)

Wed Jun 3, 2020, 08:00 PM

39. I believe that's thanksgiving

Or at least thatís what I mean when I say Tday

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Response to donkeypoofed (Original post)

Wed Jun 3, 2020, 04:37 PM

3. ??? Florida has the highest number of cases since the middle of April.

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Response to donkeypoofed (Original post)

Wed Jun 3, 2020, 04:38 PM

4. Oh yeah it's over. Oh wait..Florida today has the most new cases since April.

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Response to donkeypoofed (Original post)

Wed Jun 3, 2020, 04:39 PM

5. Don't jinx it!

We're still getting 21K new cases a day. The death rate is a bit lower (very likely due to medical personnel figuring out the better ways to treat it), but the infection rate hasn't slowed down with the warmer weather.

It's not getting worse, but at this rate, we'll have 2 million sometime next week.

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Response to donkeypoofed (Original post)

Wed Jun 3, 2020, 04:40 PM

6. uh, no

This virus is likely to come back each year in some form as the flu does. It's not "over" till we get a vaccine or some good therapeutics.

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Response to jayfish (Reply #7)

Wed Jun 3, 2020, 06:14 PM

26. Dig in a bit.

Take the WI Forbes link. (Picked because ... dunno why.)

Deaths and new positives peaked the same day. Since there's a 2-week lag between "positive" and "deceased" the two can't be related. Both were after a several-day-long dip because of a 3-day weekend, though.

Plus the spikes are just that--very short-term upticks. That kind of fluctuation happens all the time in fairly random data, esp. with small numbers. The peak reported death # is 18. Average is probably around 8 for WI. Most of the panic simply due to noise.

Remember, the #s you see reported today are just the test results or deaths reported today, not the test results or deaths that occurred today.

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Response to Igel (Reply #26)

Wed Jun 3, 2020, 07:35 PM

30. The hospitalizations aren't though, there's no fudging the increase in them week over week. CNBC ...

... shows them in the morning and its clear, infections week over week are going up.

End of June should be telling

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #30)

Wed Jun 3, 2020, 07:41 PM

32. Totally agree. Hospitalizations are increasing.

Pretty soon, deaths will start going back up.

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Response to donkeypoofed (Original post)

Wed Jun 3, 2020, 04:40 PM

8. *We'll have to live with this for a long time.

'Summer is almost here, states are reopening and new coronavirus cases are declining or, at least, holding steady in many parts of the United States. At least 100 scientific teams around the world are racing to develop a vaccine.

Thatís about it for the good news.

The virus has shown no sign of going away: We will be in this pandemic era for the long haul, likely a year or more. The masks, the social distancing, the fretful hand-washing, the aching withdrawal from friends and family ó those steps are still the best hope of staying well, and will be for some time to come.

ďThis virus just may become another endemic virus in our communities, and this virus may never go away,Ē Dr. Mike Ryan, the executive director of the World Health Organizationís health emergencies program, warned last month. Some scientists think that the longer we live with the virus, the milder its effects will become, but that remains to be seen.

Predictions that millions of doses of a vaccine may be available by the end of this year may be too rosy. No vaccine has ever been created that fast.

The disease would be less frightening if there were a treatment that could cure it or, at least, prevent severe illness. But there is not. Remdesivir, the eagerly awaited antiviral drug? ďModestĒ benefit is the highest mark experts give it.

Which brings us back to masks and social distancing, which have come to feel quite antisocial. If only we could go back to life the way it used to be.

We cannot. Not yet.'>>>

https://www.nytimes.com/article/coronavirus-facts-history.html?

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Response to elleng (Reply #8)

Wed Jun 3, 2020, 07:44 PM

33. Florida has been reporting increasing hospitalizations.

Yesterday, it reported the highest number of new infections since sometime in April.

The "going away with summer" claim is bullshit. There are fewer places hotter than Florida has been for the last month.

