If he is facing a sound defeat, chickenshit trump may drop out

[SoonerPride]

Faced with certain defeat, say in early October, and the polls show him losing badly trump has three options

He might try to stop the election on the pretext of some emergency, resurgent covid pandemic, mail in ballot fraud, or starting a nuclear war. Of course he can’t postpone the election on his own as many point out repeatedly that elections are run by the states. But if he could persuade or threaten enough republicans run states to postpone their elections he could assure Biden couldn’t get enough electoral college votes from the Democratic states to get to 270. This seems like a long shot. But plausible.

Or

He could do nothing prior to the election and try to fight the results in court and in the streets. He could incite his MAGA “army” of gun nuts to swarm to DC to protect him and kill any opposing protestors. This seems likely but is doomed to fail. The upper brass of the Pentagon has already told him this week that he’s not using their troops to kill Americans and his MAGA horde isn’t going to fight the army who mobilizes to remove him from power. Unless it is agonizingly close SCOTUS won’t save him either.

Or

He may drop out. He can’t face LOSING but may try to save face and come up with some medical excuse and say “I’m having heart trouble and I’m dropping out.” This would fit his pattern of being a chickenshit and coward. The last thing on earth he could accept is losing. If he knows he’s going to lose in November and can’t strong arm his way to stay in power he is most likely to cut and run.

He may just bail on the Republican Party 4 weeks before the election.

You heard it here first.

[Kali]

1. not sure his ego could stand "admitting" a health problem

but if they can come up with some kind of excuse I agree, and could see him quitting.

[malaise]

7. Which humiliation is worse to him - faking illness or finally admitting it or

losing bigly?

I'll take losing for $2,000!

[Kali]

11. hard to say, he sure hates humiliation in general

maybe we will get lucky and the dilemma will cause some kind of arterial rupture.

[malaise]

14. Don't tease

[Kali]

15. LOL

[sheshe2]

39. Welp.

He could say that he is going to spend time with his family, due to a severe medical condition after Malaria had a second kidney surgery and it did not go well. Her kidneys now are as bloated as his ass.

Just a thought.

[malaise]

40. After 18,000 lies that wouldn't pass

the smell test

[Blue Owl]

25. Sad Sack has bad back

n/t

[TheBlackAdder]

61. He sleeps well draft dodging with bone spurs.

[secondwind]

2. It's his only option.... President Pence can pardon him..

BUT NY Attorney General is still waiting in the wings..............

[Skittles]

3. he will try to start a foreign war

yup

[SoonerPride]

10. I still think he may try to lob nukes at Iran

One or ten.

Just because he is a psychopath.

And once that started who knows if Russia would reply in kind because why not?

I’m terrified of that.

[Skittles]

23. yes

look at how he's managing these crises

imagine him starting a nuclear issue or handling a nuclear crisis

November still feels very far away.

[ProfessorGAC]

4. Wishful Thinking

I share your desire to have him end this nightmare himself.
But, the race is the only part of the gig he likes.
He's not going to drop out while the only part he enjoys is ongoing.
Even if he's on his way to getting trounced, he'll count on some dirty tricks to get it close enough to steal.

[SoonerPride]

8. Maybe. I thought so when it was closer

I figured he’d fight and run to the bitter end.
And if he lost he’d scream and whine and refuse to leave.

But when I heard of the shouting match with generals I think he realized he’s not going to have the army keep him in power.

That changed my thinking. I think he will bail out and run away.

Because above all else he is a coward

[ProfessorGAC]

27. Your Reasons Make Sense, But...

...I'm not sure that such a conclusion applies when there's a malignant narcissist in the equation.

[SoonerPride]

48. I've known a person with NPD

And that leads me to think he may try to run away.

Having to face a humiliating public loss would be more than he could take.

I mean he literally would lose his mind.

So he may cut and run

[ProfessorGAC]

50. I Get You!

And that too makes sense.
But, he's already setting the rationalization for losing. "It's rigged"
His face saving mechanism is already in place.
If he loses, he was cheated blah, blah, blah.
I hope you're right. I really do. But, I just don't see it.

