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Kaitlan Collins
@kaitlancollins
John Kelly on Trump's tweets claiming he fired Mattis:
The president did not fire him. He did not ask for his resignation. The president has clearly forgotten how it actually happened or is confused
leftieNanner
(15,074 posts)brooklynite
(94,452 posts)thucythucy
(8,043 posts)That's the third and most likely option.
sinkingfeeling
(51,443 posts)SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)Why all the deference and excuse making?
Hes forgotten
Hes confused
No. Fuck that.
He is a goddamned liar. Full stop.
GusBob
(7,286 posts)Mattis retires " with distinction"
grumpyduck
(6,231 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,656 posts)His Lardship also forgets that he was the one who hired Mattis in the first place, praised him lavishly and loved his nickname, "Mad Dog," which Trump didn't give him - another lie - but which Mattis has had (and hasn't liked) since about 2004. Funny how Trump hires all the best people and loves and praises them - as long as they praise him. The minute they stray, they become horrible, incompetent people.
ScratchCat
(1,977 posts)is done with Trump. Maybe his suggestion to use them to combat unarmed American citizens was the last straw for the brass?
The likelihood that Trump exits the WH before November is growing stronger by the day.
sop
(10,137 posts)ScratchCat
(1,977 posts)that Trump's presence has a good chance of causing significant "down ballot harm", do they drop him. I say this because the GOP didn't expect him to win and actually likes "playing defense" better than trying to govern - so it it was just Trump losing, that's one thing. If a dozen Senators and several Governors are looking at defeat, that is a much larger problem.
sop
(10,137 posts)erronis
(15,216 posts)There is a lot of money going to different groups that can disrupt normal US governance.
One of those disruptive groups is, of course, the (r)epuglicons. Federal, state, and probably local.
The figurehead for disruption is djt who is no more a repuglicon than a thinking/caring human.
We all know about other disruptives such as the NRA, the Federalist Society, K-Street brown-nosers.
Question is: Where does this money come from?
- Rich US donors? Citizens who hate the country since it started taking care of its people?
- Non-national capitalists who couldn't care if a country collapses or not since they'll profit?
- State-sponsored interference with the ability to control money flows and have an enmity to the US?
sop
(10,137 posts)Trump trashed so many of his former administration officials on the way out, I'm sure many of them have been waiting for this moment for quite some time.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,157 posts)Not before his time with Trump, during his time with Trump, or after Trump. He proved himself to be a shameless opportunist on more than one occasion.
However, notwithstanding that--I don't doubt him when it comes this issue.
I think he knows a whole hell of a lot about the bodies that are buried when it comes to Trump.
erronis
(15,216 posts)I do not like John Kelly.
I do not like him one bit.
I do not like him before Trump.
I do not like him after Trump.
But I will accept his word when he talks about this,
Because he can help find the skeletons that exist
that have been buried by these mobists.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,157 posts)jayfish
(10,038 posts)Until current members of the administration comes out against Trump publicly and then resign this means jack squat.
agingdem
(7,827 posts)Kelly and Mattis playing a game of CYA...each was complicit...don't forget John Kelly may have spent his tenure face-planting but he was very much on board with babies in cages, a border wall, the Muslim ban.....how did these two supposedly distinguished military men not get that working for this depraved sociopath would end in disaster?..at this juncture their "no way did we ever support trump's lunacy" is bullshit
stopdiggin
(11,285 posts)In fact .. with pretty much everything you've said.
Shameless opportunists (and military command is certainly not immune) with little real regard for either their troops, or their country (IMO)
But people are great at rationalizing their own motivations and interests ...
Having said that .. even at this very late juncture .. I'll take anyone who is willing to come forward and tell what they know. Even if I'm holding my nose while doing it.
MyOwnPeace
(16,923 posts)You're BOTH right (it's two, two, two brains in one) ((Sorry, Wrigley!)).
They were both quite content to ride their "Rose Bowl Float" into the White House and accept whatever job BunkerBoy offered them - only to find out that they were being used for their title and history in service. At that point it seems that they were working to use their position to try to have some input into the "correct" way to achieve "the mission" - as they understood it to be.
Unfortunately, like so many others, they realized only too late that they were serving under a fool - a "volcano," as it were, who would just spew shit on anybody and everybody, no matter who and where you were.
Like SO many others, they get in line and tell tales about how BunkerBoy screwed them over - along with the United States of America.
Yes, ALL testimony against BunkerBoy helps, but the true mission must be to GET OUT THE VOTE! This time it matters (yeah, I know, it did last time too - but complacency set in and who would have EVER thought............).
Renew Deal
(81,851 posts)He lied about that too
Caliman73
(11,726 posts)Mad Dog was the name given by the Marines under his command, and it is considered a good thing even if Mattis didn't like it. The other name Chaos, was Mattis' call sign during Operation Iraqi Freedom, also not a pejorative.
Trump is usually ignorant of information, and he doesn't care.
SamKnause
(13,091 posts)He is an EVIL fucking LIAR and con man.
PJMcK
(22,022 posts)He can never be forgiven for his comments about Congreswoman, Frederica Wilson.
He said, "A congresswoman stood up, and in a long tradition of empty barrels making the most noise, stood up there in all of that and talked about how she was instrumental in getting the funding for that building."
He was wrong on the facts and his racism shone brightly. Of course, he never apologized.
but of course he jumped at the chance to work for the biggest stinking pile that has ever held office.
Tells ya' somethin' right there ...
Sogo
(4,986 posts)Then the others follow....
fishwax
(29,149 posts)mnmoderatedem
(3,722 posts)rump forced him to leave earlier than his designated leave date. rump probably references this to rationalize this latest lie of his.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,986 posts)Grins
(7,203 posts)...is not confused nor forgotten .
It is LIAR!
You are welcome.
JGug1
(320 posts)Kelly left out the third option that Trump is lying. Of course, it isn't really a lie because Trump believes what he is saying.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)He's a GD LIAR!
iluvtennis
(19,843 posts)years. Where are we at 18,000 lies and counting since January 2017.
cannabis_flower
(3,764 posts)he's lying!
Cha
(297,029 posts)Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)Take off the gloves and then start punching.
These lightweight jabs at Trump only set him up to spike it back.
Hit him where it hurts. Lead us to the bodies. Drip. Drip. Drip.
Otherwise, you were a part of the problem and continue to be so.