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Doodley

(9,034 posts)
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 03:05 PM Jun 2020

They tear-gassed and used rubber bullets against a peaceful crowd, was this legal?

All so Trump could do a photo op. Okay there's dispute whether it was tear gas or pepper spray, either way, this is an abuse of power. No president should treat the people this way.

Is "I was just following orders" an acceptable excuse or is there grounds for prosecution against those who were responsible?

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They tear-gassed and used rubber bullets against a peaceful crowd, was this legal? (Original Post) Doodley Jun 2020 OP
I was wondering something similar Jarqui Jun 2020 #1
Exactly. That would be a way of sending a powerful message to other police or national guard. Doodley Jun 2020 #8
No no no. No tear gas. underpants Jun 2020 #2
What next? Will they switch to water hoses? nt DURHAM D Jun 2020 #3
When those "troops" took that first step toward the crowd underpants Jun 2020 #5
Yep - definitely not tear gas - Lokee11 Jun 2020 #6
👀 underpants Jun 2020 #7
When I checked, Fox was not showing the crowd unc70 Jun 2020 #12
Never happened underpants Jun 2020 #16
If any of us did that against an innocent person, that would be a crime. Is Trump and his band of Doodley Jun 2020 #10
If I'm not mistaken, they're arguing that because the gas used capsicum (pepper spray) Dial H For Hero Jun 2020 #14
That's what I thought LeftInTX Jun 2020 #18
Stop picking on Barbie!!!11!! (Gawd, I detest her) Alex4Martinez Jun 2020 #15
in case anyone wants to see some evidence Archetypist Jun 2020 #4
Wow. Thanks. underpants Jun 2020 #9
They are lying. They fired tear gas, and flash bangs, and pepper canisters. Nevilledog Jun 2020 #13
I have no clue! Archetypist Jun 2020 #17
"Tear gas" seems like such a loaded term OriginalGeek Jun 2020 #11

underpants

(182,591 posts)
2. No no no. No tear gas.
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 03:08 PM
Jun 2020

Parks issued a statement that it wasn’t tear gas. Sure it makes your eyes water as well as burn and makes it It hard to breath but it wasn’t tear gas.

Spokesperson Barbie had this ready to go yesterday with Jim Acosta.

What was it? Who knows but it was NOT tear gas.

underpants

(182,591 posts)
5. When those "troops" took that first step toward the crowd
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 03:15 PM
Jun 2020

My daughter and I were watching and I let out a “uh oh”. She looked at me and we both knew this was about to get bad. I can’t claim I could have ever seen the rest as it played out. It was all because he needed to counter the bunker story (they are calling it an “inspection” now).

Lokee11

(235 posts)
6. Yep - definitely not tear gas -
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 03:19 PM
Jun 2020

See the definition found for tear gas at the Merriam-Webster site is as follows -

tear gas noun
Definition of tear gas (Entry 2 of 2)
: a solid, liquid, or gaseous substance that on dispersion in the atmosphere irritates mucous membranes resulting especially in blinding of the eyes with tears and is used chiefly in dispelling mobs.

And you see what was used to dispel the "mob" of protesters was just a some sort of substance that was a solid, liquid, or gaseous substance that on dispersion into the atmosphere irritated the mucous membranes of those there and resulted in many reactions like on some it had the effect of blinding thier the eyes with tears. See, so it definitely was NOT tear gas.

Gonna believe what I tell you or your own lying eyes?

FDT

underpants

(182,591 posts)
7. 👀
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 03:22 PM
Jun 2020

Exactly

I read here on Tuesday that Fox News has some vague “gee we don’t know what happened to the crowd” line they were spewing. I still don’t know what Fox aired. Did they show any of it at all or was it Just the speech then the walk?

unc70

(6,109 posts)
12. When I checked, Fox was not showing the crowd
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 04:31 PM
Jun 2020

Last edited Thu Jun 4, 2020, 05:36 PM - Edit history (1)

I switched over several times to check on them. Never saw any of the use of force on Fox. After the speech, they had Karl Rove on then started showing the walk while rove continued talking. Then the other walk back. No mention that I caught of the protestors. Nice and sanitized.

I didn't stay with Fox more than a few seconds at a time. Kept switching back to CNN to see what was really happening.

Doodley

(9,034 posts)
10. If any of us did that against an innocent person, that would be a crime. Is Trump and his band of
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 03:25 PM
Jun 2020

terrorist mercenaries above the law?

 

Dial H For Hero

(2,971 posts)
14. If I'm not mistaken, they're arguing that because the gas used capsicum (pepper spray)
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 04:43 PM
Jun 2020

as the irritant rather than CS or CN that it wasn't tear gas....which is ridiculous.

LeftInTX

(25,106 posts)
18. That's what I thought
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 06:24 PM
Jun 2020

I think tear gas is no longer used in the US and they just use pepper spray, although everyone, including the media just calls it tear gas.

Hence they can just say, "We didn't use tear gas".

underpants

(182,591 posts)
9. Wow. Thanks.
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 03:24 PM
Jun 2020

I just loved how they are hiding behind this technicality when we all saw them fire gas into the crowd.

Nevilledog

(50,986 posts)
13. They are lying. They fired tear gas, and flash bangs, and pepper canisters.
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 04:38 PM
Jun 2020

What I want to know is why any fucking human being would think it was somehow "better" if only the tear gas was untrue?. All the other things they used, in addition to charging horses, they don't deny, and they're all fucking horrible.

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