Did you know that COVID-19 cases HAVE INCREASED in 20 states over the past five days?

[stopbush]

Not exactly being trumpeted by the media. I wonder why? Directly related to reopening too soon:

California: rise in Covid-19 cases raises fears over reopening and protests

The number of coronavirus cases in California is on the rise after weeks of optimism that infections had slowed, raising fears that plans to reopen counties, along with mass protests against police brutality, could accelerate transmission of the virus.

According to numbers from Johns Hopkins University, which has been tracking coronavirus cases and deaths, California is one of 20 states that have seen an uptick in cases in the past five days.

Just this week, daily cases of Covid-19 hit a new high across the state, topping 3,000 new daily confirmed cases for the second time in a week and contributing to the 115,000 cases and more than 4,300 deaths the state has reported since the pandemic began.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/03/california-covid-19-cases-rise-reopen-protest

[msongs]

1. now what's the most likely reason for that one might ask nt

[littlemissmartypants]

4. Whether we like it or not the increased testing is a reason.

Also reasons are on each of us as individuals, like asymptomatic spreading, not social distancing, not wearing masks and the rules of exponential math which means that for every one new infection there are at least two if not three more infected. So it's exponential that the more infected the faster it spreads especially if there's no social distancing and people refuse to wear masks while others go around deliberately coughing in people's faces to "own the libs" and there's no accountability because there's no rigorous contact tracing.
So...
As a member of a high risk group I've been at home alone since the first week of March and have been out exactly three times to pick up medicine which was delivered to my car. I don't trust anyone and plan to survive this ordeal at all cost.

I am, fortunately, financially stable if not extremely lonely and disgusted by my fellow humans.

Good luck to everyone reading this.
❤ lmsp

ETA: Lest we forget, we're fighting against a virtually invisible enemy that's highly contagious & few non-medical folks understand infection control to the extent that is required for this fight.

[canetoad]

7. Don't you have some open countryside or a beach

To walk on? I'm not being snarky - far from it. I really don't understand lonliness when there is a beautiful and diverse, if struggling, planet to learn about. From the fossilized creatures to the current inhabitants.

Our time is finite and best not spent being sorrowful, lonely or regretful.

[littlemissmartypants]

19. I am fine. I have two little pooches that rescued me.

Thanks for the hug.

[uponit7771]

11. This is false, covidactnow.org is only showing 90% of counties with proper positive test rates the

... rest still aren't testing at a high enough rate.

Our testing still is conditional not sentinel

[littlemissmartypants]

14. FAQ Covid

Why do the number of cases of the coronavirus disease for previous days increase?

Delays in reporting can cause the number of COVID-19 cases reported on previous days to increase. (Sometimes this effect is described as “backfill.”) State, local, and territorial health departments report the number of cases that have been confirmed and share these data with CDC. Since it takes time to conduct laboratory testing, cases from a previous day may be added to the daily counts a few days late.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/faq.html

More...

Where U.S. coronavirus cases are on the rise...graphs by state

https://graphics.reuters.com/HEALTH-CORONAVIRUS/USA-TRENDS/dgkvlgkrkpb/

❤ lmsp

[Buckeye_Democrat]

16. Thanks for that link!

That's one of the nicer web pages that I've seen for trends! Easy to see and compare.

Virtual hug!

[littlemissmartypants]

18. YW, Buckeye_Democrat.

Back to you...

[uponit7771]

23. This has nothing to do with counties not having a positive test rates

[littlemissmartypants]

26. I don't understand what you are trying to say and

I don't know what you want. It's not making any sense to me.

Cases are going up and will continue to rise. We've crossed the Rubicon, jumped the shark. The ship has sailed and it's not turning back. The cases are not going to stop and the cases and sadly, the deaths, will just multiply.

Whatever the reason, it's only going to get worse.

[uponit7771]

27. That testing doesn't explain the increases seeing the positive test rate is not in the green in 90%

... of the counties in the US

or

for most of the populated areas seeing that every county is not relatively counted.

Its getting better but its not in green enough to say testing is the reason we're seeing higher infection numbers

[littlemissmartypants]

31. From LBN

U.S. Cases Are Still Rising by More Than 20,000 Daily
Source: New York Times..


The uptick, mainly in the South and West, appears to be driven in part by increased testing and the virus taking hold in new regions. Here's the latest. Story on Front page...See link above...


Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/

Emphasis mine.

[ProfessorGAC]

32. It's Definitely The Case In Illinois

The positivity rate continues to fall but cases are not dropping all that much.
The testing however is averaging 2.5 what it was in early and mid April.
The positivity rate falling as cases rise is algebraic proof that testing is a causative factor in cases detected.
Not, that may not be the case in many other states. But, here it definitely is a cause.

[MoonlitKnight]

2. NOT due to protests

Too soon.

This is all because of reopening.

Next week would show some impact from protests. Hopefully the theory backed by some research that being outdoors limits risk will prove correct.

[Fiendish Thingy]

10. Protests have been going at least 10 days, incubation can be as short as 4-5 days

So yes, some of this uptick could be due to protests, but in states like Florida and other gulf states, reopening is the likely culprit.

