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TEB

(12,827 posts)
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 09:32 AM Jun 2020

So my evangelical trump supporting bro asked me if I got paid by George soros

So I called him to see if he wanted to hook up to swim this afternoon with his grandkids or step grandkids not sure how that works. He finds it aggravating that I and four vet friends went to support Mr Floyd’s memory and his family and others who have had police violence delivered upon them. He was like what would have happened if it went violent.

I replied no the police were not violent. He informed me these protesters breaking up public property and looting is a sin. I responded Christ broke up the temple with the money changers and kicked their asses. Now there is a dude I’d like to protest with.

We Wore our unit t shirts and hats and went and protested for 3 hours other day. He informed me I should be getting a check from George. Although I forgot to make a sign my one friend made one. That read I can’t breathe.

I said bro I protested pro bono. He hung up the phone. I guess he will not be hooking up with us. At noon to swim at the quarry I told him we put up a new rope to swing off of.

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So my evangelical trump supporting bro asked me if I got paid by George soros (Original Post) TEB Jun 2020 OP
Good for you! Ohiogal Jun 2020 #1
This reads like New Yorker poem Bobstandard Jun 2020 #18
A while ago cyclonefence Jun 2020 #2
Man, swimming in the quarry with a new rope swing. panader0 Jun 2020 #3
If you lived close TEB Jun 2020 #12
how that works- kin of the heart mopinko Jun 2020 #4
How much money do they think Soros has? Lol Blue_playwright Jun 2020 #5
I wish he would send some my way. sellitman Jun 2020 #6
You're a true patriot, TEB. catbyte Jun 2020 #7
Absolutely TEB Jun 2020 #10
When people make the Soros crack rpannier Jun 2020 #8
That was a wonderful response... Freedomofspeech Jun 2020 #9
I would have told him, Chainfire Jun 2020 #11
does he know who George Soros is? agingdem Jun 2020 #13
Amongst that type in my family you've got that right. KentuckyWoman Jun 2020 #32
I know you are much too nice a person to say this, but Ferrets are Cool Jun 2020 #14
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2020 #20
Hope you enjoy your day democrank Jun 2020 #15
Tell him, yeah, I got $1200 direct deposited in my bank account. tanyev Jun 2020 #16
I was thinking along the lines of a salary of $2,000 per week. He apparently has endless money. 😂 TheBlackAdder Jun 2020 #43
I would cut off any trump cultist in my family. mwb970 Jun 2020 #17
From My Studies of Christian History and Origins panfluteman Jun 2020 #19
Interesting! Talk about unintended consequences 🙂 MLAA Jun 2020 #24
Imagine that St Paul had twitter. jaxexpat Jun 2020 #31
That's what empires do, they co-opt threats to their power. yardwork Jun 2020 #37
Robert Eisenman has a very intriguing theory that Paul enabled the co-opting by Rome. tanyev Jun 2020 #40
It's ONLY the Koch Bros who fund protests. (Think tea party idiots) SaveOurDemocracy Jun 2020 #21
Could have said yes, and then ask your bro Politicub Jun 2020 #22
I love this post and this whole thread. yardwork Jun 2020 #35
Once someone goes full-on Soros, might as well have Politicub Jun 2020 #38
I have a neighbor who believes all the Soros bullshit that he's been fed. Progressive Jones Jun 2020 #23
Life is too short for stupid. paleotn Jun 2020 #25
A true man of principle, protesting for free! 💕💕 MLAA Jun 2020 #26
I haven't talked to my evilgelical brother in years so don't need to hear that religious nutjob crap yaesu Jun 2020 #27
the Hungarian dictator uses Soros as the enemy of the people, has posters all over the cities yaesu Jun 2020 #28
I stopped caring about him at "evangelical"...I simply read that as "hopelessly bigoted hypocrite" Moostache Jun 2020 #29
Sorry to tell you there was no violence, pal. keithbvadu2 Jun 2020 #30
If he wants to know whose running things... orwell Jun 2020 #33
"Now there is a dude I'd like to protest with." yardwork Jun 2020 #34
"Whenever we go to a bar with him after a protest, George always buys a pitcher" struggle4progress Jun 2020 #36
Jesus protesting keithbvadu2 Jun 2020 #39
What a great bunch of responses. He knows somewhere inside he's being cruel. nolabear Jun 2020 #41
I'm sorry your brother is lost to incoherent propaganda jimlup Jun 2020 #42
I've been waiting for , and could dearly use, my alleged paycheck from Soros herding cats Jun 2020 #44
That seems to be the meme used by the right wingers Rhiannon12866 Jun 2020 #45
They like to forget all the big things Jesus did. roamer65 Jun 2020 #46
"I said bro I protested pro bono. He hung up the phone." TEB I think I love you & your choco lab. Hekate Jun 2020 #47
DO THEY NOT REALIZE THAT.... blakstoneranger Jun 2020 #48

