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fleur-de-lisa

(14,628 posts)
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 12:17 PM Jun 2020

Lisa Murkowski (R-AK) says she's struggling with the question of whether to support Trump in 2020

Andrew Desiderio ✔@AndrewDesiderio (Politico)

Extraordinary comments just now from Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) who tells us Mattis’ words were “true, honest, necessary and overdue.” Says she’s struggling with the question of whether to support Trump in 2020.

“Perhaps we're getting to the point where we can be more honest with the concerns that we might hold internally, and have the courage of our own convictions to speak up,” Murkowski tells us.


11:01 AM - Jun 4, 2020




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Lisa Murkowski (R-AK) says she's struggling with the question of whether to support Trump in 2020 (Original Post) fleur-de-lisa Jun 2020 OP
It will be an eternal struggle dalton99a Jun 2020 #1
If only she had a crystal ball. nt Hortensis Jun 2020 #2
What is it with these feckless, spineless, goddamned wimps in the republican party? SoonerPride Jun 2020 #3
They are more concerned with SoCalNative Jun 2020 #13
Sheer Insanity Me. Jun 2020 #4
If she is still "struggling" at this point... kentuck Jun 2020 #5
I can't imagine having that kind of "struggle." essme Jun 2020 #6
If even rMoney or anyone prominent stepped forward Wednesdays Jun 2020 #65
True essme Jun 2020 #78
If You Are Pure Evil Through And Through You Support Trump DanieRains Jun 2020 #7
She is struggling Collins is concerned pwb Jun 2020 #8
Totally Construggled Zambero Jun 2020 #27
Perfect MLAA Jun 2020 #42
Excellent. She should be encouraged to bring others along elleng Jun 2020 #9
True, and Instead of some who cathartically want to condemn her, perhaps encouraging her to bring still_one Jun 2020 #40
Yes. There's too much condemning of her happening, elleng Jun 2020 #46
I suspect some may confuse "encouragement" with supporting Murkowski in an election, still_one Jun 2020 #58
always been one to support (and encourage) stopdiggin Jun 2020 #67
I am not here to defend Murkowski, though she has voted with Democrats on various still_one Jun 2020 #75
and I agree with you about encouraging the same stopdiggin Jun 2020 #76
well said still_one Jun 2020 #77
+1 obamanut2012 Jun 2020 #66
What's there to struggle about? The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2020 #10
She is a republican after all, but even her "concern" does undercut trump, and that is a good still_one Jun 2020 #45
Yes, 'concern' is a good thing, MUST be encouraged. elleng Jun 2020 #47
LOL! "Perhaps, maybe, sorta I might sorta say something maybe at some point I dunno, I'm so concern. Skraxx Jun 2020 #11
That's what qualifies as "extraordinary" nowadays? gratuitous Jun 2020 #12
FOLKS, THIS IS THE TIME for us ALL to encourage such, elleng Jun 2020 #14
Do you think that she reads DU and will be discouraged by our posting? Crunchy Frog Jun 2020 #68
"Perhaps we're getting to the point where we can be more honest..." thucythucy Jun 2020 #15
+1. They all knew what he was and what he was capable of dalton99a Jun 2020 #24
It's all about the judges genxlib Jun 2020 #16
Exactly. Crunchy Frog Jun 2020 #70
Yes, honesty is long overdue Zambero Jun 2020 #17
"Struggling" eh? But is she CONCERNED? yellowcanine Jun 2020 #18
