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The Atlantic: The Trump Regime Is Beginning to Topple (Original Post) Swede Jun 2020 OP
Thanks. Looks like it offers a larger, contextual perspective, Hortensis Jun 2020 #1
I didn't tell you this, but... Swede Jun 2020 #3
Really? I'll try that for sure, but they seem to know me. Hortensis Jun 2020 #4
It works with all of them. Swede Jun 2020 #5
I also just pulled up Foer's article on Putin stealing this election, Hortensis Jun 2020 #10
Cookie AutoDelete can help you manage them without having to think about it every time. crickets Jun 2020 #8
:) Just downloaded! Thanks, Crickets. Hortensis Jun 2020 #11
You're welcome! I love that little add-on. Enjoy! nt crickets Jun 2020 #12
I always make sure I clear the tracking info before I forward a link. However there are new trackers erronis Jun 2020 #21
"can't delete that tracking string without breaking the URL" crickets Jun 2020 #28
NYT has been proven blatantly corrupt in helping elect Trump, Hortensis Jun 2020 #30
Use Firefox containers tinrobot Jun 2020 #27
My son will tell me how, thanks. I know Firefox is here somewhere. :) Hortensis Jun 2020 #29
Great post. safeinOhio Jun 2020 #2
Four paragraphs for those without access Maeve Jun 2020 #6
Trump regime begins to fall OutfWatr Jun 2020 #7
Wow. I've got a dream. BComplex Jun 2020 #14
The Murdoch "empire" will crumble without hate and fear mongering as its platform. erronis Jun 2020 #22
From your keyboard to God's ears. BComplex Jun 2020 #25
+1 2naSalit Jun 2020 #19
This Because.... zentrum Jun 2020 #20
Yep malaise Jun 2020 #9
Excellent article. Now if only more US oligarchs would quietly slink away from trump... nt crickets Jun 2020 #13
Wouldn't it be awesome if such a rebellion was possible in China and Russia. BComplex Jun 2020 #15
Another key paragraph DeminPennswoods Jun 2020 #16
Finally - Ive been saying all along the problem is the enablers not the despot himself. Theres Kashkakat v.2.0 Jun 2020 #17
Ive been meaning to subscribe to this and a couple other publications - do you actually get a Kashkakat v.2.0 Jun 2020 #18
PLEASE subscribe to at least SOME of the media that is on our side, they can't continue to inform us BamaRefugee Jun 2020 #23
this Kali Jun 2020 #24
You're right. I do subscribe to WaPo and have been considering a couple of others crickets Jun 2020 #26
I wanna see a fucking flaming heap of wreckage Blue Owl Jun 2020 #31

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
1. Thanks. Looks like it offers a larger, contextual perspective,
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 11:10 AM
Jun 2020

which I can really use right now. Happily I haven't run through my "free" articles for this month yet.

(A subscription has been on my gift wish list so long it's probably hidden under years of virtual dust.)

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
4. Really? I'll try that for sure, but they seem to know me.
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 11:21 AM
Jun 2020

Incognito doesn't work. Maybe because I've had subscriptions in the past.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
10. I also just pulled up Foer's article on Putin stealing this election,
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 11:52 AM
Jun 2020

"well on his way to," which I didn't get to read when it came out. Atlantic now says I still have 3 more articles, so I'll try that once I'm blocked.

I really do appreciate those subscription magazines that allow some free access each month now that we've joined the "fixed income" demo.

crickets

(25,962 posts)
8. Cookie AutoDelete can help you manage them without having to think about it every time.
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 11:49 AM
Jun 2020

There's a version for Chrome and Firefox.

eta - Also FYI, the links you use and save help track you a bit too, with the information tacked on the end. Everything from the '?' onward can be deleted, leaving just the web address.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/06/how-regime-change-happens/612739/

None of this is necessary. 👇 It's just basic analytics info.
?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share&fbclid=IwAR3GtOjUusMFI2fkws8SIZeFJUNw2ACUrGSCd7-B2xwBZsDQzn8QJQi4aMo

erronis

(15,241 posts)
21. I always make sure I clear the tracking info before I forward a link. However there are new trackers
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 02:00 PM
Jun 2020

that actually embed the tracking data (usually a multi-character string) in the actual URL. You can't delete that tracking string without breaking the URL - it won't be resolved. Cats and mouses.

However, I have gladly subscribed to The Atlantic since it has had the most in-depth articles on world and US politics. My NYT subscription will be canceled to make up for the new charge. After the NYT published senator cotton-mouth's piece it pushed me over the edge. Lots of good reporting but lots of favoritism.

crickets

(25,962 posts)
28. "can't delete that tracking string without breaking the URL"
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 02:34 PM
Jun 2020

I've noticed some sites have started doing that. I don't think it's right, but I don't know what can be done about it. Online privacy laws that might cover this kind of thing, especially in the US, just never seem to be good enough.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
30. NYT has been proven blatantly corrupt in helping elect Trump,
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 02:52 PM
Jun 2020

other Repubs, defeat Democrats. Their Halloween 2016 article -- days before the election -- effectively declaring the FBI had found nothing to Trump-Russia and implying it was wrapping up is merely the most notorious incident in a very sordid, betraying history.

I cancelled and since then it's been a series of cancellings in disgust and, as big doings heat up, accepting super-discount offers. Now we're on the final run to the election, and I hope to cancel for good once our new president is sworn in. Dean Baquet's continuing as executive editor all by itself shows the goal is still to keep Repubs in power, no matter what they're doing to our nation.

tinrobot

(10,895 posts)
27. Use Firefox containers
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 02:34 PM
Jun 2020

Each container has a separate set of cookies.