cyclonefence

(4,483 posts)
2. A while ago
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 09:39 AM
Jun 2020

somebody made a fake website where you could sign up to be on the Soros payroll for protesting and described all the benefits (vision, dental--it was great!). It was taken seriously by the RWers (of course) and taken down because the right was using it as evidence. And I didn't have a chance to sign up!

And good for you for protesting--I know you're in pretty red territory.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
3. Man, swimming in the quarry with a new rope swing.
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 09:39 AM
Jun 2020

I wish I didn't live so far away. That sounds like a lot of fun.
Sorry about your brother. And thanks for hitting the streets.

TEB

(12,827 posts)
12. If you lived close
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 09:54 AM
Jun 2020

You would be invited we need many hands to help put the chocolate lab load on the infallible raft.

mopinko

(70,020 posts)
4. how that works- kin of the heart
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 09:40 AM
Jun 2020

are just kin. no qualifier necessary to anyone who doesnt know your blood family tree.
just "of the heart" is all you need for those who have a good reason to question.
those who have a bad reason, the proper response is- fu.

catbyte

(34,336 posts)
7. You're a true patriot, TEB.
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 09:46 AM
Jun 2020

Will the boog be swimming with you? Ah, the smell of wet dog on a summer's day... I hope you all have a terrific day.

rpannier

(24,328 posts)
8. When people make the Soros crack
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 09:46 AM
Jun 2020

I tell them, "Of course I am getting Soros money. It paid for my pool. And I was left money by Saul Alinsky."

KentuckyWoman

(6,679 posts)
32. Amongst that type in my family you've got that right.
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 12:43 PM
Jun 2020

They just whip out "Soros" like Clorox or Coke because they see it on their favorite "anti-everyone else - us against them" website.


Ferrets are Cool

(21,103 posts)
14. I know you are much too nice a person to say this, but
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 10:18 AM
Jun 2020

I would have been tempted to say "No, no check from Mr Soros, but I have been getting screwed over regularly for the last 3 1/2 years by your pResident.

Response to Ferrets are Cool (Reply #14)

tanyev

(42,518 posts)
16. Tell him, yeah, I got $1200 direct deposited in my bank account.
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 10:47 AM
Jun 2020

A few days later a letter arrived from Trump taking credit for it.

TheBlackAdder

(28,167 posts)
43. I was thinking along the lines of a salary of $2,000 per week. He apparently has endless money. 😂
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 10:11 PM
Jun 2020

.

The only way you get to these people is agreeing with an asinine amount of money, which would show him the fool.

.

mwb970

(11,346 posts)
17. I would cut off any trump cultist in my family.
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 11:08 AM
Jun 2020

Life is too short to deal with that. They are unreachable in any case.

panfluteman

(2,062 posts)
19. From My Studies of Christian History and Origins
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 11:21 AM
Jun 2020

It seems to me that the original Jesus movement (not the later Christian church that Paul founded) was primarily a Messianic resistance movement against Rome. It is one of the great ironies of history that the same spiritual revolutionary who rose up against Rome, Jesus Christ, would have his spiritual and religious regeneration movement - regeneration of Judaism, that is - co-opted by the very empire he rose up against.

jaxexpat

(6,803 posts)
31. Imagine that St Paul had twitter.
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 12:34 PM
Jun 2020

Or an AOL account. stpaul@apostle.org

The Romans would really hate that.

yardwork

(61,539 posts)
37. That's what empires do, they co-opt threats to their power.
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 01:15 PM
Jun 2020

The Roman Empire was very good at co-opting cultures and movements. That's why it was so successful for so long.

tanyev

(42,518 posts)
40. Robert Eisenman has a very intriguing theory that Paul enabled the co-opting by Rome.
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 02:07 PM
Jun 2020
THERE are materials in the New Testament, early Church literature, Rabbinic literature, and Josephus which point to some connection between Paul and so-called "Herodians." These materials provide valuable insight into problems related to Paul's origins, his Roman citizenship, the power he conspicuously wields in Jerusalem when still a young man, and the "Herodian" thrust of his doctrines (and as a consequence those of the New Testament) envisioning a community in which both Greeks and Jews would enjoy equal promises and privileges.

