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The two faces of Lindsey Graham. (Original Post) Doodley Jun 2020 OP
I think it must be more than just the threat of being outed drray23 Jun 2020 #1
Perhaps Russian money? PJMcK Jun 2020 #4
yes but is it worth destroying your life over it? I dont think so. drray23 Jun 2020 #5
actually tens of millions care if you are gay, people of all religions, ethnicities, races msongs Jun 2020 #7
So correct! But Lindsey propagates homophobia and oppression of people just like him Miigwech Jun 2020 #10
Yes of course I did not mean to ignore the plight of many LGBT people drray23 Jun 2020 #14
me too...way more... stillcool Jun 2020 #12
I don't know about that... SergeStorms Jun 2020 #13
I think many of the younger generations are indifferent to that. drray23 Jun 2020 #15
I've said before hat I think Lindsey has himself LuvNewcastle Jun 2020 #17
Maybe it involves the threat of pain that prisoners at the Gulag Archipelago diva77 Jun 2020 #18
"I mean nowadays, nobody cares if you are gay or not." Mariana Jun 2020 #23
Its false for us peons. drray23 Jun 2020 #26
To some people who have built a life on a lie, the humiliation of being exposed would be Doodley Jun 2020 #29
Trump has something on him. nt doc03 Jun 2020 #2
Gosh, I don't know (wink) PJMcK Jun 2020 #3
With the "news items" that have come out in the past few days leftieNanner Jun 2020 #6
BUT DID HE 1099 THE CALL BOYS? That's how they all go down, tax evasion ;-) BamaRefugee Jun 2020 #8
Lindsey must go! oasis Jun 2020 #9
He is being threatened Bev54 Jun 2020 #11
If he was smart he would get ahead of it drray23 Jun 2020 #27
I got outed I_UndergroundPanther Jun 2020 #16
That's horrifying. Real Dark Ages snakepit shit. Hekate Jun 2020 #19
God, that's awful. Ilsa Jun 2020 #20
I pressed charges I_UndergroundPanther Jun 2020 #21
I'm glad you pressed charges, and I Ilsa Jun 2020 #22
Thanks. It gets a little bit better I_UndergroundPanther Jun 2020 #24
As a recovered victim Ilsa Jun 2020 #25
I am sorry you went through all that. Doodley Jun 2020 #28

drray23

(7,627 posts)
1. I think it must be more than just the threat of being outed
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 05:28 PM
Jun 2020

I mean nowadays, nobody cares if you are gay or not. Amongst the many things I disagree with Graham for, being gay is not one.,

It is surprising that he went from opponent to full trumper if its just because of this. There must be even more.

PJMcK

(22,031 posts)
4. Perhaps Russian money?
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 05:32 PM
Jun 2020

Of course, in South Carolina, Lady G's personal life might not go over well with those Republican voters.

drray23

(7,627 posts)
5. yes but is it worth destroying your life over it? I dont think so.
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 05:35 PM
Jun 2020

If he had come out ahead of Trump triying to blackmail him two yearrs ago he would have defused the situation. Its likely many of his voters would not care, even republicans. Besides it has been suspected for years so its not like it would be a surprise to these voters.
of course russian money would be another thing but Trump is neck deep in it himself so it does not look like something he could use against Graham.

msongs

(67,395 posts)
7. actually tens of millions care if you are gay, people of all religions, ethnicities, races
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 05:40 PM
Jun 2020

in a majority of states marriage equality is undermined, ppl can be fired from jobs and kicked out of housing all perfectly legally

 

Miigwech

(3,741 posts)
10. So correct! But Lindsey propagates homophobia and oppression of people just like him
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 05:58 PM
Jun 2020

with his voting record. He needs to hide to survive in the world he currently participates in. Blackmail of closeted gay person is a real danger to our country. Are you being blackmailed Lindsey? The Russians have all the goods on all the repubs and their corruption .... they have krompomat as well as all the hacked RNC emails.

drray23

(7,627 posts)
14. Yes of course I did not mean to ignore the plight of many LGBT people
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 06:43 PM
Jun 2020

in fact many of my family members are LGBT.

What I meant is for a skilled politician, coming out should be a positive. They can use it to further educate the population.

If Graham had done that two years ago he would have removed the hold Trump has on him and probably still gotten reelected. After all, it's an open secret. Most of his voters already suspect he is gay and yet they vote for him.

Instead Graham sacrificed what remained of his principles and went full Trump. As soon as McCain passed, Trump saw the opportunity and turned Graham.


stillcool

(32,626 posts)
12. me too...way more...
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 06:04 PM
Jun 2020

He could just do like his fellow Republicans and resign to spend more time with his family, if it were a case of being outed, or anything short of criminal. The entire Republican party is complicit, it's hard to believe they are all afraid because of some minor or major faux pas. Some things I just can't rationalize.