Struggling? That is weak, not extraordinary. Caliman73 Jun 2020 #19
If it's a struggle, maybe the problem is you, Lisa. C_U_L8R Jun 2020 #20
Today. idziak4ever1234 Jun 2020 #21
Fuck her!!! If you even have to "think" about gopiscrap Jun 2020 #22
If it is a struggle, you are losing Maeve Jun 2020 #23
Extraordinary? Really??? ananda Jun 2020 #25
She and Susan Collins. LakeArenal Jun 2020 #26
If after witnessing all this criminal has done , and played a part in, duforsure Jun 2020 #28
Let's see: Susan concerns and Lisa struggles. Polly Hennessey Jun 2020 #29
Tough decision, should I continue to follow a lunatic that is destroying the country or shockey80 Jun 2020 #30
Sorry if this has been posted already, grumpyduck Jun 2020 #31
She had a chance to demonstrate integrity and failed to do so. NNadir Jun 2020 #32
Trump will throw AK a barrel of $$$, then she'll fall back in line. TheCowsCameHome Jun 2020 #33
Isn't she on a fresh term? BannonsLiver Jun 2020 #34
She's up for reelection in 2022 leftieNanner Jun 2020 #38
Remember Murkowski's SHAME....She voted NO to Convict.... ProudMNDemocrat Jun 2020 #35
Give the lady some credit philf99 Jun 2020 #36
No, she hasn't earned it. Things have gotten so necrotic that she has to say something . . . . hatrack Jun 2020 #72
supporting a psychopath for president shouldn't be something anybody should "struggle with." jorgevlorgan Jun 2020 #37
Struggling? Snort Solly Mack Jun 2020 #39
Stop struggling and step into the light. The choice couldn't be more clear. fishwax Jun 2020 #41
Here We Go Again.... global1 Jun 2020 #43
Who is she kidding... SidDithers Jun 2020 #44
Yeah, well........... blueinredohio Jun 2020 #48
It's too late ibegurpard Jun 2020 #49
She was chosen to be the trial balloon, I bet obamanut2012 Jun 2020 #50
She's reached 3 Susans and half a Romney concern level maxrandb Jun 2020 #51
Funny...but True!! lucca18 Jun 2020 #61
Some Biohazard Level 4 brow-furrowing coming soon! hatrack Jun 2020 #52
Asha Rangappa says this means she might have violated her oath as a juror: Qutzupalotl Jun 2020 #53
Must we publish a Handbook for the Struggling & Concerned delisen Jun 2020 #56
Her concern will send a strong message to Donnie Dollhands maxrandb Jun 2020 #54
Oh to hell with her and to hell with all the Beltway press that keep indulging this game Maven Jun 2020 #55
I question the judgement of anyone who is still struggling with that decision Sapient Donkey Jun 2020 #57
Struggling? It should should be a slam dunk. demosincebirth Jun 2020 #59
Don't worry, she'll eventually come around to supporting him. Bleacher Creature Jun 2020 #60
AFFS gibraltar72 Jun 2020 #62
Wow. She took Mattis' words seriously and she's still "struggling with the question"? Crunchy Frog Jun 2020 #63
"we're getting to the point where we can be honest and have courage"? jcgoldie Jun 2020 #64
Of course she is... Wounded Bear Jun 2020 #69
Where does that fit on the "concern" scale? tandem5 Jun 2020 #71
She is quite possibly the most useless human to have ever existed. Downtown Hound Jun 2020 #73
Honestly, if you are still struggling.... Happy Hoosier Jun 2020 #74
The fact that it's even a struggle does not reflect well on her. 11 Bravo Jun 2020 #79
+1 demmiblue Jun 2020 #80
The struggle is real... budkin Jun 2020 #81
"Is it Trump? Or is it the people around him? Or is it all a mirage? It's sooo confusing!" struggle4progress Jun 2020 #82

