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edbermac

(15,939 posts)
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 04:09 PM Jun 2020

Man loses hand to homemade bomb, wanted to target 'hot cheerleaders'

ABINGDON, Va. (AP) — A southwest Virginia man who blew off his hand in an apparent explosives accident has been charged in federal court after authorities say they found evidence he was making a bomb and wanted to target “hot cheerleaders” because of his sexual frustrations.

An FBI affidavit filed Friday in federal court in Abingdon says 23-year-old Cole Carini of Richlands showed up at a hospital Wednesday with one hand blown off, fingers blown off his second and other shrapnel wounds.

He told authorities he’d been in a lawnmower accident. But authorities searched his property, and found explosives materials, rusty nails, pipes and pieces of flesh. They also found parts of a scorched letter that referenced tension “as he now approached the stage of hot cheerleaders” and “I will not be afraid of the consequences no matter what I will be heroic I will make a statement like Elliott Rodgers.”

Elliott Rodger killed himself in 2014 after killing six others, including two women outside a sorority house near Santa Barbara, Caifornia, leaving behind a manifesto that has been a rallying point for the online “incel” community. Incels, a shorthand phrase for “involuntarily celibate,” justify violence against women as revenge for men who are rejected as sexual partners.


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Man loses hand to homemade bomb, wanted to target 'hot cheerleaders' (Original Post) edbermac Jun 2020 OP
He wouldn't be in this situation if he used that hand correctly in the first place. RandySF Jun 2020 #1
*snort* Nevilledog Jun 2020 #3
Ha! Too funny. fleur-de-lisa Jun 2020 #8
I believe you mean if he used that hand "appropriately" sanatanadharma Jun 2020 #11
DUzy!!! CatWoman Jun 2020 #40
Wiping his butt in prison is going to be a problem. Historic NY Jun 2020 #2
he thought he was sexually frustrated before name not needed Jun 2020 #4
Yea, it's going to be a lot more difficult to get dates now. LisaL Jun 2020 #7
Sounds like it. Blue_true Jun 2020 #42
Lost one hand, parts of the other irisblue Jun 2020 #5
How to self pleasure is going to be the least of his worries in prison. nt Blue_true Jun 2020 #43
cutting off his nose to spite his face was not far enough I guess... Thomas Hurt Jun 2020 #6
of all the pathetic groups of losers out there... dhill926 Jun 2020 #9
What is it with those people? Blue_true Jun 2020 #44
"Maybe now more hot women will want to date me" struggle4progress Jun 2020 #10
"I will be heroic" dalton99a Jun 2020 #12
And a really shitty writer to boot. skypilot Jun 2020 #20
No kidding. That is awful. yellowcanine Jun 2020 #38
Incel Terrorist ck4829 Jun 2020 #13
Is it ok if I laugh at his misfortune? 3Hotdogs Jun 2020 #14
the only way this could be better is if he blew his dick off name not needed Jun 2020 #39
Guess he's now voluntarily celibate. VOX Jun 2020 #15
If you aren't quick around here Chainfire Jun 2020 #16
Thought The Same ProfessorGAC Jun 2020 #17
Now all he's got is this bloody stump Blue Owl Jun 2020 #18
Idiot ornotna Jun 2020 #19
DUZY ! dweller Jun 2020 #30
That should make them flock to you now Ferrets are Cool Jun 2020 #21
I guess going to a brothel wasn't an option with social distancing. Doodley Jun 2020 #22
Looked like he lived in a rural-like area. Plus he likely didn't have the money, even Blue_true Jun 2020 #45
he could get it Withywindle Jun 2020 #50
You are most likely dead on target about his attitude toward women. Blue_true Jun 2020 #52
Good riddance, and keep him locked up for a long time JHB Jun 2020 #23
Being an incel Turbineguy Jun 2020 #24
woopsie samnsara Jun 2020 #25
It's sad that he didn't get the mental help he needed. I hope he does. nt chowder66 Jun 2020 #26
My thought precisely: Mental illness is a terrible burden . . . Journeyman Jun 2020 #29
I don't see anything in the article suggesting he had mental illness. LisaL Jun 2020 #34
Some dysfunction is evidenced by the behavior. Hortensis Jun 2020 #35
"I will not back down I will not be afraid" gratuitous Jun 2020 #27
What an ugly little twerp I_UndergroundPanther Jun 2020 #28
Looks kinda like a before/after meth poster usajumpedtheshark Jun 2020 #31
I'm glad no one else was hurt Demovictory9 Jun 2020 #32
Cole now needs a really good friend who has two intact hands. nt NCjack Jun 2020 #33
Those 'righties' do the dumbest things sometimes. TheCowsCameHome Jun 2020 #36
Were his nads damaged? yellowcanine Jun 2020 #37
Yeah. Sort of like a man producing the anti-Christ. Blue_true Jun 2020 #46
How come women never like the nice guys?!?!?! Music Man Jun 2020 #41
The Darwin award goes to... Beacool Jun 2020 #47
This guy was a danger to all, he already had convictions for explosives... Historic NY Jun 2020 #48
He lost his left hand so he's going to be all right. Initech Jun 2020 #49
Keep in mind... BGBD Jun 2020 #51

