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He has gone full Putin (Original Post) orangecrush Jun 2020 OP
Except he's NOT Putin. MoonRiver Jun 2020 #1
And The US is NOT Russia! Skraxx Jun 2020 #3
Exactly! MoonRiver Jun 2020 #18
I don't know bdamomma Jun 2020 #23
Damn, I wish I shared your optimism. CrispyQ Jun 2020 #5
When he loses the election, that Pig is going to try something maybe anything to stay in power. Thomas Hurt Jun 2020 #6
problem is... he isn't smart enough to realize that lapfog_1 Jun 2020 #8
He's more like Yanukovych. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2020 #9
This is some bigly shit orangecrush Jun 2020 #15
Russian propagandists have been hip to stoking racial strife for quite a while. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2020 #17
That's the m.o. orangecrush Jun 2020 #20
Putin bdamomma Jun 2020 #24
Yes. orangecrush Jun 2020 #25
THIS malaise Jun 2020 #21
He is a fucking coward, Don't let him fool you. shockey80 Jun 2020 #2
Nah. He's a terrified little scared shitless weasel. SoonerPride Jun 2020 #4
And he is in the White House orangecrush Jun 2020 #16
Five countries being destroyed by an autocrat SCantiGOP Jun 2020 #7
100% TRUE orangecrush Jun 2020 #13
These kinds hide behind lies and deceit: Newest Reality Jun 2020 #10
I don't know the answer, but I do know I'm scared for all of us. kickitup Jun 2020 #11
Hillary was right , he is putins puppet duforsure Jun 2020 #12
Precisely orangecrush Jun 2020 #14
He's always been Putin minus the competence and 60 IQ points nt Azathoth Jun 2020 #19
Trump & Putin are just like TWINS TheBlackAdder Jun 2020 #22

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
1. Except he's NOT Putin.
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 12:12 PM
Jun 2020

He doesn't have the muscle: intellectual, physical or political to pull off a coup. He's a desperate little man, who will soon be facing a devastating array of federal and state charges.

Skraxx

(2,970 posts)
3. And The US is NOT Russia!
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 12:14 PM
Jun 2020

Putin may have an unpleasant surprise at how his tactics go over in the US.

bdamomma

(63,845 posts)
23. I don't know
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 10:09 PM
Jun 2020

about that, Putin is spreading his poison all over and now we are out of the picture on the world stage he is an antagonist.

CrispyQ

(36,461 posts)
5. Damn, I wish I shared your optimism.
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 12:15 PM
Jun 2020

I agree he's no Putin, but he's gotten away with everything so far. I hope someone has a plan.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
6. When he loses the election, that Pig is going to try something maybe anything to stay in power.
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 12:16 PM
Jun 2020

If the GoP can't throw the election through their usual malfeasance, he is going blame, incite and sue to stay in office.

He won't get away with it, but you watch he will try.

lapfog_1

(29,199 posts)
8. problem is... he isn't smart enough to realize that
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 12:20 PM
Jun 2020

and might try anyway.

He has the backing of enough racist idiots to cause a lot of harm on his way to oblivion.

orangecrush

(19,546 posts)
15. This is some bigly shit
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 01:43 PM
Jun 2020

He is fortifying the White House because he has zero intention of leaving when he is voted out.

The peaceful protesters are not being covered.

The rioting is getting 24/7 coverage.

The effect is to scare the piss out of red state voters, ensuring their turnout and aporoval of whatever illegal methods Trump uses for repression - at frirst in the streets, and later against Democrats

There was a sudden spike in racial tensions leading up to the 2016 election, as you may remember.

The current chain of events is, imo, no coincidence or accident.


From Alexsandr Dugin, "Putin's Rasputin" -

"In the United States:

Russia should use its special services within the borders of the United States to fuel instability and separatism, for instance, provoke "Afro-American racists". Russia should "introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics".[9]"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics#:~:text=The%20Foundations%20of%20Geopolitics%3A%20The%20Geopolitical%20Future%20of%20Russia%20is,Staff%20of%20the%20Russian%20military.

Which is EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE SEEING!!!!!!

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,181 posts)
17. Russian propagandists have been hip to stoking racial strife for quite a while.
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 02:04 PM
Jun 2020

Kremlin propagandist Konstantin Rykov--who claims to have run an operation out of Russia to get Trump elected in 2016--briefly set up a US based Twitter account devoted almost solely to the protests surrounding Michael Brown's killing in 2014.

https://twitter.com/rykov_usa

It's a measure to gain a captive audience, I think. And can play to both sides if necessary to get double the effect.

orangecrush

(19,546 posts)
20. That's the m.o.
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 09:46 PM
Jun 2020

Create chaos.

Play opposing sides off each other, destabilize the center.

They are getting help from some someone here high in financial circles.

The Mercers are my first guess.

You saw through the bullshit from day one.


bdamomma

(63,845 posts)
24. Putin
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 10:13 PM
Jun 2020

saw the discontent among the American public and it was ripe for the picking he got his puppet and here we are.

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
4. Nah. He's a terrified little scared shitless weasel.
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 12:15 PM
Jun 2020

He is losing BADLY and each move makes him look weaker and more frantic.

He knows he is going to lose.

He is terrified.

SCantiGOP

(13,869 posts)
7. Five countries being destroyed by an autocrat
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 12:17 PM
Jun 2020

US
Russia
Turkey
Brazil
India

All five are still democracies and can be saved if their countries wake up and use the ballot box to overthrow their despots.

The virus and riot news are pushing everything else out of the news cycle.

orangecrush

(19,546 posts)
13. 100% TRUE
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 01:24 PM
Jun 2020

The peaceful protesters are not being covered 24/7.

The rioters are!

The intended effect is imo, to scare the living shit out of red state voters, guaranteeing I their turnout, and support for whatever illegal and repressive tactics Trump employs.

I live in a rural area, and can tell you from what I see here, it's fucking working like a charm.

The end goal is full, unfettered autocratic power.

Similar to the "businessman's plot" against Roosevelt, but with megabucks behind it from many sources, including Russia.

The progression of events we are seeing is neither accidental or coincidence.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
10. These kinds hide behind lies and deceit:
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 12:23 PM
Jun 2020

Cowards. His Depends would be soiled if he found himself out in the crowd right now.



kickitup

(355 posts)
11. I don't know the answer, but I do know I'm scared for all of us.
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 12:29 PM
Jun 2020

I am scared for the people of this country. I think he plans to do something terrible and that is why he is fortifying the White House. I have never felt this way before in my life about my government. Maybe that comes from a place of privilege and if it does, I don't mean to discredit the struggles of any other person. I literally said to my neighbor, "What in this world is going to happen to all of us?" Then I think I'm crazy for thinking things like that.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
12. Hillary was right , he is putins puppet
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 12:34 PM
Jun 2020

Watch , soon he'll be declaring or demanding all sanctions against him be lifted. After watching and hearing trump and the GOP promote russian propaganda knowingly about Ukraine for putin shows trumps loyalty is to him , not to us. All while claiming he wants to make America great again BS. That's why he is fighting so hard to hide his taxes, he's been criminally involved with putin , and his russian friends, and many others.

orangecrush

(19,546 posts)
14. Precisely
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 01:27 PM
Jun 2020

Action needs to be taken by Democrats.

This is not a drill.

Pull the gloves off, or be beaten to the ground.

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