NOT ONLY only is Paul's pro-Roman and by extension pro-Herodian political philosophy clear from the general tenor of his missionary activities in Acts, it is made explicit in the enunciation of this philosophy in Rom 13. A more anti-Zealot position is difficult to imagine. Setting forth what can only be thought of as a deliberate contradiction of the "Zealot" political position on almost every point, including the tax question, overseas rulers, armed resistance, etc., it is also anti-Jamesian, e.g., "he who does good works has nothing to fear from magistrates" (13:4). Jas 2:6 states the opposite position: "is it not the Rich who are always dragging you before the courts"? The Book of Acts portrays Paul as speaking felicitously on several occasions at some length with many of the above dramatis personae while in Caesarea (the subject of additional contacts in Rome is not treated by our documents). At one point Paul is pictured as saying to Agrippa in the presence of the fornicator and future apostate Bernice, "I know that you believe." King Agrippa, nothing loath, replies, "a little more and you would have made me a Christian"; then he good-naturedly pronounces the judgment, which via the miracle of art has been assimilated into the portrait of Jesus in the Gospels, "this man has done nothing to deserve death or imprisonment" (Acts 26:27-32).

It is not very likely that Paul could have made the miraculous escapes he does without the involvement of some combination of these powerful Herodian/Roman forces. Nothing less is conceivable under the circumstances of the attack on Paul in the Temple and his rescue by Roman soldiers witnessing these events from the Fortress of Antonia (Acts 21:31f). This episode, too, makes mention of a nephew and possibly a sister of Paul (identities otherwise unknown) resident in Jerusalem, but also presumably carrying Roman citizenship. It is they who warn him of a plot by "zealots for the Law" or others interested in Nazirite oath procedures to kill him. Without this kind of intervention, Paul could never have enjoyed the comfortable protective custody he does in Caesarea and never been packed off in relative security to Rome (where Felix and Drusilla precede him). He arrives with funds gathered in overseas fund-raising from many of the areas into which Herodians have expanded and, in part because of this, those areas where circumcision had become such an issue because of the marital practices of Herodian princesses.

But where Paul is concerned, one can go even further. Paul speaks in an unguarded moment in Rom 16:11 of his "kinsman Herodion." Though the name could refer to any person by this name anywhere, still names like Herod and its derivatives (n.b. the parallel with the name of Caesar's son Caesarion) are not common. Nor is there any indication that the passage is an interpolation. If it were indicative of actual familial relationships with Herodians, which in my view it is, then by itself it explains the hint of Herodian membership and/or activity in the early Christian community in Antioch. It also very easily explains the matter of Paul's Roman citizenship, which is such an important element in these escapes. In turn, it helps explain why Paul is always so convinced of his own Jewishness, while others seem to have misgivings concerning it, and it throws much light on the peculiar manner in which he chooses to exercise this Judaism. Paul's claim to being of the tribe of Benjamin may relate to a general genre of such claims in the Diaspora, but it also illustrates the superficial ease with which such claims could be passed off on credulous and relatively unschooled audiences. It is more likely that Paul derives the claim to Benjaminite birth not from any actual genealogical link, but from the simple fact of his Hebrew namesake "Saul" being from the tribe of Benjamin.

https://depts.drew.edu/jhc/eisenman.html

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
22. Could have said yes, and then ask your bro
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 11:30 AM
Jun 2020

for more money than Soros is paying you. He will need to understand that it doesn’t mean you will apply your political control skills and prowess to Trump, but you will cut off contact with Soros.

On edit: don’t forget to tell him about the secret Soros newsletter and dark web site. It will drive him bananas. If he asks what’s on the site, tell him that you get previews of Q content one week before it is posted so the team can give feedback and edits.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
38. Once someone goes full-on Soros, might as well have
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 01:19 PM
Jun 2020

some fun with it. And try to entertain yourself when you’re with them.

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
23. I have a neighbor who believes all the Soros bullshit that he's been fed.
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 11:34 AM
Jun 2020

So does his dishonorably discharged former Marine son.

