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Peacetrain

(22,875 posts)
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 01:03 PM Jun 2020

Listen up people.. the stock market does not have a conscience..

It does not looks at trends of people losing jobs... the market is about making money.. and most times, when we lose jobs the market goes up.. This is why President Obama did not sit and crow about his growing stock market.. he was looking at job numbers...

The volcano under Yellowstone park could explode tomorrow and the market still go through the roof..

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Listen up people.. the stock market does not have a conscience.. (Original Post) Peacetrain Jun 2020 OP
K&R, especially seeing most of the large leg ups in the indexes are AFTER HOURS !!! uponit7771 Jun 2020 #1
I know, President Obama's steady job growth for nearly all of his Presidency Peacetrain Jun 2020 #3
+1, 3 republican presidents in my voting life and 3 fucked up economies I don't see how Gen X can... uponit7771 Jun 2020 #5
True. Alacritous Crier Jun 2020 #8
All it ever indicates to me is 2naSalit Jun 2020 #2
True that!!! Peacetrain Jun 2020 #4
Sharks swim and feed - it's what they do, it's all they do and they're good at it . . . hatrack Jun 2020 #6
Fuckhead Trump will insist that the rising DOW means three things: Orrex Jun 2020 #7
You are right in the best of times genxlib Jun 2020 #9
Yes I_UndergroundPanther Jun 2020 #10

Peacetrain

(22,875 posts)
3. I know, President Obama's steady job growth for nearly all of his Presidency
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 01:09 PM
Jun 2020

after he put in all his programs was stunning. and even the market grew at a steady pace... When he left he was cutting into the deficit.. Republicans are a nightmare when it comes to economics.. they do it all on the credit card and are too gutless to tax to pay for it sticking all of it on the backs of our children

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
5. +1, 3 republican presidents in my voting life and 3 fucked up economies I don't see how Gen X can...
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 01:12 PM
Jun 2020

... ever vote for a republican

2naSalit

(86,579 posts)
2. All it ever indicates to me is
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 01:08 PM
Jun 2020

what kind of bullshit will emerge from the WH next time something spews forth.

hatrack

(59,584 posts)
6. Sharks swim and feed - it's what they do, it's all they do and they're good at it . . .
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 01:14 PM
Jun 2020

The problem arises when we hire them to serve us as lifeguards, or expect them to hold the same values as we do.

Orrex

(63,208 posts)
7. Fuckhead Trump will insist that the rising DOW means three things:
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 01:19 PM
Jun 2020

1. That he is a magnificent leader
2. That citizens absolutely don't need a second $1200 bailout pittance
3. That corporations absolutely do need yet another trillion dollar bailout

genxlib

(5,524 posts)
9. You are right in the best of times
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 01:30 PM
Jun 2020

Now it is both conscience free and disconnected from reality.

I expected it to bounce part of the way back up since some portion of the lockdown was temporary. But the market is acting as if all of it was temporary and that economic activity and the stock market can be back at January levels.

That just isn't going to happen.

The way I see it, there are three categories of losses.
1. Losses that are gone for good.. ie meals not eaten, trips not taken, gas not used
2. Losses that will get recouped through pent-up demand ... ie toaster not bought in March but bought in July
3. Losses going forward that due to reduced operations...ie reduced capacity, people staying home, extra labor costs with protective measures.

All three categories are real

Real economic activity will bounce back some fraction but I figure it will take at least two years to get back on track.

It seems to me that the market is pricing based on "not-as-bad-as-we-thought" or "thank-god-its-over" instead of real actual activity.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,463 posts)
10. Yes
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 02:12 PM
Jun 2020

And I say cut the invisible hand clean off.

The invisible hand is the greedy rich using the government to rob the nation for themselves.

Never trust a billionaire or multi millionaire for thier consience in many cases is dead.

Cap individual wealth so they can't control the country again.

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