Derek Chauvin's interaction with a new mom with 2 month old in car

[Demovictory9]

WASHINGTON — In August 2007, Melissa Borton was returning to her Minneapolis home to unpack groceries after a trip to Rainbow Foods with her 2-month-old child and 5-year-old German shepherd.

As the then-30-year-old turned her green minivan left into an intersection, she saw flashing blue and red lights behind her. She was confused. She didn’t think she had disobeyed any laws.

Borton stopped her van and rolled down her window in anticipation of interacting with the two approaching policemen. One was Derek Chauvin, the officer who would be charged this month with manslaughter and second-degree murder for the killing of George Floyd, which sparked national outrage and protests against systemic racism.

Chauvin and an unnamed officer “without a word” reached inside her car, unlocked the door and began pulling her out while she was still strapped in, Borton recalled in an interview with The Times.

“They fumbled with my seat belt and dragged me away,” Borton said. “They didn’t say anything to me this entire time.”

An attorney for Chauvin did not respond to a request for comment. The Minneapolis Police Department would not provide the name of the second officer.

As Borton was being pulled from her vehicle, she remembers hearing her “hysterical” crying newborn and barking dog. The officers put her in the back seat of their squad car. While there, she asked the officers why she was being detained. She recalls one saying her van “matched a description.”

As she sat there, the front of her gray T-shirt began to get soaked with breast milk.

“You probably have postpartum depression,” she recalled an officer saying. “You should get help for that.”

After about 15 minutes, they let her go without further explanation.

The next day, Borton lodged a formal complaint with the Minneapolis Police Department.

Weeks went by, but she never heard back.

More than six months later, she took it upon herself to call the department to ask about the status of the complaint. They confirmed that an officer had been disciplined but declined to provide further details, according to Borton.

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Borton, who is white, said the episode gave her a very small glimpse into how many black Americans feel about police.

“I’m not a black person,” Borton said. “But on a very minuscule level, I get that you can’t trust police.”

Borton, now 43 and still a Minneapolis resident, said she tells the story of this interaction to people whenever the topic of Minneapolis police comes up.

“There’s something wrong with the police around here,” she said. Borton said her story shows a “long history of an officer who’s unhinged and probably shouldn’t have been on the force.”

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2020-06-04/woman-recalls-minneapolis-officer-derek-chauvin-2007-traffic-stop

[grumpyduck]

1. I totally hope

that asshole is sent to prison and three big Afro-American prisoners kneel on his back and neck. He'll probably shit his pants right then and there.

[demigoddess]

2. amen.

[SiliconValley_Dem]

13. i hope you are being sarcastic

[Yeehah]

8. Well, if you're wishing for a revenge murder...

you're not much better than Chauvin.

[grumpyduck]

15. You don't know diddly-shit about me, pal, so don't compare me to that prick.

[Yeehah]

31. Be the change that you want to see in the world

Somebody smarter than me once said.

[Hav]

43. Nah, fuck that

Nothing wrong about killers getting their justice.

[llashram]

46. I just hope

he ends up in gen. pop. That's all.

[JonLP24]

58. I agree

Prisons are in badly need of reform. What happens in prison I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.

Also rape isn't cool no matter who it is and it is usually the most vulnerable prisoners that are victims of it.

[safeinOhio]

17. Cops are not put in general population in jail...

they are put with the child molesters and the insane.

[iluvtennis]

24. + agree. want his ass to suffer. he murdered Geroge Floyd- for 8 mins & 46 secs he had his knee on

his neck.

[Nasruddin]

28. And another thing

That's totally screwed up in this country is the prison system, where behavior like as described, and worse, is allowed and expected.

[OverBurn]

52. yes, but don't kill him, just enough he thinks he is gonna die, repeat next day, and the next.....

[secondwind]

56. I want him to be their bitch every night for years.

He deserves nothing less.

[Master_Monstruwacan]

60. Are you suggesting

that he deserves to be raped in prison? He's a lowlife, but that's disgusting.

