If no Covid spike in protest cities soon, then Covid is over

Or at least that’s what I mean when I say Tday

We're still getting 21K new cases a day. The death rate is a bit lower (very likely due to medical personnel figuring out the better ways to treat it), but the infection rate hasn't slowed down with the warmer weather.

It's not getting worse, but at this rate, we'll have 2 million sometime next week.

This virus is likely to come back each year in some form as the flu does. It's not "over" till we get a vaccine or some good therapeutics.

https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/coronavirus/dallas-county-reports-largest-daily-spike-in-covid-19-cases/2380936/
https://www.sltrib.com/news/2020/05/30/utah-sees-another-spike/
https://www.wzzm13.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/covid-19-spike-in-2-counties-due-to-residents-not-following-cdc-guidelines-health-department-says/69-96a056d3-ad92-4a05-b384-dfeddcef85ba
https://www.fox10phoenix.com/video/690796
https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicholasreimann/2020/05/28/wisconsin-sees-coronavirus-spike-2-weeks-after-abrupt-reopening/#64b91ce92a6b
https://www.ajc.com/news/breaking-news/spike-georgia-covid-cases-partly-from-virus-spread-expert-says/ScJKBSS7S4UMhVG60iALxL/

It isn't over.

Take the WI Forbes link. (Picked because ... dunno why.)

Deaths and new positives peaked the same day. Since there's a 2-week lag between "positive" and "deceased" the two can't be related. Both were after a several-day-long dip because of a 3-day weekend, though.

Plus the spikes are just that--very short-term upticks. That kind of fluctuation happens all the time in fairly random data, esp. with small numbers. The peak reported death # is 18. Average is probably around 8 for WI. Most of the panic simply due to noise.

Remember, the #s you see reported today are just the test results or deaths reported today, not the test results or deaths that occurred today.

... shows them in the morning and its clear, infections week over week are going up.

End of June should be telling

Pretty soon, deaths will start going back up.

'Summer is almost here, states are reopening and new coronavirus cases are declining or, at least, holding steady in many parts of the United States. At least 100 scientific teams around the world are racing to develop a vaccine.

That’s about it for the good news.

The virus has shown no sign of going away: We will be in this pandemic era for the long haul, likely a year or more. The masks, the social distancing, the fretful hand-washing, the aching withdrawal from friends and family — those steps are still the best hope of staying well, and will be for some time to come.

“This virus just may become another endemic virus in our communities, and this virus may never go away,” Dr. Mike Ryan, the executive director of the World Health Organization’s health emergencies program, warned last month. Some scientists think that the longer we live with the virus, the milder its effects will become, but that remains to be seen.

Predictions that millions of doses of a vaccine may be available by the end of this year may be too rosy. No vaccine has ever been created that fast.

The disease would be less frightening if there were a treatment that could cure it or, at least, prevent severe illness. But there is not. Remdesivir, the eagerly awaited antiviral drug? “Modest” benefit is the highest mark experts give it.

Which brings us back to masks and social distancing, which have come to feel quite antisocial. If only we could go back to life the way it used to be.

We cannot. Not yet.'>>>

https://www.nytimes.com/article/coronavirus-facts-history.html?

Yesterday, it reported the highest number of new infections since sometime in April.

The "going away with summer" claim is bullshit. There are fewer places hotter than Florida has been for the last month.

many seemed to be from surrounding areas

have gotten sick enough to be tested or go to the hospital.

and some other states by the end of June. But I can tell you here in AZ we are seeing our highest new case numbers since this thing began. In March and April we averaged 150 to 250 new cases a day and we are now up around a thousand new cases a day. 1127 yesterday and nine hundred something today, and higher death totals. It has moved gradually upwards through May. Now AZ is just one state, but I've noticed Florida totals are high and peripatetic.

This prediction isn't based solely on the protests but the Memorial Day opening debacle and some states moving to Stage 2 of the reopening despite climbing case numbers.