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Response to donkeypoofed (Original post)

Wed Jun 3, 2020, 04:40 PM

9. No way in hell is COVID19 over. nt

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Response to donkeypoofed (Original post)

Wed Jun 3, 2020, 04:41 PM

10. NO

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Response to donkeypoofed (Original post)

Wed Jun 3, 2020, 04:42 PM

11. The spikes will likely show up in the cities people came in from

many seemed to be from surrounding areas

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Response to donkeypoofed (Original post)

Wed Jun 3, 2020, 04:42 PM

12. There's probably a 2 to 3 week delay before we know how many

have gotten sick enough to be tested or go to the hospital.

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Response to donkeypoofed (Original post)

Wed Jun 3, 2020, 04:42 PM

14. No words.

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Response to donkeypoofed (Original post)

Wed Jun 3, 2020, 04:43 PM

15. I admit, I'll be shocked if our medical system isn't totally overburdened in southern

and some other states by the end of June. But I can tell you here in AZ we are seeing our highest new case numbers since this thing began. In March and April we averaged 150 to 250 new cases a day and we are now up around a thousand new cases a day. 1127 yesterday and nine hundred something today, and higher death totals. It has moved gradually upwards through May. Now AZ is just one state, but I've noticed Florida totals are high and peripatetic.

This prediction isn't based solely on the protests but the Memorial Day opening debacle and some states moving to Stage 2 of the reopening despite climbing case numbers.

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Response to donkeypoofed (Original post)

Wed Jun 3, 2020, 04:44 PM

16. No...

I don't see that. Covid is my no means over. Wishful thinking might induce that idea though.

We have, (thanks to leadership blunders, premature actions, reckless behaviors, etc.) a potentially worse, second wave waiting in Fall and, possibly smaller ones after that. Then it may "peter out".

The current wave is more likely to be exacerbated by ideas of it being over. We will see some big spikes soon, IMHO, that could send us back to square one for not staying consistent and preserving.

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Response to donkeypoofed (Original post)

Wed Jun 3, 2020, 04:44 PM

17. And who even recs this... oh wait. n/t

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Response to demmiblue (Reply #17)

Wed Jun 3, 2020, 04:48 PM

19. LOL

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Response to donkeypoofed (Original post)

Wed Jun 3, 2020, 04:46 PM

18. Viruses have a funny way of not giving a damn...

They do not care about anything because, technically, they are not alive in the first place. They are genetic material with a singular mission - find some cellular mechanisms to hijack and begin making copies of itself.

The virus is being spread right now. The question is to how many people who may never even develop symptoms and how many people who will and how many people THEY will infect as a result.

There is no vaccine.
There is no cure.
There are precious few effective treatments.

There ARE advances in caring for people and in preventing hospital transmission to staff - though that is still as hazardous a job as you can find today...

Remember the equations...TIME x PROXIMITY = Escalating Chance of INFECTION

If you are outdoors, physically separated by at least 3-6 feet and not coughing or sneezing onto, then your risks are fairly low, though NOT zero.

If you are indoors, packed together elbow to elbow and breathing in the same air for hours on end - like at a ballgame or concert or restaurant or bar or even airplanes (though some believe the air exchange in airplane cabins is effective at some mitigation) - then your odds go up for contraction.

COVID-19 is definitely not over though...not even close really...

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Response to Moostache (Reply #18)

Wed Jun 3, 2020, 07:49 PM

35. Sometimes in life people have the misfortune of coming upon things that just

don't give a shit, deadly vipers, cyanide, lightening, deadly viruses.

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Response to donkeypoofed (Original post)

Wed Jun 3, 2020, 04:53 PM

20. Huh?

WTF?

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Response to donkeypoofed (Original post)

Wed Jun 3, 2020, 05:45 PM

21. Sure, but that's not what's going to happen

I'm more interested to see how many who were attending protests and wearing masks, did end up with virus (or didn't). It'd seriously help us to know if the masks are helpful.

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Response to lettucebe (Reply #21)

Wed Jun 3, 2020, 07:55 PM

36. A study has just been published that stated that masks and social distancing

made a difference in infection rates.

An earlier study on the 1918 Virus showed that wearing the shitty mask of that time reduced infection rates by 25%.

Our best hope is the virus ticks down on lethality and not go up like it did for a while in 1918.