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
3. What is it with these feckless, spineless, goddamned wimps in the republican party?
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 12:19 PM
Jun 2020

GROW A FUCKING SPINE.

I am so over their "concerns" and equivocations.

Come out loudly and forcefully and say h is a madman and moron and under no circumstances should any sentient being vote for this insanity.

essme

(1,207 posts)
6. I can't imagine having that kind of "struggle."
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 12:20 PM
Jun 2020

If I were Republicans I would be on the phone begging and pleading for Mitt Romney, or anyone----flipping ANYONE to replace him on the ticket.

Wednesdays

(17,462 posts)
65. If even rMoney or anyone prominent stepped forward
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 01:45 PM
Jun 2020

to replace pendejo45 on the ticket, the only way to make that happen would be open rebellion on the convention floor.

Ain't gonna happen.

 

DanieRains

(4,619 posts)
7. If You Are Pure Evil Through And Through You Support Trump
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 12:20 PM
Jun 2020

It's not that complicated.

Steve Schmidt said it. This election will be good versus evil.

Zambero

(8,978 posts)
27. Totally Construggled
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 12:25 PM
Jun 2020

A newly-minted term from the Collins-Murkowski comprehensive desktop dictionary of real shit and other useful words.

still_one

(92,492 posts)
40. True, and Instead of some who cathartically want to condemn her, perhaps encouraging her to bring
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 12:42 PM
Jun 2020

the few other republicans to consider the damage they have wrought upon this country might be more beneficial to helping remove the jackass in the WH



still_one

(92,492 posts)
58. I suspect some may confuse "encouragement" with supporting Murkowski in an election,
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 01:22 PM
Jun 2020

and it isn't the same thing

stopdiggin

(11,404 posts)
67. always been one to support (and encourage)
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 01:46 PM
Jun 2020

ANY movement or sign of life from across the aisle. And thus Murkowski, Mattias, Romney are more than welcome. At the same time .. I think it's perfectly valid to point out that "it needed to come to this ..?" There was nothing in Mueller, in Comey, in Ukraine, in Justice and intelligence purges, in Impeachment trials .. prior to this .. that created a light bulb moment?

So I think those that are playing a little heavy on the "Oh, Really?" sarcasm card .. also have every right. Show me where Sen. Murkowski really differs in any substantive way from Graham or Sessions. And assure me that all three won't be dutifully hauling water for the same man a month from now.
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still_one

(92,492 posts)
75. I am not here to defend Murkowski, though she has voted with Democrats on various
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 02:07 PM
Jun 2020

issues related to healthcare, especially women's healthcare.

If she is making statements against trump, that is a good thing. It doesn't mean I agree with her conservative politics, but brings division among the republicans


stopdiggin

(11,404 posts)
76. and I agree with you about encouraging the same
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 02:17 PM
Jun 2020

and any other signs of dissent, or "sanity," from across the aisle!

(and still reserve my concern .. buttressed by long experience .. that she and the rest will be safely back in the "fold" .. come convention time. which is not to say I won't take what help I can get today.)

still_one

(92,492 posts)
45. She is a republican after all, but even her "concern" does undercut trump, and that is a good
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 12:44 PM
Jun 2020

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gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
12. That's what qualifies as "extraordinary" nowadays?
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 12:21 PM
Jun 2020

These fuckers are going to be dragged kicking and screaming into facing their complicity with this outlaw regime. You had your chance to do something about this back in February, Senator. You dropped the ball, and despite the warnings from millions of citizens of what was going to ensue when you and the rest of the Senate Republican caucus let Trump off the hook, you went ahead and voted for acquittal anyway. You've already declared your support for Trump in 2020.

thucythucy

(8,109 posts)
15. "Perhaps we're getting to the point where we can be more honest..."
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 12:22 PM
Jun 2020

Which right there is an admission she's been lying all along about her thoughts about Trump.

In other words, she KNEW he was a gutless wonder and a pox on the nation, but was too chicken shit to honor her oath and say anything out loud.

What a profile in courage.

dalton99a

(81,671 posts)
24. +1. They all knew what he was and what he was capable of
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 12:24 PM
Jun 2020

Heck, they called him every name in the book - and then they nominated him to be president - and then they refused to remove him




genxlib

(5,547 posts)
16. It's all about the judges
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 12:22 PM
Jun 2020

They don't care one shit about any other outcomes as long as he keeps sending the right wing judges over for approval.

Caliman73

(11,760 posts)
19. Struggling? That is weak, not extraordinary.
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 12:23 PM
Jun 2020

If she is still "struggling" after all of what he has done, especially in the last 6 months, then she is not a leader. She is a sheep struggling as to whether to support the wolf for office.

gopiscrap

(23,766 posts)
22. Fuck her!!! If you even have to "think" about
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 12:24 PM
Jun 2020

supporting that orange shitgibbon then you're either an idiot, drank too much of the koolaid or a tool

Maeve

(42,305 posts)
23. If it is a struggle, you are losing
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 12:24 PM
Jun 2020

Grow a brain, a heart or a spine and come to the American side, Lisa

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
28. If after witnessing all this criminal has done , and played a part in,
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 12:25 PM
Jun 2020

If you're still questioning if you will support this monster, you should not be holding any office in our Government. She's admitting she is incapable of performing her duties, and did so letting this criminal off in the Senate , and has helped cause the disasters from his actions that are destroying this country now. Vote her out people.

 

shockey80

(4,379 posts)
30. Tough decision, should I continue to follow a lunatic that is destroying the country or
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 12:27 PM
Jun 2020

should I do the right thing? Idiot.

grumpyduck

(6,278 posts)
31. Sorry if this has been posted already,
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 12:28 PM
Jun 2020

but I think she's just smelling the wind. Wants to see what her constituents have to say.

After all, it's just about staying in office.