The son told me he was going to print up white t-shirts with the word "Vigilante"
on them, so "we can go downtown and stop the looters". He also claims that he put a sign in his front lawn
warning looters that he "Shoots First, and Asks Questions Later". I'll take a spin past his house and see. If he did put up such a sign, I will bet that at least one word is mis-spelled.

To my knowledge, dishonorably discharged military members are prohibited from having firearms, but I could be wrong.

There were about 8 stores hit by "looters" across our city of 150,000.
Police have attributed all incidents to a local street gang as robberies, not rioting looters.
Security videos have supported this.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
27. I haven't talked to my evilgelical brother in years so don't need to hear that religious nutjob crap
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 12:08 PM
Jun 2020

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
28. the Hungarian dictator uses Soros as the enemy of the people, has posters all over the cities
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 12:11 PM
Jun 2020

stating how Soro's is ruining their lives. Its the same Nazi playbook that the GOP & tRump are using.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
29. I stopped caring about him at "evangelical"...I simply read that as "hopelessly bigoted hypocrite"
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 12:12 PM
Jun 2020

My family has its own wing of religious fundie nut bags and I give them absolutely no peace when I am within ear shot of them. They are bigots, hate-filled drones of a seriously sick persuasion.

They are the problem, not the solution.

You are kinder than I, kudos sir.

keithbvadu2

(36,667 posts)
30. Sorry to tell you there was no violence, pal.
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 12:16 PM
Jun 2020

Sorry to tell you there was no violence, pal.

No Trump supporters showed up with their spray paint, Molotov cocktails, or guns, pretending to be protesters.

https://imgur.com/gallery/E1Ik0Ra

https://imgur.com/gallery/6a8JxK7

orwell

(7,769 posts)
33. If he wants to know whose running things...
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 01:09 PM
Jun 2020

...have him look up Robert Mercer.

Robert Mercer is the "rich guy" who is really running things.

George Soros is a myth.

Robert Mercer is the real deal.

He is why your "bro" believes the Soros lie.

yardwork

(61,539 posts)
34. "Now there is a dude I'd like to protest with."
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 01:11 PM
Jun 2020

And I would be proud to be at a protest with you, TEB.

nolabear

(41,933 posts)
41. What a great bunch of responses. He knows somewhere inside he's being cruel.
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 02:09 PM
Jun 2020

He can justify his political views all he wants but not letting him rope you into rageful responses takes the fuel from his determination that you’re evil and deceptive. I appreciate that as a way of responding.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
42. I'm sorry your brother is lost to incoherent propaganda
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 09:56 PM
Jun 2020

Glad my brothers see the world the same way that I do.

herding cats

(19,558 posts)
44. I've been waiting for , and could dearly use, my alleged paycheck from Soros
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 10:17 PM
Jun 2020

I just keep asking the fools who say such to me, how do I keep being missed? They have nothing.

Idiots all around me and not one independent thought amongst the lot of them.

Rhiannon12866

(204,779 posts)
45. That seems to be the meme used by the right wingers
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 03:17 AM
Jun 2020

When I went to a protest in the nearby small city last year (against putting "kids in cages" ) a few hundred people showed up - including seven I saw that I knew and I found out afterwards that a nearby DUer was there as well, so it was definitely local. There was a handful representing the MAGA crowd and they were the ones who caused trouble, stopping traffic and shouting through a megaphone. And one lady who I spoke with said exactly what your Trump-supporting bro said - she told me that the MAGA group was accusing us of having been bused in from New York City and being paid by George Soros...

roamer65

(36,744 posts)
46. They like to forget all the big things Jesus did.
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 03:46 AM
Jun 2020

Like kicking the moneychangers off the temple steps, feeding the hungry with fishes and loaves, healing the sick, helping the poor.

Doesn’t fit their bullshit version of Christianity.

Hekate

(90,560 posts)
47. "I said bro I protested pro bono. He hung up the phone." TEB I think I love you & your choco lab.
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 05:37 AM
Jun 2020

Pro bono!

 

blakstoneranger

(333 posts)
48. DO THEY NOT REALIZE THAT....
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 07:59 AM
Jun 2020

the george soros line is just a made up conspiracy theory put forth by right wing media. What really gets me is that we put a man in the supreme court who is a right wing media conspiracy nut--bret kavenaugh. It amazes me how many people believe this crap.

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