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https://www.themarshallproject.org/2020/06/04/as-george-floyd-died-officer-wondered-about-excited-deliriumIn the final moments of George Floyds life, as he laid face down and Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin knelt on his neck, another officer asked Chauvin if they should roll Floyd onto his side. I am worried about excited delirium or whatever, the officer told Chauvin, according to authorities. Chauvin refused to turn over Floyd, who was pronounced dead shortly after.
The officer, Thomas Lane, was talking about a controversial diagnosis often cited when people die in police custody. People with excited delirium are said to be aggressive and incoherent, and to have superhuman strength, often after taking stimulant drugs such as cocaine or methamphetamine. Police groups and some experts say its a real condition, requiring immediate action and medical treatment.
But critics, including some medical experts, have attacked the condition as junk science and say its often used as a convenient excuse to justify excessive police force. The diagnosis has an especially contentious history in Minneapolis.
Now the controversy over excited delirium is likely to heat up, as some legal and policing observers are predicting it could become part of Chauvins defense against the charges he faces in Floyds death, including second-degree murder.
The officer, Thomas Lane, was talking about a controversial diagnosis often cited when people die in police custody. People with excited delirium are said to be aggressive and incoherent, and to have superhuman strength, often after taking stimulant drugs such as cocaine or methamphetamine. Police groups and some experts say its a real condition, requiring immediate action and medical treatment.
But critics, including some medical experts, have attacked the condition as junk science and say its often used as a convenient excuse to justify excessive police force. The diagnosis has an especially contentious history in Minneapolis.
Now the controversy over excited delirium is likely to heat up, as some legal and policing observers are predicting it could become part of Chauvins defense against the charges he faces in Floyds death, including second-degree murder.
"Excited delirium" was also found to be a "factor" in the cop-caused deaths of Zachary Bear Heels and Tony Timpa.
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As George Floyd Died, Officer Wondered About "Excited Delirium" (Original Post)
WhiskeyGrinder
Jun 2020
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warrior1
(12,325 posts)1. cop excuse 101
Coventina
(27,115 posts)2. FTP & ACAB
sheshe2
(83,751 posts)3. Excited delirium?
He was in handcuffs FFS! He had one man kneeling on his neck, one with two knees on his back and another on his feet. Turning him on his side weakened and still handcuffed terrified these police officers so much that they preferred to suffocate him instead. They are in the wrong line of work.
dalton99a
(81,468 posts)4. Bullshit, made-up condition not recognized by medicine
ZZenith
(4,121 posts)5. A new tool in their belt!
Right next to high on PCP.
maxrandb
(15,324 posts)6. I'm sure it's on the body cam recording, right?
I mean something like that would be recorded, right?
Or did the body cam "malfunction"?
This isn't something that they would just make up, is it?
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)7. That will be Chauvin's defense. The local medical examiner cited drugs, but private
autopsy did not.
Dont think it will work, 9 minutes on a handcuffed, cooperative, limp person (who at worst spent a counterfeit $20 bill he didnt print) is hard to explain away.
cayugafalls
(5,640 posts)8. Wanna see excited delirium? Let these thugs go free...
They haven't seen anything yet...
dweller
(23,629 posts)9. aka
fighting for my life ?
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