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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTurns out Lindsey is a bachelor. Always has been.
Let me clear here: I don't care what anybody's private life is. The guy has a right to be gay if that's what he is. And he has a right to be a bachelor if he wants to.
My interest in this is very simple. If it's true that he's "Lady G," and if it's true that therefore POtuS is using that against him, then, if he gets outed, POtuS may lose his hold over him.
Graham was a very vocal critic of POtuS until that golf game in 2017 (and thanks to another DUer for the link to the CNN article). This could get very interesting.
TheBlackAdder
(28,181 posts).
China is a hoax filmed on the moon. @r_chadrick
Replying to @SeanHardingXXX
You're not alone. And everybody knows Graham is gay. It's the worst kept secret in DC. He's so deep in the closet he bumped into Pence on his way to Narnia.Link to tweet
Rolling Stone wrote in January, expressing not that Graham is gay, but the hypocrisy of him voting anti-LGBTQ.
Read this Crooks & Liars article for more: https://crooksandliars.com/2020/06/gay-porn-star-threatening-out-homophobic
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Nevilledog
(51,063 posts)spinbaby
(15,088 posts)Blew coffee out my nose.
dem4decades
(11,282 posts)True Blue American
(17,982 posts)Something changed Lindsey right at the time of John McCains. Him inviting Jared and Ivanka when he knew John and the whole family made it clear they did not want them there.
Video on him showed he was nervous as a cat that day. Trump has dirt on him. Epstein and boys, maybe?
JenniferJuniper
(4,510 posts)Everyone knows already. It's 2020, even his constituents probably don't care. Why allow yourself to be blackmailed by that piece of shit?
I think Trump has more than just that on him.
grumpyduck
(6,231 posts)Or getting hit with the question of why he turned after that golf game.
Or about being sen as a hypocrite given his LGBTQ stances.
DeminPennswoods
(15,273 posts)he could join.
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roamer65
(36,745 posts)Prostitution really needs to be legalized, like Australia.
jimfields33
(15,760 posts)So strange that its illegal in the first place. And then all the police, law, courts for what? Waste of money and resources. As long as its adults it doesnt matter.
Wounded Bear
(58,626 posts)Butterflylady
(3,541 posts)SC is a big Billy Graham state.
Soxfan58
(3,479 posts)Is the issue.
TruckFump
(5,812 posts)There is more to it than being gay and hiring sex workers.
LiberalFighter
(50,836 posts)JI7
(89,244 posts)Greybnk48
(10,167 posts)They would have to have something sinister, like pedophilia, to cause him any real trouble since being gay is not looked down on anymore by the majority of Americans.
Jarqui
(10,122 posts)buys you a US Senator from South Carolina
By the sounds of it, he'd gotten complacent with his secret.
A little careless and his decision could be:
be a US Senator doing Trump's bidding or do some jail.time for being with someone underage.
dem4decades
(11,282 posts)Nictuku
(3,600 posts)... he needed another distraction.
Focus.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)I thought you were talking about Lady Gaga - LOL
I don't care about someone's sexual preference. I do care about a member of congress, elected and rec'd taxpayer money to work for the American people. In this case, it appears to be solely or shithole.
Mike 03
(16,616 posts)He's not that hard to understand. If you read Bob Woodward's book, Fear, he presents this relationship as fulfilling an inner need Graham has always had to have the attention of and validation from a more charismatic, more powerful politician. He loves being the guy that Trump calls in the middle of the night in the middle of an anxiety attack. He loves pontificating and actually having someone take him seriously, and he loves giving advice to Trump on what to do with our troops and sharing his grand vision of foreign relations (probably a lot of which he borrowed from John McCain, who fulfilled the mentor role before Trump did).
Someone also explained Lindsey Graham as being like a pilot fish that attaches itself to a whale for the safety and shelter it provides. That's a good analogy too. Graham is amoral, so he can shift allegiances easily. He loves the attention and adoration of the most powerful man in the world. It's just another peak experience for Graham.
He really is that person.
Ann Applebaum nails it in her mandatory-reading essay History Will Judge the Complicit
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/07/trumps-collaborators/612250/
Lindsay Graham is, for want of a better term, a Groupie.
Kingofalldems
(38,444 posts)Or compromised in any other way.
Baitball Blogger
(46,697 posts)It means that they will hold onto power by whatever means in order to protect their secrets.
JT45242
(2,259 posts)As far back as the Clinton years, I had friends in the DC area who told me that LG liked young boys, didn't care if they were High school or college.
Likely there are films from Eppstein parties with him with underaged male sex workers who had been trafficked. Eppstein filmed lots of rooms for lots of dirt on lots of people.
Of course, if LG comes clean admits he was blackmailed by Trump about sex trafficked workers, it might end up with two results. A RICO investigation into the matter and a polonium cocktail.
He might lose the election anyway, but being caught with photos of underage boys could lead to prison.
grumpyduck
(6,231 posts)If this bit of wild-ass speculation is correct, then I'd vote for Putin having something on him.
soothsayer
(38,601 posts)From a strange old story suggesting LG dated Laura Ingraham.
Snip:
This throwback comes on the heels of unsubstantiated rumors the single House member might be a closeted homosexual. Last fall, Grahams critics tried to force him out of his presumed closet after he had shown support for President Donald Trump.
To the extent that it matters, Im not gay, Graham told TMZ at the time.
https://www.newsbreak.com/news/0K0hre54/throw-back-thursday-lindsey-graham-and-laura-ingraham-used-to-date
grumpyduck
(6,231 posts)Politicians lie when they feel they have something to gain.
Mike 03
(16,616 posts)I call in the middle of the night to express my anxieties and innermost thoughts, fears and frustrations, and then to seek advice from on foreign policy decisions. And he's always overjoyed to see me and hear from me, and brags about it to anyone who will listen.
Turbineguy
(37,312 posts)lies in its being a secret.
TrunKated
(210 posts)While discussing recording of calls with Russians with an intelligence hearing.
He is visible unnerved that he might have been recorded talking to the Russian operative, because they were tapping the operatives line.
I think this was shortly before that golf game with tRump.
Doodley
(9,078 posts)hughee99
(16,113 posts)longer. I suspect that played into his change of heart on Trump.
Paladin
(28,246 posts)It has been so for decades. If you have long-term DC acquaintances, they've probably confirmed this, already.
Which wouldn't make any difference to me---if Lindsey Graham were anything close to being a decent human being.
hunter
(38,309 posts)That's how they control one another, that's how they enforce secrecy.
Anyone who deviates from the party line will be destroyed.
Trump has all sorts of secrets that would destroy him: Russian money, tax evasion, drug use, rape, etc..
Trump's vanity and personal failures make him the perfect puppet.
I don't even want to know what's in Pence's closet. That guy creeps me out. I do know it's something repugnant or he wouldn't be vice president.