I don't see that. Covid is my no means over. Wishful thinking might induce that idea though.

We have, (thanks to leadership blunders, premature actions, reckless behaviors, etc.) a potentially worse, second wave waiting in Fall and, possibly smaller ones after that. Then it may "peter out".

The current wave is more likely to be exacerbated by ideas of it being over. We will see some big spikes soon, IMHO, that could send us back to square one for not staying consistent and preserving.

They do not care about anything because, technically, they are not alive in the first place. They are genetic material with a singular mission - find some cellular mechanisms to hijack and begin making copies of itself.

The virus is being spread right now. The question is to how many people who may never even develop symptoms and how many people who will and how many people THEY will infect as a result.

There is no vaccine.
There is no cure.
There are precious few effective treatments.

There ARE advances in caring for people and in preventing hospital transmission to staff - though that is still as hazardous a job as you can find today...

Remember the equations...TIME x PROXIMITY = Escalating Chance of INFECTION

If you are outdoors, physically separated by at least 3-6 feet and not coughing or sneezing onto, then your risks are fairly low, though NOT zero.

If you are indoors, packed together elbow to elbow and breathing in the same air for hours on end - like at a ballgame or concert or restaurant or bar or even airplanes (though some believe the air exchange in airplane cabins is effective at some mitigation) - then your odds go up for contraction.

COVID-19 is definitely not over though...not even close really...

don't give a shit, deadly vipers, cyanide, lightening, deadly viruses.

WTF?

I'm more interested to see how many who were attending protests and wearing masks, did end up with virus (or didn't). It'd seriously help us to know if the masks are helpful.

made a difference in infection rates.

An earlier study on the 1918 Virus showed that wearing the shitty mask of that time reduced infection rates by 25%.

Our best hope is the virus ticks down on lethality and not go up like it did for a while in 1918.

Around 20k each day, and that's without any spikes from protests. I guess math is not your strong suit.

I went to help one of my brothers today and had to remind him to wear a mask. He has been good about wearing masks in public and when around me (we live in seperate places, so should treat eachother as strangers relative to SARS-COV-2.

I know there are still cases being reported in my county. Still deaths. So I can't call anything almost over.

Science can help us figure when this is "over", not a two-sentence message board post.

Realistically it was likely a lot more than just one.
So it's about five days later-new cases will likely start popping up soon.
"Columbus Health says the individual was symptomatic on May 27 but still attended the protests."
https://www.nbc4i.com/news/protester-who-took-part-in-downtown-columbus-demonstrations-tests-positive-for-covid-19/

I think we will have a spike...hope I am wrong...they were outdoors but really close together...sigh.

Because all the viruses were reading the newspapers and magazines and watching CNN and MS NBC. And they heard the president say that it was over. So they pack their suitcases and left for a different planet.

Disease is like economic difficulty: if your neighbor is laid off it’s a recession if you’re laid off it’s a Depression. If no one you know is sick and there’s a virus if people you know are sick and it’s a problem if you or your family members are sick that is a serious concern. And I don’t mean a concern like the senator from Maine gets a concern. When this thing comes roaring back and it is in the process of doing so, all of a sudden it’s going to be a big problem. And people will throw up their Hands and say we’re doomed we may as well just let everybody die who’s going to die and such is life. Until of course it hurts their family, in which case it’s a catastrophe.

This asshole in the White House has led to a period of unbridled narcissism. I’m going to be obscure and make a Pun of a book title which was a science fiction classic and titled The World of Null-A by A. E. Van Vogt: this is the world of null-A: No Altruism. Sub-Species which do not possess the trait of altruistic behavior tend to become extinct before the others in their Species.

It seems many people on the right believe that, and now I keep seeing it here.

Cases are spiking in my hometown (not where I live). And that was before the protests. No one should feel complacent about this virus.

I live in a red area, and I've actually noticed mask wearing is increasing. People know this isn't gone.