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WhiskeyGrinder

(22,329 posts)
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 08:49 PM Jun 2020

As George Floyd Died, Officer Wondered About "Excited Delirium"

https://www.themarshallproject.org/2020/06/04/as-george-floyd-died-officer-wondered-about-excited-delirium

In the final moments of George Floyd’s life, as he laid face down and Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin knelt on his neck, another officer asked Chauvin if they should roll Floyd onto his side. “I am worried about excited delirium or whatever,” the officer told Chauvin, according to authorities. Chauvin refused to turn over Floyd, who was pronounced dead shortly after.

The officer, Thomas Lane, was talking about a controversial diagnosis often cited when people die in police custody. People with excited delirium are said to be aggressive and incoherent, and to have “superhuman strength,” often after taking stimulant drugs such as cocaine or methamphetamine. Police groups and some experts say it’s a real condition, requiring immediate action and medical treatment.

But critics, including some medical experts, have attacked the condition as junk science and say it’s often used as a convenient excuse to justify excessive police force. The diagnosis has an especially contentious history in Minneapolis.

Now the controversy over excited delirium is likely to heat up, as some legal and policing observers are predicting it could become part of Chauvin’s defense against the charges he faces in Floyd’s death, including second-degree murder.


"Excited delirium" was also found to be a "factor" in the cop-caused deaths of Zachary Bear Heels and Tony Timpa.
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As George Floyd Died, Officer Wondered About "Excited Delirium" (Original Post) WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 OP
cop excuse 101 warrior1 Jun 2020 #1
FTP & ACAB Coventina Jun 2020 #2
Excited delirium? sheshe2 Jun 2020 #3
Bullshit, made-up condition not recognized by medicine dalton99a Jun 2020 #4
A new tool in their belt! ZZenith Jun 2020 #5
I'm sure it's on the body cam recording, right? maxrandb Jun 2020 #6
That will be Chauvin's defense. The local medical examiner cited drugs, but private Hoyt Jun 2020 #7
Wanna see excited delirium? Let these thugs go free... cayugafalls Jun 2020 #8
aka dweller Jun 2020 #9

sheshe2

(83,751 posts)
3. Excited delirium?
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 09:01 PM
Jun 2020

He was in handcuffs FFS! He had one man kneeling on his neck, one with two knees on his back and another on his feet. Turning him on his side weakened and still handcuffed terrified these police officers so much that they preferred to suffocate him instead. They are in the wrong line of work.

maxrandb

(15,324 posts)
6. I'm sure it's on the body cam recording, right?
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 09:16 PM
Jun 2020

I mean something like that would be recorded, right?

Or did the body cam "malfunction"?

This isn't something that they would just make up, is it?

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
7. That will be Chauvin's defense. The local medical examiner cited drugs, but private
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 09:22 PM
Jun 2020

autopsy did not.

Don’t think it will work, 9 minutes on a handcuffed, cooperative, limp person (who at worst spent a counterfeit $20 bill he didn’t print) is hard to explain away.

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