We should know in another week or so the Full impact Of protests on the COVID case rate.

[stopbush]

29. I said nothing about the protests in my OP.

[Solly Mack]

3. Yes, I did.

Reopening too soon, the protests (eventually), and people opting to not take precautions independent of the first two.

That's not a judgment on the protests. Just a fact.

People made a choice. But to expect people to sit by while the police kill yet another black person is too much to ask.

The long, long history of police brutality used against the black community made sheltering at home untenable.

[littlemissmartypants]

5. And they will continue to rise.

Anyone expecting a slow down is delusional. We're in a pandemic and it's just getting started. Be thankful that you don't live in Yemen.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/04/middleeast/yemen-coronavirus-intl/index.html

[OhioChick]

6. This is due to re-opening the Country too soon....

Wait until the crowds/lack of social distancing cases begin in a few weeks.

It's going to burn through the Country.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

13. I'm switching my public face covering to...

... some bicycle/outdoors dust masks that I bought a few weeks ago.

They have one-way valves to allow my breath to escape mostly unhindered, so that's why I decided to not use them. However, ALL of my face coverings do that! And at least these dust mask valves can be turned to direct the breaths toward the ground, unlike my cloth masks that just let it escape out the sides and everywhere else. The dust masks still block major "droplet projectiles" from coughs and sneezes too.

The clincher was seeing a bunch of healthcare workers wearing masks with valves. They're exposed to the virus much more than me! So screw it, I'm wearing the dust masks that are much tighter on my face, don't cause my glasses to fog, and don't leave my face such a wet mess. (The humidity in Ohio really sucks.)

[OhioChick]

15. That's interesting....

I haven't seen any healthcare workers in my neck of the woods wearing the masks with valves.
As a matter of fact, I came across an article the other day stating they weren't ideal for a pandemic due to the valve on them.
I'll have to look into that further.

They're all wearing N-95's here and their faces are almost bloodied from wearing them for such insane shifts. They said it's extremely hard to breathe in them for so long.

I've saved the N-95's I've purchased for the kids for the hospital and I'm personally not a big fan of cloth masks. I don't like the idea of having to bring it in the house, remove it and wash them with who knows what's on them. I'd prefer to throw it out before coming inside.

The surgicals are fine, although (at least on me) they have gaps on the sides.

What I have found that I'm comfortable with are the KN95's, which are a step below the N-95's.
They fit snuggly around all areas of my face, which is comfortable and makes me feel a bit more safe.

I do try to wear a pair of glasses when I absolutely have to go out since it's documented that the virus can enter the mucous membranes in the eyes.

You are right about Ohio, the humidity is awful!

[Buckeye_Democrat]

17. These outdoors/athletic dust masks are KN95's too.

I've mostly been wearing disposable surgical masks during the few times that I had to be in public with others (many of whom don't wear masks at all around here), and it struck me how I was letting my exhaled breaths escape along the sides (and every other direction) with them. So why was I so concerned about the dust masks doing that too? Plus it can be directed straight toward the ground with them.

I've seen both kinds of N95 (and better) masks, but lately I'm noticing more healthcare workers on TV wearing the ones with one-way valves.

[stopbush]

30. Yes, that's what I said in my OP.

[quakerboy]

8. Not "too soon"

"Opening without doing the things necessary to make opening safe"

Its not that we didnt have the time to do what was needed to make opening reasonably safe.

[OldBaldy1701E]

9. BINGO! (n/t)

[Maxheader]

12. Publication here that added a separate column..

for the daily corona stats...it goes like this..or did for awhile,

New lnfections....deaths......recovered...infections for churchgoers...

That was awhile back...The point by the newspaper was social distancing

Is absolutely necessary. Then and now. Corona seems to be showing up less

and less. And along with the summer heat, soc/dist will knock this thing out!..

[Vinca]

21. I read they're going up in my state and the GOP governor - who has been doing a decent job -

has decided to continue to open things up. At this point it seems like it's everyone for themselves. I'll remain a mask-covered hermit.

[JHB]

22. Is it an extraordinarily big jump or the usual cycle?

There have always been ups and downs over the course of a week

[obamanut2012]

24. Memorial Day Weekend and improved testing

The protest spikes haven't really happened yet, but those crowded beaches and bars spikes are.

[helpisontheway]

25. No because the media has stopped talking about covid. Nt

[Hortensis]

28. Yes, sadly. We've been watching our home county in north Georgia,

wanting to return home from "winter" in central Florida, but rates are still rising dangerously there. We can self isolate there also, of course, and the issue is availability of proper medical care if needed.

Something of a coin toss, but a hurricane could end up deciding it. This old mobile home has been wired to stakes in the sand for over 50 years , but that just shows it's never been tossed.

The combination of pandemic disease and large natural disasters like fire season on the west coast and hurricanes on the east is likely to worsen both exponentially. Disaster volunteers may be half usual, in good part because most of those out rescuing others are older people. And federal management has fallen under the control of corrupt and incompetent scoundrels.