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Nice to see stocks racing back up like nothing is wrong in the world (Original Post) Calculating Jun 2020 OP
Since my retirement fund is wrapped up in the market.... AkFemDem Jun 2020 #1
It's only nice if you're selling. dawg Jun 2020 #3
The colossal money laundry keeps on going. Hugin Jun 2020 #2
The speculation is that it is not a thing anymore. Roll the dice. Thomas Hurt Jun 2020 #4
I guess Covid was all just a hoax lol Calculating Jun 2020 #5
the market only thinks about whether or not companies can make profits unblock Jun 2020 #6
Excellent explanation. PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 2020 #11
That's what I like obnoxiousdrunk Jun 2020 #12
You didn't fly anywhere, but you bought a ticket like everyone else Takket Jun 2020 #7
Three card Monte, rigged for the wealthy. sarcasmo Jun 2020 #8
Looks like they'll believe any old bullshit C_U_L8R Jun 2020 #9
Everything is good, everybody get back to work. shockey80 Jun 2020 #10
I dont get it ace3csusm Jun 2020 #13

dawg

(10,621 posts)
3. It's only nice if you're selling.
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 11:29 AM
Jun 2020

If you're still making contributions (aka, buying), you're paying through the nose for them.

unblock

(52,116 posts)
6. the market only thinks about whether or not companies can make profits
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 11:41 AM
Jun 2020

the market does not pass judgment on whether times are good or bad, only if they're profitable.

the markets are realizing that they overreacted when the crisis hit, and that the pandemic is not going to interfere with profitability nearly as much as they initially thought. that is all that is going on.

i think a key driver is that *other* countries are largely getting this thing under control, and *other* countries are going to be able to have largely reopened economies, relying on massive testing to only shut down, temporarily, any localized hot spots.

that means that global businesses are largely returning to normal, and businesses in america that deal with businesses overseas may be able to get back to something close to normal, even if the american consumer is not doing great. that accounts for a lot of the stock market these days.

add to that the trillions the government has poured into the market in a very short time, and you've got a market that is going up up up.


the real question is, what will it do when the government say, ok, we're done with stimulus, and the covid crisis continues.

we'll see. personally, i think much of the stock market rise recently is warranted, as the initial drop was indeed a big overreaction. but i don't see a huge amount of upside from here.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,816 posts)
11. Excellent explanation.
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 12:34 PM
Jun 2020

A lot of people here seem to fundamentally misunderstand just how the markets work, and there's a weird consensus that it is being manipulated all the time. Or that you can time the market, which is essentially impossible.

And if companies are continuing to make money, the stock market will stay strong.

ace3csusm

(969 posts)
13. I dont get it
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 12:54 PM
Jun 2020

I have never seen so many major iconic companies go out of business or close stores. Something isnt right ....

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