NNadir

(33,582 posts)
32. She had a chance to demonstrate integrity and failed to do so.
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 12:28 PM
Jun 2020

She is a collaborator in the assault on America, pure and simple.

leftieNanner

(15,190 posts)
38. She's up for reelection in 2022
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 12:37 PM
Jun 2020

She has plenty of time to make nice before then. She needs to be brave (yeah, right) NOW and speak the truth.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,849 posts)
35. Remember Murkowski's SHAME....She voted NO to Convict....
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 12:28 PM
Jun 2020

Lisa Murkowski is a HYPOCRITE.

She has voted for Trump's Judicial nomimees. She can be conflicted all she wants to be. She voted NO to convict Trump in the Senate for his abuse of his office and how he is conducting himself even now.

philf99

(238 posts)
36. Give the lady some credit
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 12:31 PM
Jun 2020

I know many will not agree with me but she is making a principal stance. And at a time many Republicans are fearful to do what they know is right. Give her some credit

hatrack

(59,599 posts)
72. No, she hasn't earned it. Things have gotten so necrotic that she has to say something . . . .
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 01:58 PM
Jun 2020

But words are not actions, and actions are what was called for four months ago, and she didn't deliver.

If the patient has active tetanus, a doctor doesn't stand by the bedside and talk about how "troubling" the symptoms are. A doctor administers immunoglobulin and antibiotics and whatever other treatments are necessary.

Unless, of course, they were never a doctor in the first place.

jorgevlorgan

(8,347 posts)
37. supporting a psychopath for president shouldn't be something anybody should "struggle with."
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 12:32 PM
Jun 2020

But it sounds like this might be a journey she's heading on the right path down. Let's just hope she doesn't stall or turn around, cause that would just make her look stupid.

Solly Mack

(90,795 posts)
39. Struggling? Snort
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 12:40 PM
Jun 2020

If you have to struggle over something so glaringly obvious then what the fuck is wrong with you?

fishwax

(29,149 posts)
41. Stop struggling and step into the light. The choice couldn't be more clear.
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 12:42 PM
Jun 2020

“Perhaps we're getting to the point where we can be more honest with the concerns that we might hold internally, and have the courage of our own convictions to speak up,” Murkowski tells us.

I'm not gonna hold my breath, but yes, that would certainly be appropriate.

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
49. It's too late
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 12:53 PM
Jun 2020

While i welcome anyone joining the chorus against him the time to hold him accountable was impeachment. She failed. Republicans created him and Republicans have continued to support him no matter what lines he crosses. We have a Republican problem not a Trump problem.

maxrandb

(15,378 posts)
51. She's reached 3 Susans and half a Romney concern level
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 01:08 PM
Jun 2020

If she hits concern level 4 she can use a "tsk-tsk"

Maven

(10,533 posts)
55. Oh to hell with her and to hell with all the Beltway press that keep indulging this game
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 01:11 PM
Jun 2020

by Murkowski, Collins and others.

No, Andrew, there is nothing "extraordinary" about this statement. It's the same noncommittal mush that Murkowski always dribbles out of both sides of her mouth and you fall for it repeatedly. There are people out there, right now, showing real courage. Putting their bodies on the line for what is right. But a U.S. Senator "struggling" with the question of whether to support a dictator is extraordinary?

She had a chance to act during impeachment and she FAILED. Got that? She ALREADY FAILED to protect the Constitution. I really don't give a good goddamn that she's now "struggling" when our democracy is on life support and the power just went out.

Either take a stand publicly, Lisa, or STFU and continue to be complicit.

Sapient Donkey

(1,568 posts)
57. I question the judgement of anyone who is still struggling with that decision
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 01:18 PM
Jun 2020

Of course it's better late than never, but come on. This should be an easy one. Don't support him.

Bleacher Creature

(11,258 posts)
60. Don't worry, she'll eventually come around to supporting him.
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 01:27 PM
Jun 2020

And she'll use this fake time of reflection as a symbol of her so-called independence.

Crunchy Frog

(26,698 posts)
63. Wow. She took Mattis' words seriously and she's still "struggling with the question"?
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 01:40 PM
Jun 2020

Now that's a profile in courage!

jcgoldie

(11,656 posts)
64. "we're getting to the point where we can be honest and have courage"?
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 01:42 PM
Jun 2020

Pretty sure that sentence is all you need to know about Murkowski... its been a LONG road but we've almost made it to basic human decency!

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