[Eyeball_Kid]

62. Chauvin must be kept from society for the long term. He's been cruel to people in the long term.

I can understand the revenge motive for wishing Chauvin receive the same treatment he meted out, for years and years. He felt empowered enough to kill a black man and think nothing of it. A lifetime in prison is enough to keep him away from society. That should be the goal. Execution through capital punishment won't bring Floyd back. It won't compensate for the loss of life and the loss to Floyd's family and friends. Instead, let Floyd's family know, every day of their lives, that his murderer is sitting in a jail cell going through a slow, agonizing death by seclusion. There is no rehabilitation, no "lesson learned" for Chauvin. He's finished. And the justice he receives will NEVER be enough to compensate for the pain, suffering, and loss he inflicted on Floyd and everyone else.

[pnwest]

4. Jesus Christ that's scary. I don't think I could

contain my rage if that happened to me, in that way.

[Hortensis]

9. You could because you'd just have to. Or have your

newborn taken to an institution while you were jailed and perhaps prosecuted for whatever "crime(s)" you were charged with.

Our son was attacked while dancing with his girlfriend by an off-duty policeman working as a guard with probably a longer record of violent abuses than Chauvin, including brutalizing his police-officer wife. Supposedly the guard mistook him for someone he'd been called to deal with, or couldn't find that person and just wanted to attack someone. Our son required ER and eye surgeon care, and weeks of healing to restore vision in one eye from being thrown into a glass cabinet.

When he tried to file a formal complaint against the officer he was threatened with trumped-up charges that could result in potentially 17 years in prison. THIS in a southern state where juries routinely rubber-stamp whatever the DA asks them to; and where, as his attorney, who represented the wife and two other people attacked by this officer, counseled him, proceeding to court would be genuinely dangerous.

He was white also, a successful business owner with no record and with witnesses to both parts and the whole of the encounter.

[Crunchy Frog]

55. They're like fucking rabid animals.

A few bad apples my ass.

I'm sorry about your son, and anyone who gets attacked by these pigs.

[Hortensis]

57. Hey, they're like strong conservative government out of control.

What on earth do people think strong-conservative governments look like and do? Always so surprised that they behave normally for them if people don't keep them in check.

Moderate conservatives can run sensible and responsible governments set up "for the people" and work and even often agree with liberals.

But, generally speaking, strong conservatives are something else. They believe in hierarchical authority, the top orders, the bottom obeys. They do not believe in equality the way we do: They believe in a natural order in which good behavior is naturally rewarded with its fruits and bad discouraged with its consequences. Thus they believe that good government encourages good behavior and discourages, and when necessary firmly punishes, bad behavior..

To their minds governments that do that are doing their job to protect and grow good societies. And if they slip, if it's bad most do NOT approve but if there's conflict feel it's important to uphold authority for the good of all.

But most hard-core conservatives are also the kind of strong authoritarian followers who elect Trumps and Hitlers and can be depended on to take the side of the Officer Chauvins when they murder.

Remembering the tragedy of 2016, when this SO didn't have to happen...

[underpants]

5. This guy (and the Dept) was a loose cannon

I’d guess there was a lot of one ups manship going on there. Trading stories and everyone trying to go to another level.

[Crunchy Frog]

6. I hope she testifies at the trial.

[lunasun]

7. Rec . MN and Chauvin unfortunately are not alone . This below in Chicago this week

https://blockclubchicago.org/2020/06/03/black-women-pulled-from-car-kneeled-on-by-chicago-police-officers-outside-northwest-side-mall-i-was-scared-for-my-life/

BELMONT CRAGIN — A Black woman running errands in Belmont Cragin on Sunday was pulled from a car and brutalized by Chicago police in an encounter captured on video.

Mia Wright, Tnika Tate and three others were headed to the Brickyard Mall, 2600 N. Narragansett Ave., Sunday afternoon to pick up some supplies for a small birthday celebration, Tate said, only to discover the mall was closed due to looting the night before. According to Ald. Gilbert Villegas (36th), the mall was shuttered as neighbors worked to repair the damage.

Tate, 39, turned around to leave the mall when she saw a group of Chicago police officers and pulled over to get out of their way, she said.

