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G_j

(40,366 posts)
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 11:55 AM Jun 2020

Trump in a shouting match with a top Pentagon official

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-demanded-10000-troops-be-deployed-to-quell-protests-reports-2020-6

Trump got into a shouting match with a top Pentagon official after demanding 10,000 troops be deployed to the streets to quell George Floyd protests, according to reports

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At a heated Oval Office meeting on Monday, President Donald Trump demanded that 10,000 soldiers be deployed to the streets of Washington DC to quell anti-racism protests, according to multiple reports.

However top Pentagon officials Mark Esper, the defense secretary, and Mark Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and Attorney General Bill Barr, all resisted the request, a top administration official told ABC News.

Milley was involved in a "shouting match" with the president over the request, a senior military official told the New Yorker, telling Trump, "I'm not doing that. That's for law enforcement." The president eventually backed down.

The White House disputed the account. Chief of staff Mark Meadows told the publication, "there was no shouting match, in terms of any directions or any operational decision that was made."

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Trump in a shouting match with a top Pentagon official (Original Post) G_j Jun 2020 OP
Was Mark Meadows born without a spine or was it dissolved by Trump venom? rurallib Jun 2020 #1
Meadows is in the mollusk family. He doesn't need a spine. n/t Eyeball_Kid Jun 2020 #4
Great quip! RestoreAmerica2020 Jun 2020 #17
Are you sure he was born? paleotn Jun 2020 #18
It must be interesting to have a job Mr.Bill Jun 2020 #19
I've heard that Trump has made MrsMatt Jun 2020 #20
Well...since Meadows cleared it all up...I'm good with it. CincyDem Jun 2020 #2
"That was not shouting, Yonnie3 Jun 2020 #3
He used his BBF to shield his racism, but when Drumpf attacked said friend... Marcuse Jun 2020 #32
So Milley "dominated" the Oval Office? fierywoman Jun 2020 #5
winner. BamaRefugee Jun 2020 #22
I wish we had video of this SoonerPride Jun 2020 #6
Apparently the military is taking their oath seriously. roamer65 Jun 2020 #7
My Nasty Cynical Suspicion smb Jun 2020 #8
If only... (n/t) PJMcK Jun 2020 #13
So that's why Milley dawned fatigues ... GeorgeGist Jun 2020 #9
One thing stopped Trump from getting those 10,000. no_hypocrisy Jun 2020 #10
Who ever ordered the Choppers Wellstone ruled Jun 2020 #11
THIS malaise Jun 2020 #15
Wow. Someone actually standing up to Trump. PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 2020 #12
Does Trump scream at everyone? PJMcK Jun 2020 #14
Yes, babies scream all the time, especially when their diapers are dirty KS Toronado Jun 2020 #28
He really is a piece of shit, isn't he? louis-t Jun 2020 #16
He should have beat the shit out of donnie....the weasel wimp. spanone Jun 2020 #21
He is barely able to contain his rage during press conferences. Grammy23 Jun 2020 #23
Only the "best" material at the trials. jaxexpat Jun 2020 #26
Actually they're probably saving it for use in a plea bargain. cstanleytech Jun 2020 #29
Shitler is pulling 9,500 troops from Germany; maybe he wants to redeploy them to DC? What a tyrant! OMGWTF Jun 2020 #24
Are they really against the use of troops or MarcA Jun 2020 #25
"I'm not doing that. That's for law enforcement." In what way is that quote unclear? Jedi Guy Jun 2020 #30
Esper said not Now, but he did not rule out it's use. MarcA Jun 2020 #33
Translation is they didn't want to go to jail for breaking the law which is what Trump wanted to do. cstanleytech Jun 2020 #27
I love howMeadows qualified his denial Gore1FL Jun 2020 #31
Translation: There was a shouting match, and Trump backed down... JHB Jun 2020 #34
Fuck the WH "disputing" anything. Cha Jun 2020 #35
Barr going against Trump is laughable nakocal Jun 2020 #36
That's pretty scary zak247 Jun 2020 #37
Yeah well we know the truth jimlup Jun 2020 #38
What no one mentions... Xolodno Jun 2020 #39

Yonnie3

(17,431 posts)
3. "That was not shouting,
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 12:02 PM
Jun 2020

that was his normal voice used to instruct staff," Chief Staff Enabler Mark Meadows told the publication.

Marcuse

(7,479 posts)
32. He used his BBF to shield his racism, but when Drumpf attacked said friend...
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 03:04 PM
Jun 2020

rather than similarly defending Elijah Cummings in session for the record, Meadows tardily and indirectly responded via a weak text to Frothy.


