Trump Said No Tear Gas Used to Clear Protesters for Photo Op. These Canisters Suggest Otherwise.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

You really can believe your own eyes.

A reporter from the Washington D.C. TV station WUSA 9 shared images on Twitter of tear gas canisters he and a colleague collected from near the White House on Monday—contradicting claims from the White House and U.S. Park Police that authorities did not deploy the weapon against peaceful protesters clear the way for President Donald Trump’s photo-op.

The photographs show spent CM Spede Heat CS and CM Skat Shell OC short-range rounds, both produced by the firm Defense Technology “as a crowd management tool for the rapid and broad deployment of chemical agent,” as described on the company’s website. While “OC” stands for oleoresin capsicum, a chile-pepper-derived substance, “CS” is an industry abbreviation for 2-chlorobenzalmalononitrile—the key ingredient in tear gas.

The effects, according to the vendor: “burning sensation, heavy flow of tears, involuntary closing of eyes.”

Link to tweet

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-said-no-tear-gas-164207505.html

[LizBeth]

1. They do not "suggest" otherwise. They factually show otherwise. Just saying.

[ProfessorGAC]

3. Not Sure About That

Tear gas is a general term for chemical substances with lachrymating effects.
Specific forms of dispersal gasses have names like CN, CS, or capsaicin based material as described in the article.
Calling only the aminohaloorganics tear gas is hair splitting as they both effect the upper respiratory system & eyes.
So, I'm not convinced that the chemical effects are sufficiently different as to call using OC "not tear gas".
The chemistry differs. The effects, absent the nausea inducement from CS, are effectively identical.

[LizBeth]

4. They were incorrectly arguing tear gas is CS. What was used couldn't be teargas because it wasn't CS

Yes. Teargas is a general term. Finding the canister alone shows without a doubt A teargas was used. Regardless. As far as I see it. Am I wrong?

[ProfessorGAC]

8. They Were

I thought you were arguing the OP.
I didn't read it as refuting the idiot mob in the WH.
If you did refer to them, you're spot on, then.
And quite frankly, since we saw video of gas that chased people away, the canister isn't even needed.
We know they shot gas to disperse the crowd. The empty canister doesn't really matter, no matter the label.

[Hortensis]

5. Thanks. Pretty much as I've read without the chemical names.

The world saw gas. The world saw people running and stumbling away from it, saw percussion "flash-bang" grenades (whatever type) that rattled windows in the WH behind Trump speaking in the Rose Garden, from rubber bullets, from batons being wielded (yes, they WERE deployed), from 1000+-pound horses and their hooves.

[Jim__]

2. Trump's lying again? It will be news if he ever tells the truth.

[Cha]

6. BLOTUS is a LIAR.. Everything he's spews is a BIG FAT LIE.

[crickets]

7. People on twitter trying to claim OC canisters aren't really tear gas

are not making the point that they think they are. Not only is OC considered tear gas, it's apparently worse than the original:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepper_spray

The European Parliament Scientific and Technological Options Assessment (STOA) published in 1998 "An Appraisal of Technologies of Political Control"[10] with extensive information on pepper spray and tear gas. They write:

The effects of pepper spray are far more severe, including temporary blindness which lasts from 15–30 minutes, a burning sensation of the skin which lasts from 45 to 60 minutes, upper body spasms which force a person to bend forward and uncontrollable coughing making it difficult to breathe or speak for between 3 and 15 minutes.

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US Army concluded, in a 1993 Aberdeen Proving Ground study, that pepper spray could cause "[m]utagenic effects, carcinogenic effects, sensitization, cardiovascular and pulmonary toxicity, neurotoxicity, as well as possible human fatalities. There is a risk in using this product on a large and varied population".[15] However, the pepper spray was widely approved in the US despite the reservations of the US military scientists after it passed FBI tests in 1991. As of 1999, it was in use by more than 2,000 public safety agencies.[16]

The "it was only pepper spray" argument isn't going to work either.