Seconds later, about a dozen officers rushed her car with guns drawn, she said. In a violent confrontation caught on video, officers then smashed the windows, dragged 25-year-old Wright out of the car by her hair, threw her to the ground and pinned her by her neck — eerily reminiscent of the police confrontation that led to George Floyd’s death in Minneapolis, sparking massive protests throughout the country. A male family friend was also pulled from the car.

“It was devastating because there was nothing we could do,” Tate said.
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[Nevilledog]

16. Had not seen that one before.

[lunasun]

44. The police left her mother and a cousin stranded in the lot with no car after all this went down

None of them got a chance to even speak before it started which reminded me of this line in your post -

“Chauvin and an unnamed officer “without a word” reached inside her car, unlocked the door and began pulling her out”

[Girard442]

10. They left a 2-month old in a car alone in August.

People have been prosecuted for that alone.

[SiliconValley_Dem]

14. your reply makes zero sense

[KS Toronado]

25. Article starts with "In August 2007, Melissa Borton"

Most states have laws regarding leaving children in hot cars, police always turn off cars if nobody in drivers seat, hence hot car and newborn, not a good combination. Above comment makes perfect sense.

[kcr]

29. The cops left a baby in a hot car

I'm not seeing how the post makes no sense

[niyad]

40. Perhaps a rereading of the OP should help clarify things. The post you are questioning is NOT in

Response to the Chicago story, but to the OP.

[SiliconValley_Dem]

49. yep...that's it. thanks

[niyad]

53. You are welcome. It can get a little mixed up at times.

[liberalmuse]

11. Oh my god.

This is disgusting. People say there are good cops, but there are no good cops who let bad cops get away with stuff like this. None.

[jb5150]

20. I've always said ....

There are 2 kinds of cops, the bad ones and the ones that look the other way … there are no good cops.

[Cha]

12. I bet she was so scared with her baby

left in the car while she was dragged away by this policeman. It's good she got his name, Derek Chauvin.

Police are there to Protect and Serve.. not to Drag and Harass.. and Scare.

[SheltieLover]

18. K&R!

[Wawannabe]

19. My sis was a victim of this about 2009

She was driving a suv same make and color as a armed robbery suspect. She was not treated well but they didn’t harm her. Scared shitless for a few hours!

Nothing done about it.

[Demovictory9]

39. in this case, there was no armed robbery. Chauvin lied

[WhiskeyGrinder]

21. FTP.

[2Legit]

22. People will start coming out of the woodwork to testify about this asshole's reign of terror.

I hope that he has to look at and listen to every single one of them in court.

Did anyone else notice that he didn't look like the same guy in his mugshot? Yeah, he knows he is effed whether he is convicted or not. He will know what it feels like to live in constant fear. Personally, because I'm so tired of this madness, I'd good with it.

[Oppaloopa]

34. Yes I did and I thought it strange he looked like he had boobs look again.

[totodeinhere]

23. I had thought that police officers have to pass a psychological screening before being hired.

And then once hired they were subject to occasional additional screenings. Am I mistaken about that?

[LittleGirl]

30. He's been there years.

They don’t care anymore. We are their enemies now.

[Hekate]

26. A sadistic bastard from waaaay back. And some people wonder why wifey filed for divorce so fast...

...just as soon as he was locked up.

[kcr]

32. I'd wager a ton that he abused her

She's taking the opportunity to get out. It's a tough thing for victims to do in general, but even harder if your abuser is a cop.

[Oppaloopa]

35. Who bailed him out?????Remember the only person who went to jail after Eric Garner arrest was the

photographer. He was denied bail raised for him by the judge it was raised on Go Fund Me because the judge said he could not tell who all donated. So who donated half a million in bail? Police Union, trumpers????

[dalton99a]

54. +1

[womanofthehills]

27. When I was around 19, many yrs ago, a policeman made me get in his car

Because he said I looked like a suspect he was looking for. I was just walking down a street at the Jersey Shore. I was freaked out because I had no idea of what he would do with me - honestly, I was thinking rape. A description of a women came over his radio - the total opposite of me - and he let me out at the boardwalk. The women with the 2 month old baby made me think of this story.