Mark Meadows breaks his silence on Trump's attacks on Cummings in text to CNN commentator

[link:https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/29/politics/mark-meadows-elijah-cummings-donald-trump/index.html|

smb

(3,471 posts)
8. My Nasty Cynical Suspicion
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 12:12 PM
Jun 2020

Some of the smarter Republicans have figured out that the best chance to save what's left of their party is for one of Tweetolini's tantrums to end with a popped blood vessel.

no_hypocrisy

(46,080 posts)
10. One thing stopped Trump from getting those 10,000.
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 12:20 PM
Jun 2020

There were too many of them saying no to him. He couldn't fire all of them.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
11. Who ever ordered the Choppers
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 12:26 PM
Jun 2020

will stand at Trial next year. These violations of use of force against civilians will not go away. And those in Command who carried those orders will also pay the price.

PJMcK

(22,031 posts)
14. Does Trump scream at everyone?
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 01:32 PM
Jun 2020

In many profiles of him I've read that he is extremely abusive and insulting.

I'll never understand why anyone would want to have anything to do with him.

Trump is stupid and disgusting.

He's also an idiot.

louis-t

(23,292 posts)
16. He really is a piece of shit, isn't he?
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 01:47 PM
Jun 2020

He really thinks he knows better than everyone else about everything. What a loser.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
23. He is barely able to contain his rage during press conferences.
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 02:21 PM
Jun 2020

But he does keep it simmering in the background since he is keenly aware of the cameras. He doesn’t want to show his true colors so he rarely does more than grimace and pop off smart ass insults. So the asshat can control how and where he uses his rage attacks. I just wish some clever staffer would get him in full meltdown to show the truth. I suspect some have but they’re saving the best material for the trials.

jaxexpat

(6,818 posts)
26. Only the "best" material at the trials.
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 02:44 PM
Jun 2020

Pre-purchased ad time for them? Best spot investment since the dot-com bubble.

OMGWTF

(3,951 posts)
24. Shitler is pulling 9,500 troops from Germany; maybe he wants to redeploy them to DC? What a tyrant!
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 02:40 PM
Jun 2020

MarcA

(2,195 posts)
25. Are they really against the use of troops or
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 02:40 PM
Jun 2020

are they saying drumph was going too far too soon? Would there be people and groups
they are in favor of using troops against? Remember MacArthur and the Bonus Marchers?
What if drumph's goons rebel after he is voted out?

Jedi Guy

(3,185 posts)
30. "I'm not doing that. That's for law enforcement." In what way is that quote unclear?
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 03:01 PM
Jun 2020

He didn't say, "I'm not doing that right now, it's too soon." He flatly stated that he wasn't going to do it, period.

Who are "drumph's goons" exactly? The same military leadership that just told him no?

Why would they rebel after he's voted out? Given the number of retired senior military folks who are coming out against his handling of the protests, it doesn't sound like they're all that keen on Dolt 45 at the moment, if they ever were.

MarcA

(2,195 posts)
33. Esper said not Now, but he did not rule out it's use.
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 03:14 PM
Jun 2020

His full statement is in the print media and recorded on video. drumph's goons are
his unhinged supporters and lone wolves.

Gore1FL

(21,127 posts)
31. I love howMeadows qualified his denial
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 03:02 PM
Jun 2020

"there was no shouting match, in terms of...

When you limit the things that there were no shouting matches about, it's a good admission that there was a shouting match.

JHB

(37,158 posts)
34. Translation: There was a shouting match, and Trump backed down...
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 03:16 PM
Jun 2020

...with his tail between his legs.

nakocal

(551 posts)
36. Barr going against Trump is laughable
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 08:11 PM
Jun 2020

Barr may have been there, but I do not believe that he spoke out against Trump.

 

zak247

(251 posts)
37. That's pretty scary
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 08:17 PM
Jun 2020

Trump is the lowest, craziest president in history.

We are in peril with this fool in the WH.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
38. Yeah well we know the truth
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 11:47 PM
Jun 2020

it doesn't matter what their cover-up propaganda is. We know that for what it is.

Xolodno

(6,390 posts)
39. What no one mentions...
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 12:25 AM
Jun 2020

...the Pentagon essentially refused orders from the Commander in Chief.

Freepers and many other dumbshits believe with absolute religion the US forces will salute and follow orders and shoot against their own people, just to own the "libs".

it never occurred to them, that they respect the Constitution first. Even with the disagreement in politics...are you willing to shoot your liberal sister/brother?....or your fellow trooper, who also happens to be liberal?

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