sanatanadharma

(3,705 posts)
11. I believe you mean if he used that hand "appropriately"
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 04:19 PM
Jun 2020

If he had been appropriate and used the hand for pleasure rather than pain,
he would likely have still done it incorrectly.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
42. Sounds like it.
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 07:14 PM
Jun 2020

Maybe he can figure out a gyrating on a pillow technique.

He will be lucky if the Feds send him to a country club prison. If he goes to a real one he is going to get sex, just not the type he imagined.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
6. cutting off his nose to spite his face was not far enough I guess...
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 04:16 PM
Jun 2020

had to blow off his hand to spite his personality.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
44. What is it with those people?
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 07:22 PM
Jun 2020

Do they so turn off women that not even the ones they could likely hook up with want them? Do they just hate women so much that approaching a woman is impossible for them.

When women had no rights in this country, they were forced to marry idiot men like him. Maybe the freedom to chose that women have now is why we are seeing so many incels, they have always been around, it was just society made it possible for their inadequacy to be hidden.

dalton99a

(81,485 posts)
12. "I will be heroic"
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 04:26 PM
Jun 2020
https://www.bdtonline.com/news/details-emerge-in-explosives-plot/article_1313d53a-a77c-11ea-affd-1ff1cb8e5da5.html
Details emerge in explosives plot
Cryptic letter describes mall violence

When the FBI Bristol responded to the request for assistance at Holy Road, the Tazewell County Sheriff's Office and the Virginia State Police informed the FBI "that Carini was known to them as being someone who had previously made explosive devices and had been on probation for explosives violations up until September 2019," according to the complaint.

As the investigation continued, a crumpled letter was found on the ground outside a shed on Carini's property, according to the criminal complaint. Some parts of the letter had been ripped away or could not be read.

Part of the letter read, "He casually walked through the shopping mall, his jacket concealed deadly objects. He was doing it and was assured it must be done. Even if he died this statement was worth it! He had...of tension that would come and go as he now approached the stage of hot cheerleaders. He blended in with the audience, he began scanning his surroundings. He noticed his two security guards who were standing side by side! This was an important observation."

"A dead seriousness sank in as he realized that he was truly passing the point of no return!" according to the letter quoted in the criminal complaint. "He decided I will not back down I will not be afraid of the consequences no matter what I will be heroic I will make a statement like Elliot Rodgers did he thought to himself."

VOX

(22,976 posts)
15. Guess he's now voluntarily celibate.
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 04:29 PM
Jun 2020

Does that make him a “vol-cel”? Things can change pretty quickly if you’re certifiably insane (and screwing around with explosives).

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
45. Looked like he lived in a rural-like area. Plus he likely didn't have the money, even
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 07:29 PM
Jun 2020

if he did find someone outside of a big city or more populated area.

