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grumpyduck

(6,231 posts)
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 11:32 AM Jun 2020

Turns out Lindsey is a bachelor. Always has been.

Let me clear here: I don't care what anybody's private life is. The guy has a right to be gay if that's what he is. And he has a right to be a bachelor if he wants to.

My interest in this is very simple. If it's true that he's "Lady G," and if it's true that therefore POtuS is using that against him, then, if he gets outed, POtuS may lose his hold over him.

Graham was a very vocal critic of POtuS until that golf game in 2017 (and thanks to another DUer for the link to the CNN article). This could get very interesting.

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Turns out Lindsey is a bachelor. Always has been. (Original Post) grumpyduck Jun 2020 OP
Check out this tweet: TheBlackAdder Jun 2020 #1
He's so deep in the closet he bumped into Pence on his way to Narnia. *snort* Nevilledog Jun 2020 #12
That's hysterical spinbaby Jun 2020 #15
Putin might have the dirt on Lindsey, if there is any. dem4decades Jun 2020 #2
That is my opinion True Blue American Jun 2020 #7
But why stay closeted? JenniferJuniper Jun 2020 #3
I think it may be about losing face more than anything. grumpyduck Jun 2020 #4
There's a group called "Log Cabin Republicans" DeminPennswoods Jun 2020 #13
Post removed Post removed Jun 2020 #17
The hiring of sex workers is why. roamer65 Jun 2020 #5
It really does. jimfields33 Jun 2020 #22
In Roman times, the prostitutes worked in the temples... Wounded Bear Jun 2020 #31
You have to remember Butterflylady Jun 2020 #14
Maybe age of concent Soxfan58 Jun 2020 #20
My thoughts exactly. TruckFump Jun 2020 #26
There you go. That is the way to go after him. LiberalFighter Jun 2020 #27
South Carolina. The other GOP senator from SC is also thought to be Gay JI7 Jun 2020 #36
You know, this is an open secret about Sen. Graham, right? Greybnk48 Jun 2020 #6
A cute little underage escort with a mini video camera Jarqui Jun 2020 #30
It is South Carolina. Not exactly a cross section of America IMO. dem4decades Jun 2020 #33
Maybe Trump himself leaked this Nictuku Jun 2020 #8
Ok . . Iliyah Jun 2020 #9
I don't mind this being a talking point if it bothers Lindsey Graham, but... Mike 03 Jun 2020 #10
We have the RIGHT to know if he is being blackmailed. Kingofalldems Jun 2020 #11
+1 Baitball Blogger Jun 2020 #19
Extremely young...eppstein videos likely JT45242 Jun 2020 #16
Or something he did while in the USAF JAG corps. grumpyduck Jun 2020 #25
FWIW, LG has denied being gay. soothsayer Jun 2020 #18
So what if he said that? grumpyduck Jun 2020 #24
Well, I know that when I blackmail somebody, that's the person Mike 03 Jun 2020 #21
The power of a secret Turbineguy Jun 2020 #23
there is a clip of LG getting upset... TrunKated Jun 2020 #28
Exactly how much "stimulus" has he given the sex workers? Doodley Jun 2020 #29
Graham used to hide in McCain's shadow. By 2017, I think he knew that wasn't going to last much hughee99 Jun 2020 #32
LG's sexual status is one of the least secret "secrets" in DC. Paladin Jun 2020 #34
You're not allowed into the inner circles of the Republican Party without skeletons in your closet. hunter Jun 2020 #35

TheBlackAdder

(28,181 posts)
1. Check out this tweet:
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 11:34 AM
Jun 2020

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China is a hoax filmed on the moon. @r_chadrick
Replying to @SeanHardingXXX

You're not alone. And everybody knows Graham is gay. It's the worst kept secret in DC. He's so deep in the closet he bumped into Pence on his way to Narnia.






Rolling Stone wrote in January, expressing not that Graham is gay, but the hypocrisy of him voting anti-LGBTQ.


Read this Crooks & Liars article for more: https://crooksandliars.com/2020/06/gay-porn-star-threatening-out-homophobic

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True Blue American

(17,982 posts)
7. That is my opinion
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 11:40 AM
Jun 2020

Something changed Lindsey right at the time of John McCain’s. Him inviting Jared and Ivanka when he knew John and the whole family made it clear they did not want them there.

Video on him showed he was nervous as a cat that day. Trump has dirt on him. Epstein and boys, maybe?

JenniferJuniper

(4,510 posts)
3. But why stay closeted?
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 11:35 AM
Jun 2020

Everyone knows already. It's 2020, even his constituents probably don't care. Why allow yourself to be blackmailed by that piece of shit?

I think Trump has more than just that on him.

grumpyduck

(6,231 posts)
4. I think it may be about losing face more than anything.
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 11:38 AM
Jun 2020

Or getting hit with the question of why he turned after that golf game.

Or about being sen as a hypocrite given his LGBTQ stances.

Response to DeminPennswoods (Reply #13)

jimfields33

(15,760 posts)
22. It really does.
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 12:24 PM
Jun 2020

So strange that it’s illegal in the first place. And then all the police, law, courts for what? Waste of money and resources. As long as it’s adults it doesn’t matter.

Greybnk48

(10,167 posts)
6. You know, this is an open secret about Sen. Graham, right?
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 11:40 AM
Jun 2020

They would have to have something sinister, like pedophilia, to cause him any real trouble since being gay is not looked down on anymore by the majority of Americans.