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Response to donkeypoofed (Original post)

Wed Jun 3, 2020, 05:49 PM

22. Why would you think it's over when we have thousands new cases each day?

Around 20k each day, and that's without any spikes from protests. I guess math is not your strong suit.

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Response to LisaL (Reply #22)

Wed Jun 3, 2020, 07:59 PM

38. Some people are emotionally worn out and are into wishful thinking.

I went to help one of my brothers today and had to remind him to wear a mask. He has been good about wearing masks in public and when around me (we live in seperate places, so should treat eachother as strangers relative to SARS-COV-2.

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Response to donkeypoofed (Original post)

Wed Jun 3, 2020, 06:09 PM

23. "We" can't, but 'you' can.

I know there are still cases being reported in my county. Still deaths. So I can't call anything almost over.

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Response to donkeypoofed (Original post)

Wed Jun 3, 2020, 06:10 PM

24. 108 thousand gone

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Response to donkeypoofed (Original post)

Wed Jun 3, 2020, 06:14 PM

25. You can call it done. Just don't come near me.

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Response to donkeypoofed (Original post)

Wed Jun 3, 2020, 06:18 PM

27. The stupid - it burns!

Science can help us figure when this is "over", not a two-sentence message board post.

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Response to donkeypoofed (Original post)

Wed Jun 3, 2020, 06:20 PM

28. Ohio has an increase as do other states...not over.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #28)

Wed Jun 3, 2020, 07:22 PM

29. And at least one person with covid attended the protest.

Realistically it was likely a lot more than just one.
So it's about five days later-new cases will likely start popping up soon.
"Columbus Health says the individual was symptomatic on May 27 but still attended the protests."
https://www.nbc4i.com/news/protester-who-took-part-in-downtown-columbus-demonstrations-tests-positive-for-covid-19/

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Response to LisaL (Reply #29)

Thu Jun 4, 2020, 02:14 PM

42. That is so irresponsible.

I think we will have a spike...hope I am wrong...they were outdoors but really close together...sigh.

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Response to donkeypoofed (Original post)

Wed Jun 3, 2020, 07:37 PM

31. The virus is spiking in Florida right now as a result of re-opening. nt

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Response to donkeypoofed (Original post)

Wed Jun 3, 2020, 07:47 PM

34. Yes!!! Do you know why?

Because all the viruses were reading the newspapers and magazines and watching CNN and MS NBC. And they heard the president say that it was over. So they pack their suitcases and left for a different planet.

Disease is like economic difficulty: if your neighbor is laid off itís a recession if youíre laid off itís a Depression. If no one you know is sick and thereís a virus if people you know are sick and itís a problem if you or your family members are sick that is a serious concern. And I donít mean a concern like the senator from Maine gets a concern. When this thing comes roaring back and it is in the process of doing so, all of a sudden itís going to be a big problem. And people will throw up their Hands and say weíre doomed we may as well just let everybody die whoís going to die and such is life. Until of course it hurts their family, in which case itís a catastrophe.

This asshole in the White House has led to a period of unbridled narcissism. Iím going to be obscure and make a Pun of a book title which was a science fiction classic and titled The World of Null-A by A. E. Van Vogt: this is the world of null-A: No Altruism. Sub-Species which do not possess the trait of altruistic behavior tend to become extinct before the others in their Species.

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Response to donkeypoofed (Original post)

Wed Jun 3, 2020, 07:58 PM

37. People are still becoming infected. It's not over.

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Response to donkeypoofed (Original post)

Wed Jun 3, 2020, 08:07 PM

40. It's not over.

It seems many people on the right believe that, and now I keep seeing it here.

Cases are spiking in my hometown (not where I live). And that was before the protests. No one should feel complacent about this virus.

I live in a red area, and I've actually noticed mask wearing is increasing. People know this isn't gone.

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Response to donkeypoofed (Original post)

Wed Jun 3, 2020, 08:15 PM

41. I admire the optimism

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Response to donkeypoofed (Original post)

Thu Jun 4, 2020, 02:18 PM

43. Right now is reopening/ Memorial Day spike

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