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gibraltar72

(7,498 posts)
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 07:20 PM Jun 2020

I am not a lawyer, but i have watched all the Matlock reruns

Tell me why this wouldn't work. It was reported that New York pays from 200 million to 300 million a year in court judgments for excessive force cases etc. Why when cases are filed shouldn't the Cop unions or Federations as Minny. is called. be named as co defendant. Citing the culture they have created and encourage. I say that being as strong a union man as there is.

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I am not a lawyer, but i have watched all the Matlock reruns (Original Post) gibraltar72 Jun 2020 OP
Settlements Paid, Sir, Should Be Deducted From Pension Funds The Magistrate Jun 2020 #1
+1000 alwaysinasnit Jun 2020 #2
I love that idea. gibraltar72 Jun 2020 #4
Excellent idea. Throw in the legal fees too. nt crickets Jun 2020 #12
Because (1) The policies of the federation are not, The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2020 #3
This StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #6
Drat. crickets Jun 2020 #13
Shoulda watched Perry Mason. n/t 5X Jun 2020 #5
Nah... needed to stay at a Holiday Inn whistler162 Jun 2020 #11
The Master-Servant rule. sop Jun 2020 #7
We want Matlock! underpants Jun 2020 #8
Honestly, there needs to be better vetting of new recruits, periodic assessments after hiring, Hoyt Jun 2020 #9
Agreed. It begins with hiring a different kind of police officer. sop Jun 2020 #10
Vote for those that will clean it up. safeinOhio Jun 2020 #14
Break up the murder-culture-producing copper unions via the RICO Act. crush those fuckers to dust Celerity Jun 2020 #15

The Magistrate

(95,241 posts)
1. Settlements Paid, Sir, Should Be Deducted From Pension Funds
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 07:23 PM
Jun 2020

A mild means of encouraging police to police themselves....

gibraltar72

(7,498 posts)
4. I love that idea.
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 07:26 PM
Jun 2020

I think putting the onus on the the union to defend in court. And have potential penalties would change the culture sooner than anything i can think of.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,587 posts)
3. Because (1) The policies of the federation are not,
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 07:25 PM
Jun 2020

in the legal sense, the direct or proximate cause of a particular act of police misconduct, and (2) the federation is not the employer of the police officers and therefore is not liable for their actions under so-called master-servant principles.

sop

(10,100 posts)
7. The Master-Servant rule.
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 07:29 PM
Jun 2020

"The master-servant rule is a legal guideline stating that employers are responsible for the actions of their employees. The rule applies to any actions an employee undertakes while in the service of an employer that is within the scope of their duties for that employer. Another way of describing the master-servant rule is that the master (employer) is vicariously liable for the torts and misdeeds of their servant (employee). This concept may also be called 'the principle of respondeat superior' or 'let the master answer.'"

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
9. Honestly, there needs to be better vetting of new recruits, periodic assessments after hiring,
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 07:32 PM
Jun 2020

sanctions against officers who witness wrong-doing but say nothing, mandatory body cameras, etc.

To be fair, there are going to be times where police personnel are going to have to shoot. I'd hate to see them worrying about losing their pension at that moment, although I think it does happen sometimes.

We need a better "class" of police, maybe coming more from a social services background, than military background would help.

safeinOhio

(32,641 posts)
14. Vote for those that will clean it up.
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 08:16 PM
Jun 2020

Be it a sheriff or a mayor, that person holds responsibility for the cops action. If they don't clean house, kick em out. They get to control our tax dollars, so they must pay the price.

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