[csziggy]

41. When I got my first car, my Dad told me never open the window for a lone cop

There had been a series of rapes by a deputy sheriff. He'd pull over women alone in their cars, get them out, handcuff them, rape them in his car, then threaten to charge them with prostitution if they reported the rape. The last woman he raped was a minister's wife who refused to yield to his threats and reported him with his badge number. He'd raped a good number of women this way before he picked the wrong one.

So Dad told me to always drive with all my doors locked. If I were pulled over on a lonely road, only open my window a crack big enough to pass my driver's license, registration, and insurance card through. And NEVER get out unless there were at least two copss.

I was pulled over on a lonely road in the middle of the night. The cop wanted to know why I wouldn't open my window more and I told him. He was aware of the story about the sheriff's deputy so understood. What was sort of funny was he pulled me over for speeding - I was freaked out since he'd followed through several turns to get to the dirt road he finally pulled me over on, I thought it was someone following me to where I lived in the national forest. The cop never explained why he seemed to be following me. Who knows, maybe he was hoping for an easier mark.

[Demovictory9]

50. San Diego cop killed a woman. He'd signal for lone women to keep driving to secluded spots

and eventually killed one. after the case, the changed the rules so that women don't have to pull over immediately but can drive until they feel safe before pulling over.

One women realized she had escaped the killer. He'd motioned for her to keep driving, driving to secluded spot. Then he walked over and just stood there. suddenly her boy friend, who had been sleeping with the seat reclined woke up and sat up, surprising the cop. that saved her life.

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/public-safety/sd-me-knott-verdict-anniversary-20180621-story.html

[MontanaMama]

36. More stories like this will come out.

I will bet that the defense attorney and the police union will try to quash them.

[progree]

37. But she drove an incredible 10 mph over the speed limit !!!!

The last sentence of the article:

She wasn’t certain until she read an article published this week by the Los Angeles Times, nearly 13 years later, detailing the incident. It was there she learned the reason she had been stopped — going 10 miles over the speed limit.

This is the entire LA Times article at Yahoo News, no LA Times paywall
https://news.yahoo.com/minneapolis-woman-recalls-run-officer-100046861.html?.tsrc=jtc_news_index

And yes my subject line is sarcasm.

[mainer]

38. I'm surprised they didn't shoot her dog

Sounds like the kind of cop who would

[Doreen]

47. That is exactly my thought.

Barking German Shepherd for asholes like this means a free kill of something.

[DeminPennswoods]

42. Understandable AfAms are terrified of the cops, but

plenty of white people are ultra cautious around cops, too. I've only ever been stopped for speeding, but I make sure both hands are visible on my steering wheel and when the cops asks for license and registration, I let the cop know where the information is and what moves I'm going to make to get it out. I am not taking any chances.

[Blue Owl]

45. Minneapolis is safer with this sick fuck locked up -- for life, hopefully

n/t

[Doreen]

48. I think that women no matter what color are just

as likely to get harrassed.

I am lucky that the officers that pulled me over were nice or at least polite.

One of them pulled me over for a stupid reason ( slightly tinted liscence plat cover ) but just gave me a warning. He was in a pissy mood but at the same time was polite.

Another time my lights were out and he just wanted me to know and wanted me to be safe. Yes, there are police out there like that.

The one that surprises me about being nice was the one who pulled me over for speeding in a school zone while kids where getting out for the day. I was crying because I felt so bad that I had not been paying attention and she did not say anything rude or unkind.

I am so fortunate that those have been my only experiences with the police because I have talked to people who have had a really bad encounter and it is scary.

[LiberalFighter]

51. How many like him in the department?

[58Sunliner]

59. No one, no matter what color or sex you are, should feel safe when a cop pulls you over,

or comes to your residence. I had a bunch of cops on my porch harassing me for complaining about a drug dealer. One tried to assault my sister at a rally in a remote area at the Oakland docks. Two cops beat my 13 year old brother with billy clubs on our front lawn.

[AllyCat]

61. OMG.

We need to purge our police departments. And they need to be retrained with psychological testing. All I can say is poor family and thank heavens this woman was white. Or that baby might be an orphan.