Jarqui

(10,122 posts)
30. A cute little underage escort with a mini video camera
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 01:30 PM
Jun 2020

buys you a US Senator from South Carolina

By the sounds of it, he'd gotten complacent with his secret.

A little careless and his decision could be:
be a US Senator doing Trump's bidding or do some jail.time for being with someone underage.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
9. Ok . .
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 11:51 AM
Jun 2020

I thought you were talking about Lady Gaga - LOL

I don't care about someone's sexual preference. I do care about a member of congress, elected and rec'd taxpayer money to work for the American people. In this case, it appears to be solely or shithole.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
10. I don't mind this being a talking point if it bothers Lindsey Graham, but...
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 11:51 AM
Jun 2020

He's not that hard to understand. If you read Bob Woodward's book, Fear, he presents this relationship as fulfilling an inner need Graham has always had to have the attention of and validation from a more charismatic, more powerful politician. He loves being the guy that Trump calls in the middle of the night in the middle of an anxiety attack. He loves pontificating and actually having someone take him seriously, and he loves giving advice to Trump on what to do with our troops and sharing his grand vision of foreign relations (probably a lot of which he borrowed from John McCain, who fulfilled the mentor role before Trump did).

Someone also explained Lindsey Graham as being like a pilot fish that attaches itself to a whale for the safety and shelter it provides. That's a good analogy too. Graham is amoral, so he can shift allegiances easily. He loves the attention and adoration of the most powerful man in the world. It's just another peak experience for Graham.

He really is that person.

Ann Applebaum nails it in her mandatory-reading essay History Will Judge the Complicit
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/07/trumps-collaborators/612250/

For those who have never experienced it, the mystical pull of that connection to power, that feeling of being an insider, is difficult to explain. Nevertheless, it is real, and strong enough to affect even the highest-ranking, best-known, most influential people in America. John Bolton, Trump’s former national security adviser, named his still-unpublished book The Room Where It Happened, because, of course, that’s where he has always wanted to be. A friend who regularly runs into Lindsey Graham in Washington told me that each time they meet, “he brags about having just met with Trump” while exhibiting “high school” levels of excitement, as if “a popular quarterback has just bestowed some attention on a nerdy debate-club leader—the powerful big kid likes me!?” That kind of intense pleasure is hard to relinquish and even harder to live without.


Lindsay Graham is, for want of a better term, a Groupie.

JT45242

(2,259 posts)
16. Extremely young...eppstein videos likely
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 12:12 PM
Jun 2020

As far back as the Clinton years, I had friends in the DC area who told me that LG liked young boys, didn't care if they were High school or college.

Likely there are films from Eppstein parties with him with underaged male sex workers who had been trafficked. Eppstein filmed lots of rooms for lots of dirt on lots of people.

Of course, if LG comes clean admits he was blackmailed by Trump about sex trafficked workers, it might end up with two results. A RICO investigation into the matter and a polonium cocktail.

He might lose the election anyway, but being caught with photos of underage boys could lead to prison.

grumpyduck

(6,231 posts)
25. Or something he did while in the USAF JAG corps.
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 12:34 PM
Jun 2020

If this bit of wild-ass speculation is correct, then I'd vote for Putin having something on him.

soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
18. FWIW, LG has denied being gay.
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 12:13 PM
Jun 2020

From a strange old story suggesting LG dated Laura Ingraham.

Snip:

This throwback comes on the heels of unsubstantiated rumors the single House member might be a closeted homosexual. Last fall, Graham’s critics tried to force him out of his presumed closet after he had shown support for President Donald Trump.

“To the extent that it matters, I’m not gay,” Graham told TMZ at the time.

https://www.newsbreak.com/news/0K0hre54/throw-back-thursday-lindsey-graham-and-laura-ingraham-used-to-date

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
21. Well, I know that when I blackmail somebody, that's the person
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 12:20 PM
Jun 2020

I call in the middle of the night to express my anxieties and innermost thoughts, fears and frustrations, and then to seek advice from on foreign policy decisions. And he's always overjoyed to see me and hear from me, and brags about it to anyone who will listen.

TrunKated

(210 posts)
28. there is a clip of LG getting upset...
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 12:57 PM
Jun 2020

While discussing recording of calls with Russians with an intelligence hearing.

He is visible unnerved that he might have been recorded talking to the Russian operative, because they were tapping the operatives line.

I think this was shortly before that golf game with tRump.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
32. Graham used to hide in McCain's shadow. By 2017, I think he knew that wasn't going to last much
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 01:35 PM
Jun 2020

longer. I suspect that played into his change of heart on Trump.

Paladin

(28,246 posts)
34. LG's sexual status is one of the least secret "secrets" in DC.
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 01:52 PM
Jun 2020

It has been so for decades. If you have long-term DC acquaintances, they've probably confirmed this, already.

Which wouldn't make any difference to me---if Lindsey Graham were anything close to being a decent human being.

hunter

(38,309 posts)
35. You're not allowed into the inner circles of the Republican Party without skeletons in your closet.
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 02:00 PM
Jun 2020

That's how they control one another, that's how they enforce secrecy.

Anyone who deviates from the party line will be destroyed.

Trump has all sorts of secrets that would destroy him: Russian money, tax evasion, drug use, rape, etc..

Trump's vanity and personal failures make him the perfect puppet.

I don't even want to know what's in Pence's closet. That guy creeps me out. I do know it's something repugnant or he wouldn't be vice president.

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