SergeStorms

(19,193 posts)
13. I don't know about that...
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 06:34 PM
Jun 2020

"I mean nowadays, nobody cares if you are gay or not."

Republicans in the deep south still might care about that. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think they've changed that much in the past 50 years.

drray23

(7,627 posts)
15. I think many of the younger generations are indifferent to that.
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 06:46 PM
Jun 2020

besides, its pretty much known by voters in South Carolina that Graham is likely gay and yet they kept voting for him.

LuvNewcastle

(16,844 posts)
17. I've said before hat I think Lindsey has himself
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 07:13 PM
Jun 2020

a mandingo, or at least he used to. SC might forgive the gay issue, but I don't know about having a gay interracial relationship. I think that might be a bridge too far, especially if there are pictures.

diva77

(7,640 posts)
18. Maybe it involves the threat of pain that prisoners at the Gulag Archipelago
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 07:15 PM
Jun 2020

might be subjected to...

drray23

(7,627 posts)
26. Its false for us peons.
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 07:50 PM
Jun 2020

Powerful people like politicians or celebrities have the power and resources to come out and be fine. Obviously, others are still discrimated against. I think it's evolving however. Younger generations tend not to care anymore.

Doodley

(9,088 posts)
29. To some people who have built a life on a lie, the humiliation of being exposed would be
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 09:27 PM
Jun 2020

the worst imaginable thing to ever happen.

PJMcK

(22,031 posts)
3. Gosh, I don't know (wink)
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 05:31 PM
Jun 2020

Of course, in fact, everyone knows which is why this whole "secret" is kind of weird.

leftieNanner

(15,082 posts)
6. With the "news items" that have come out in the past few days
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 05:35 PM
Jun 2020

It may not be just that he's gay (who cares?), but that he has hired the "services" of young men - which is not legal.

I guess it's easier to just claim to be a single gentleman ma'am, and not have a partner. But find love in all the wrong places.

So to speak.

Bev54

(10,047 posts)
11. He is being threatened
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 06:03 PM
Jun 2020

on twitter by some porn star who says many in the sex industry know Grahams secrets and it is not just about being gay. Say he will likely be outed soon.

drray23

(7,627 posts)
27. If he was smart he would get ahead of it
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 07:56 PM
Jun 2020

and announce himself that he is gay. He is a powerful politician. He should be able to cone out and turn it into a teaching opportunity for his bigoted voters.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,463 posts)
16. I got outed
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 07:07 PM
Jun 2020

By staff on a psych unit.
The put my birth name on the board where you're nurse for the day is listed.

I begged them not to use my birth name.

When it got out I was transgender all the other patients could talk about was my gender. I told them it was none of thier business what my gender is. I got harassed by all the male patients day after day.

Than one night I got raped in my room when I went to bed to sleep.

This was not in a southern small town full of magats and evangelical twits.

It was in Baltimore City.
I dunno if putting my full birth name up there was even legal. After it happened staff would not talk to me at all. I had a safe test done by the police. It was horrible and I hate the staff for what they caused and I hate the hospital.
I had PTSD before I sought help there.
It's alot worse now

It's Mount Sinai hospital in Baltimore City. Tell people you know who are gblt to never to go there. They out gblt people and do not care what happens to them. A psych unit is supposed to be a safe place..

If Lindsey is outed he won't face what I faced. He has money. He has protection.

I say give him he'll.
He's the type of asshole who'd tell me I deserved it or caused it,and would praise those staff for what they caused.



Hekate

(90,645 posts)
19. That's horrifying. Real Dark Ages snakepit shit.
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 07:16 PM
Jun 2020

I hope your life improves every day -- may you find peace and joy abundant.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
20. God, that's awful.
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 07:24 PM
Jun 2020

I hope you were able to report staff to hospital nanagement to help protect future patients. Rape is a crime they are supoosed to protect against.

I'm so sorry you've had to live with this pain for so long. I hope you can find help or peace.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,463 posts)
21. I pressed charges
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 07:33 PM
Jun 2020

After I got out I just was out of it. Had to return to a group home staffed by abusive people. My life really sucked than.

It's somewhat better now.
Stable housing and living by myself with my sweet kitty Othello,and therapy and program has helped alot.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
22. I'm glad you pressed charges, and I
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 07:36 PM
Jun 2020

hope their negligence has caused the worst of them to leave psych nursing, hospital work, etc.

It's good to hear that your life is better and you have some love in your life. Pets are the best!

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
25. As a recovered victim
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 07:45 PM
Jun 2020

of rape, I get it. There have been times, decades later, when I get triggered, but I'm able to work through it. Time helps. Support helps.

Doodley

(9,088 posts)
28. I am sorry you went through all that.
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 09:21 PM
Jun 2020

I can only imagine the anger, the disillusionment and distrust that I would feel if I was treated so badly. But be assured there are many more people that would welcome you with open arms for who you are.

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