[malaise]

5. I've been saying that for ages and I'm not the only DUer to post it

It is nice to hear

[SoonerPride]

9. GMTA

[leftieNanner]

6. These are all options he would put on the table

The only problem with his dropping out is he still needs to get outta Dodge because of those delicious indictments waiting for him as soon as he leaves the White House. He knows they all have teeth and he won't have Billy Barr fixing things for him. Whether he loses or he drops out, he will need to get away or face the first serious consequences he has ever had to deal with in his life.

It's all very scary for us.

And yet, I look forward to the day when his miserable fraudulent life catches up with him.

[fierywoman]

12. Or he might pay an MD to write a note that says he has bone spurs.

[SoonerPride]

21. Hahahahaha

[Patterson]

31. They'll metastasize.

[Arkansas Granny]

13. If he decides to drop out, he will declare victory first and claim that he has done more

for humanity than anyone else in the history of the world.

[SoonerPride]

17. Oh but of course.

He may say I have already accomplished everything and my work here is done.

Hell he says that shit NOW!

[ZZenith]

16. Or, they fake an assassination and use it as a pretext for martial law.

That’s my prediction. The church visit was a dry run.

[SoonerPride]

19. I don't doubt martial law is in the offing

I fully expect it

[LisaL]

18. Don't count on it.

[C_U_L8R]

20. Or he could just leave.

Using his remaining months to stuff his pockets and pardon his family and co-conspirators. Using the proceeds (and dumb investor dollars) to start the Trump Channel to feed his needy fragile ego... which, sooner than later, will follow the same lackluster fate as Trump Steaks, Trump Air, Trump University and the Trump Presidency.

[SoonerPride]

22. I thought for a long time he would flee to Russia

Board his personal 747 in the dead of night and flee to Russia.

Problem is Putin has no use for him out of power and he’d fall from a hotel window in a tragic accident within a week

[llashram]

24. all this and

I think d.trump is our Jim Jones POTUS. After the conventions, we shall see, Aug. SEPT. OCT. what kind of trouble we are in. Overnight in 2016, we went from class to crass, so I do so hope Joe Biden and his advisors pick well. I do prefer a woman this time.

[spanone]

26. He would bomb people first.

[intrepidity]

28. "You heard it here first." Well...

I posted this thread on March 11 and was ridiculed:

I predict Trump will resign before October

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Could be sooner, much sooner. He will walk away and leave this mess in Pence's lap.

Bookmark it.

ETA: It's disheartening to see so many in this thread who are assuming a "business-as-usual" backdrop to this prediction and our near-term future. I foresee massive disruption to our country from covid19, exacerbated by the critical delay in response, which has pivoted us from potential containment to merely mitigation. Disruption is a huge key factor.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213073946

[SoonerPride]

30. Oooof. My bad. GMTA!

[intrepidity]

32. Heh, no worries, gmta indeed

[Kablooie]

29. No way he'll quit.

He has a lot more at stake than ego.

There are many lawsuits ready to go in January after he loses the protection of the presidency. Many are criminal felonies and could result in jail time.

If he remains president the statute of limitations will be exceeded by the time he leaves office so the cases will be dropped.

He's going to fight tooth and nail to remain president.
He will use every trick his minions can think up, legal and illegal, to confuse and obfuscate the election results.

[cwydro]

33. Nah.

Doubt that.

[CanonRay]

34. He's so nuts, it's hard to tell what he'll do

Even money on dropping out or staging a coup when he loses.

[essme]

35. You heard it here second

I have written this before

I fully expect him to drop out in the Fall. I also think that he is in horrible financial trouble-- so, broke plus being the most hated man in the US probably does cause enough stress for heart problems.

[Golden Raisin]

36. If the last HORRIFYING 3.5 years have taught me

anything, it is not to rely on old norms and that anything can happen (and probably will.) November is a LONG way away. I'm not counting any chickens and expecting only the worst from Trump & Co. I sincerely hope I am wrong.

[TheCowsCameHome]

37. I just want him to drop...

..right in in his tracks.

[SoonerPride]

44. I keep sticking pins in my trump doll

Surely that’ll work. Eventually.

[sarisataka]

38. This takes me back

To the heady days of 2016. We were marching to the bank with a bag full of victory that was 100% guaranteed.

The only question was would our candidate be able to reach 500 Electoral votes, or could we dare hope, the first 50 state and DC sweep.