When you run out of articles on the first container, just open in the next container to restart the count.

Maeve

(42,281 posts)
6. Four paragraphs for those without access
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 11:26 AM
Jun 2020
Twitter’s decision to label Trump’s posts as misleading was a hinge moment. For years, the company had provided the president with a platform for propaganda and a mechanism for cowing his enemies, a fact that long irked both critics outside Twitter and employees within. Only when Trump used Twitter to threaten violence against the protests did the company finally limit the ability of users to see or share a tweet.

Once Twitter applied its rules to Trump—and received accolades for its decision—it inadvertently set a precedent. The company had stood strong against the bully, and showed that there was little price to pay for the choice. A large swath of S&P 500 companies soon calculated that it was better to stand in solidarity with the protests, rather than wait for their employees to angrily pressure them to act.

A cycle of noncooperation was set in motion. Local governments were the next layer of the elite to buck Trump’s commands. After the president insisted that governors “dominate” the streets on his behalf, they roundly refused to escalate their response. Indeed, New York and Virginia rebuffed a federal request to send National Guard troops to Washington, D.C.* Even the suburb of Arlington, Virginia, pulled its police that had been loaned to control the crowd in Lafayette Square.

As each group of elites refused Trump, it became harder for the next to comply in good conscience. In Sharp’s taxonomy, the autocrat’s grasp on power depends entirely on the allegiance of the armed forces. When the armed forces withhold cooperation, the dictator is finished. Of course, the U.S. is far more democratic than the regimes Sharp studied and doesn’t fit his taxonomy neatly. But on Wednesday, the president’s very own secretary of defense explicitly rejected Trump’s threat to deploy active-duty military officers to American streets. It’s among the most striking instances of an official bucking a president in recent decades.

OutfWatr

(19 posts)
7. Trump regime begins to fall
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 11:42 AM
Jun 2020

As companies declare their support for BLM, we will hold them accountable. It is not supportive to be making any campaign contributions to the GOP. Rand Paul is holding up the lynching law. Moscow Mitch is holding up tons of legislation. It is not supportive to be buying ad time on FOX network. Bring down the entire Koch, RW, GOP machine and destroy white supremacists.

BComplex

(8,042 posts)
14. Wow. I've got a dream.
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 12:20 PM
Jun 2020

Wouldn't that be awesome!

"Bring down the entire Koch, RW, GOP machine and destroy white supremacists. "

erronis

(15,241 posts)
22. The Murdoch "empire" will crumble without hate and fear mongering as its platform.
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 02:07 PM
Jun 2020

mercers, devos/prince, thiel - all need to find shelter somewhere way off-shore. Hope they don't need to start cannibalism to stay alive.......

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
20. This Because....
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 01:57 PM
Jun 2020

….the companies, for the most part, don't mean it. It's window dressing for them.

BComplex

(8,042 posts)
15. Wouldn't it be awesome if such a rebellion was possible in China and Russia.
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 12:21 PM
Jun 2020

I'm afraid the russians like their government more than the people of most authoritarian regimes, however.

On edit: I'm afraid North Korea is too far gone.

DeminPennswoods

(15,278 posts)
16. Another key paragraph
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 12:22 PM
Jun 2020
Sharp’s foundational insight is embedded in an aphorism: “Obedience is at the heart of political power.” A dictator doesn’t maintain power on his own; he relies on individuals and institutions to carry out his orders. A successful democratic revolution prods these enablers to stop obeying. It makes them ashamed of their complicity and fearful of the social and economic costs of continued collaboration.

Sharp posited that revolutionaries should focus first on the regime’s softest underbelly: the media, the business elites, and the police. The allegiance of individuals in the outer circle of power is thin and rooted in fear. By standing strong in the face of armed suppression, protesters can supply examples of courage that inspire functionaries to stop carrying out orders, or as Sharp put it, to “withhold cooperation.” Each instance of resistance provides the model for further resistance. As the isolation of the dictators grows—as the inner circles of power join the outer circle in withholding cooperation—the regime crumbles.


Kashkakat v.2.0

(1,752 posts)
17. Finally - Ive been saying all along the problem is the enablers not the despot himself. Theres
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 12:38 PM
Jun 2020

always been wanna be dictators, its the enablers that make it happen and its they who can make it stop.

I think it would help matters if we ourselves, the public, would stop being so fixated on Trump. Look at this forum - even here its all Trump, all the time. Yeah we need historians to record what his ten thousand stupid tweets a day are saying, but why does it need to be inflicted on the public?

Kashkakat v.2.0

(1,752 posts)
18. Ive been meaning to subscribe to this and a couple other publications - do you actually get a
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 12:43 PM
Jun 2020

magazine in the mail? Id really love that!

BamaRefugee

(3,483 posts)
23. PLEASE subscribe to at least SOME of the media that is on our side, they can't continue to inform us
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 02:09 PM
Jun 2020

FOR FREE.
We can't afford to lose them.

Pay for as many as you can afford, maybe others can take up the slack when they pay for outlets that you need to read but can't afford.

crickets

(25,962 posts)
26. You're right. I do subscribe to WaPo and have been considering a couple of others
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 02:31 PM
Jun 2020

including the Atlantic. Their coverage of various issues has been consistently good.

Blue Owl

(50,349 posts)
31. I wanna see a fucking flaming heap of wreckage
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 10:13 PM
Jun 2020

with a charred, disoriented Donny on top of the festering pile...

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