Withywindle

(9,988 posts)
50. he could get it
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 03:12 AM
Jun 2020

if he could get some meth. (I am a little bit familiar with this area).

Here's the thing though. Guys like this think they are entitled to "hot" women. By which they mean perfect bodies, pretty faces, no older than 25. And they should definitely get it for free - paying for it is just as emasculating as not getting laid at all.

From the "before" shot, he was even kind of cute, objectively speaking. He could have found a girlfriend if not for the festering rot inside that yes, women can pick up and rightfully avoid.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
52. You are most likely dead on target about his attitude toward women.
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 11:19 AM
Jun 2020

Like you, I don't think that he was bad looking, before he almost blew his face off, but even those scars will heal somewhat. What won't heal is what is in his heart.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
23. Good riddance, and keep him locked up for a long time
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 05:02 PM
Jun 2020

These guys are beyond deranged.

I read Rogers' "manifesto" on the day of his rampage. It was supposed to be the tale of how he came to his so-called "views", but it was a nonstop pathetic whine. Whenever he was gently nudged outside his comfort zone, like being told to go play with the kids down the street of finding out the family was going on a trip overseas to visit relatives, he completely lost his shit and threw tantrums. Predictably, he served these up as injustices done to him.

He expected things to just fall into his lap (and "beautiful women" were one of those things). He thought he could win the lottery by just wanting it hard enough.

He wasn't even rejected by women -- there was no sign in there that he'd actually asked anyone out.

Journeyman

(15,031 posts)
29. My thought precisely: Mental illness is a terrible burden . . .
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 05:31 PM
Jun 2020

and those who ridicule or demean him for his illness are little better than he.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
34. I don't see anything in the article suggesting he had mental illness.
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 05:47 PM
Jun 2020

Clearly he knew right from wrong because he claimed he got his injuries from a lawnmower accident.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
35. Some dysfunction is evidenced by the behavior.
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 05:50 PM
Jun 2020

I'd imagine most would agree he desperately needed the help of mental health professionals, and society needed him to get it.

I imagine the FBI is checking his entire social media connections. Surveillance has found that most potentially violent disaffected types associate with various elements of the white (male) power movement.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
27. "I will not back down I will not be afraid"
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 05:17 PM
Jun 2020

And when I fuck up, I will concoct a ridiculous story about a lawnmower accident.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,470 posts)
28. What an ugly little twerp
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 05:27 PM
Jun 2020

If they want to hurt women, because they can't handle rejection,maybe they need it all cut off. Stop the testosterone.Then they won't be oversexed annoyances anymore and they might be able to get over themselves and grow the fuck up. Quit being wastes of skin..

usajumpedtheshark

(672 posts)
31. Looks kinda like a before/after meth poster
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 05:32 PM
Jun 2020

This what explosives will do to you if you are really, really lucky not to kill yourself

The phrase, I would give up my left hand to be ambidextrous, is a joke; not a commandment

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
46. Yeah. Sort of like a man producing the anti-Christ.
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 07:35 PM
Jun 2020

Who wants to take a chance on a person that guy fathers?

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
48. This guy was a danger to all, he already had convictions for explosives...
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 02:10 AM
Jun 2020

going into a mall. He must be doped up in the mug shot picture......for such serious injuries.

He is a domestic terrorist.



 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
51. Keep in mind...
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 03:47 AM
Jun 2020

that incels are a faction of the alt-right. They are big fans of an increased patriarchal society to put it mildly. They favor things like forced marriage, legalization of rape, revocation of most female rights, etc. Many of them argue that the government should provide them wives (virgin wives to be exact). Many of them advocate for lowering the legal age to consent to ~12 so that they can take child brides. Themes of misogyny, geneticism, racism, classism, and fascism in their ideologies.

I've actually spent a lot of time reading through their most popular message boards because I think they are a significant threat to public safety. They idolize violence, particularly violence against women. Honestly I think these guys are much more likely to be responsible for any significant acts of violence as opposed to neo-nazis, sovereign citizens, or militia movement types.

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