After all, he never wanted to be President anyway.

[SoonerPride]

43. Shudder

Don’t make me relive that nightmare

That dark passage won’t repeat itself this time.

Biden isn’t a woman. I fully expect sexism played a huge part in why Hillary Clinton “lost”

That and Russian AND CIA I interference.

Trump drew an inside straight and that won’t happen again

God I hope not.

[qazplm135]

41. none of the above

he won't drop out because he will only allow people to tell him he's going to win.
He can't do the other things.

So, he will lose. Then he will whine and complain and threaten but no one will pay much attention because he's a lame duck loser.

[SMC22307]

42. People also said early on he'd get bored and quit.

Dumb.

[SoonerPride]

45. He did quit. He quit pretending like he was working long ago

He stays upstairs until noon watching tv and tweeting

And spends nights at rallies and weekends golfing.

This pandemic really messed up his routine.

[SMC22307]

49. Nonsense. He's dismantling this country...

doen't matter whether his fat orange ass is lounging in bed or planted behind the Resolute desk. You know he wants Nepotism Barbie as the first female president -- you think he's going to give up the power of that office?

[marie999]

46. Trump will not do anything. The election will go on as planned.

If he loses the election, he will whine and tweet, and on January 20, 2021, he will pack his bags and leave. The Republicans will not do anything to help him.

[BannonsLiver]

47. What's more likely

Is that if he is beaten soundly and has no real play to hold on to power he will resign and pence will pardon him for any federal crimes he may have committed while in office. I don’t think he quits until he gets something tangible out of it.

[tikka]

51. Traitor45's term and Pence's will end on Jan 20, 2021 per the 20th Admendment

Although they will challenge his removal in the Supreme Court, they wouldn't have standing in the court case after that date would he? Would the newly designated Speaker of the House become President?
It seems a major disaster, war, or political shenanigan before the election or before the Electoral College votes that would cause a major shift in favor of them being re-elected. As of now, it doesn't look like they have the political capital to stay.

[BadGimp]

52. NO CHANCE he drops out.

[SoonerPride]

53. Of that I have no doubt. But the generals told him no

So I think his secret hope of commandeering the army to stay in power is gone.

Without muscle to fight for him he may run away.

It’s probably just a fever dream.

But let me dream anyway!

[brooklynite]

54. Answer: no, no and no...

1) As you point out, he can’t cancel what are State elections; but neither can he block Biden by getting Republican States to change the rules, because those States doh’t matter. He could try to block voting in Republican States that Biden wants to EXPAND to, but if Biden holds Clinton’s States, all he needs are PA, MI and WI...which now have Democratic Governors.

2) Sorry, but conspiracy theories like this are both meaningless and inconsequential. For everyone challenging police violence, consider how powerful police forces and National Guard troops are. Even a Republican state wouldn’t let Trump supporters run rampant.

3) for Trump to drop out, he would have to accept the reality of his losing, which is inconsistent with his narcissism, and be willing to claim that he was “weak” in some way. Won’t happen.

[SoonerPride]

55. Look at the EC map with Dem controlled states

Biden gets 236 EC votes not 270

[brooklynite]

56. Always check your math before submitting your exam...

Add PA, MD, DC, CT and RI to the Democratic tally (at s minimum)

[not_the_one]

57. He has the Saudis on speed dial for a reason.

If he loses and refuses to leave, he will die. The military will not protect him. And his dog, Toto, too. (metaphorically speaking)

If he loses and stays in this country, he will be jailed. (ditto Toto...)

He and Jared have been grooming the Saudis for just such a scenario.

[Wounded Bear]

58. Well, he could use the "wanna spend more time with the family" ploy...

[SoonerPride]

59. "I need to help tutor, um, whats his name again? Oh yeah Barron.

Or is it Baron? I can never get that right.”

[Lock him up.]

60. Or...

He could plot with his puppetma$ter putin (or vlad could suggest to him) Russia shooting a "fake" missile and NORAD intercepting it at a predetermined location in the air, so dRumph could then brag about "saving millions of US lives" ...

The Russian mob wants him back for life (to destroy the US, NATO, and everything Obama did).

I'm posting this for, buckle up. They will try anything. Be prepared and tell people not to fall for any Russian "fake" aggression, if any!

Lock him up!