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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAttorneys are offering to help sex workers who signed NDAs but want to out homophobic senator
Link to tweet
See the replies for tweets from other attorneys offering to help.
You'll also see the replies explaining the NDAs wouldn't be enforceable if the intent is to conceal a crime. The NDAs the homophobic senator allegedly demanded sex workers sign were meant as intimidation.
ck4829
(35,042 posts)mopinko
(70,074 posts)sobenji
(316 posts)Otherwise, it could be any of the 53 -Rs
rzemanfl
(29,556 posts)rzemanfl
(29,556 posts)paleotn
(17,911 posts)his double life. A certain South Carolina senator that is. It's been an open secret for decades.
The surprise of the century
Squidly
(783 posts)sandensea
(21,621 posts)says more about them that it does about Sister Lindsey.
If nothing else, it says they're blinder than a mole on a moonless night.
But then, we on DU always knew that.
raccoon
(31,110 posts)As a resident of SC, I used to be fairly OK with LG, about as much as I could tolerate a Republican. Until he unmistakably went over to the dark side.
sandensea
(21,621 posts)If there's one thing Lindsey always has been, it's obvious.
But I suspect most Republicans go along with the ruse willingly - so long as he tows the far-right line.
Here's hoping some of these escorts talk.
Lindsey's another J. Edgar - and if the latter's escorts had talked back then, the country wouldn't have been subjected to Edgar's 3rd world-style mafia tactics for as long as it did.
yeah, OK
duforsure
(11,885 posts)Adults and children come out and demand justice , and before the next election.
gibraltar72
(7,501 posts)W T F
(1,146 posts)TruckFump
(5,812 posts)...those that signed the NDAs would not recognize him?
Srkdqltr
(6,267 posts)Mossfern
(2,472 posts)niyad
(113,239 posts)AlexSFCA
(6,137 posts)worse so, supports homophobic legislation. Hypocrisy needs to be revealed. However, this may backfire on us too.
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)But you already knew that.
fleur-de-lisa
(14,624 posts)his sexual orientation.
And Dump is, in turn, being blackmailed by a hostile foreign power because he is corrupt.
So although none of us at DU care who is or isnt gay, this is, in a very literal sense, a matter of national security. I dont state this lightly.
Squidly
(783 posts)I dont think he would care one bit about hiding corruption, he hasnt his whole life...
I think its something MUCH darker...I believe it is something perversely sexual that he was taking part in while over there running his pageants. My guess it involves minors, and lots of them and not just your run of the mill sex either....think more on the lines of Hostel (the movie), BDSM, or other things
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)Then yes it sure as fuck matters if they're gay.
Cha
(297,123 posts)Thekaspervote
(32,754 posts)At this point, anything is fair game
keithbvadu2
(36,749 posts)An NDA is a paper trail... Seems really stupid on the part of the bigwig.
onenote
(42,686 posts)Graham would have to admit there was an NDA to enforce it and then he'd have to explain why he wanted an NDA from the other person. Political suicide.
I'm doubting the NDA story.
paleotn
(17,911 posts)You're in the election fight of your career ...and now this. Guess one does reap what they sow. And as the bible also says....Numbers 32:23..."be sure your sins will find you out"
Jakes Progress
(11,122 posts)The jerk is guilty of multiple sins against mankind and America, but almost all of those are very well known. Indeed, he will list them for you. He is proud of them, as are the feeble minded fools that support him.
I'm sure you do not list his sexual preference as one of his sins. He is a despicable cur and a gutless coward and just a waste of humanity. But who he chooses to be intimate with is not one his failings, though the way he has dealt with his life and the atrocities he has committed to keep it quiet are definitely sinful.
CountMyVote4Reality
(209 posts)Thank you for the clarification.
paleotn
(17,911 posts)as a "sin" only because his ardent supporters think it is. And they're rather adamant about that. He's had to keep it as secret as possible, knowing a Republican can't get elected dog catcher in SC if they're openly LGBTQ.
Jakes Progress
(11,122 posts)I see no problem with admonishing the senator to come out of the closet. No problem with pointing out the hypocrisy of one who works to punish people with desires just like his. No problem with showing that his reticence to acknowledge his sexual preference has allowed trump and russia to co-op him with blackmail.
But his sexual orientation is not a sin. A sin is defined as "an immoral act considered to be a transgression against divine law".
If you decide that you can use the homophobic or racist or xenophobic or misogynistic to get what you want, then you are doing what republicans did when they began getting the Southern vote by welcoming the help of bigots.
You can call out the senator as a hypocrite and a compromised lawmaker without calling homosexuality a sin.
rusty fender
(3,428 posts)According to the bible, it is a sin to get tattoos, to eat shellfish, to wear clothes of mixed fibers, etc. So, if being gay is a sin, then so is being straight
paleotn
(17,911 posts)Nothing triggers them more than someone being LGBTQ. Well, that, guns and fetuses....or is it feti? If it becomes public, what's been rumored since his days in law school, it will end his career. Even SC Republicans can't handle that much cognitive dissonance.
mercuryblues
(14,530 posts)that an NDA could not be used to hide illegal shenanigans.
highplainsdem
(48,961 posts)But since the intent of the NDA was to intimidate, the sex workers who signed them will probably want to be reassured by an attorney that they're free to speak out.
mercuryblues
(14,530 posts)I read a lot in the SC race. This is the 1st time that A Dem is a serious challenger to graham. Harrison is polling neck to neck and out fundraising him. Still has graham war chest to consider.
ProfessorGAC
(64,990 posts)I remember the concept from business law in b-school.
It's called an unconscionable contract.
The biz examples were signing a contract to agree on price fixing or violations of FCPA.
A contract signed to protect illegal actions is considered prima facie void.
bucolic_frolic
(43,123 posts)'I haven't read it.'
'Don't know.'
Is this an isolated case?
Dios Mio
(429 posts)make a meal of this if the tables were turned.
Hip2bSquare
(291 posts)I remember a story about some hackers hacking a law firm and asking for ransom money. Law firm confirmed it was true and they wouldn't give in to the demands. Haven't seen anything on it since. We've been tolerant of this administration and this right winged congress too long. Time to take it up a notch. Let's hope some boots start quaking!
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)of this.
Gore1FL
(21,127 posts)Can contracts about crimes have any credibility in a courtroom?
Generic Brad
(14,274 posts)Those dudes tend to look the other way for their peeps.
oldsoftie
(12,527 posts)There's always something going on & we never see a resolution
What was ever on the DVD Avenatti kept flashing?
cayugafalls
(5,639 posts)We seem to be using his rumored sexual preference as a weapon.
Please help me understand how this is OK.
I know his record. I just feel it's wrong on some level.
If you have ever had to deal with the pain and depression of coming out you would understand why I feel the way I do...while it can be freeing, forced outing can lead to suicide and I wish that on no man or woman.
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)Ruin this hypocritical Aunt Milo piece of filth.
I'm against outing people, unless they're enemies like this piece of shit. I want Lindsey Graham to suffer.
meadowlander
(4,394 posts)paleotn
(17,911 posts)It's the hypocrisy. For most folks in this situation, I agree with you completely. It's a choice they must make themselves and no one should ever, ever out them. But he, his party, his followers, and a whole religious tradition that supports him have literally made war on the same orientation he was born with. He made the choice over and over again to viciously attack those just like himself for nothing but crass political gain. Now it's time to pay the piper.
The calculus of this is simple as well. If Graham proceeds on this course of sham Senate hearings about Biden, Biden's son and Barack Obama, he will be made to pay dearly, both professionally and personally. Politics is rough and bare knuckled. You can't reform it.
cayugafalls
(5,639 posts)This rumor has been tried before, years ago, and it failed to produce any real proof.
I just hope this isn't a ruse to get us to "look over there", while all this other important stuff is happening. And then perhaps, being used to help discredit some on our side.
I get the hypocrisy. If it is true, then he will have to deal with it.
Thank you for the explanation.
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)It's sexual orientation.
Secondly if it's true that he's gay ( which someone needs to be prove to me beyond innuendos) then he's using the mask of straight male privilege to help push forward the antigay agenda of the Republican Party. He needs to he outed and then can go join the odious Log Cabin Republicans and let the electorate decide if they want to support him as he truly is.
We shouldn't be outing people because we want them to be spokespeople but people who are actively pushing harm? Yup they sure as fuck need to be outed.
cayugafalls
(5,639 posts)Danascot
(4,690 posts)oasis
(49,370 posts)Takket
(21,552 posts)Graham was no fan of drumpf until drumpf got him out on the golf course... no doubt that was where drumpf told him he would destroy Graham if he didn't get on board.......
from 2017
https://www.businessinsider.com/why-lindsey-graham-and-trump-are-best-friends-2017-12
Perhaps nothing helped better illustrate the about-face Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham has taken in his relationship with President Donald Trump than a comment he made about the media's portrayal of the president in a recent interview with CNN.
"What concerns me about the American press is this endless, endless attempt to label the guy as some kind of kook not fit to be president," he said.
The comment went viral almost instantly. Why? Because Graham was at one time among those who labeled Trump a "kook" not fit for office.
"I think he's a kook," Graham said in February 2016. "I think he's crazy. I think he's unfit for office."
orleans
(34,046 posts)or is this simply one more thing in the lead up to the election?
i'm just wondering why this is being talked about now