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Mitt Romney Joins Black Lives Matter Protesters! (Original Post) UncleTomsEvilBrother Jun 2020 OP
Hokey Smokes Bullwinkle! leftieNanner Jun 2020 #1
The 47% man malaise Jun 2020 #2
Not too crazy about the guy, but good for him. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2020 #5
That is true malaise Jun 2020 #6
Romney isn't an evangelical; he's a Mormon, The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2020 #14
The 1000 protesters were mostly evangelicals. From the tweet: tblue37 Jun 2020 #20
There is a movement of liberal evangelicals, which to me is a kind of oxymoron, The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2020 #48
The name evangelical has been coopted exboyfil Jun 2020 #53
This is true. The ELCA is a bunch of crazed antifa radicals compared to the Southern Baptists. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2020 #55
My church. Very liberal or me and my family would not belong to it. efhmc Jun 2020 #57
My dear friend Betty, who introduced me to DU, used to say that she was something the fundies niyad Jun 2020 #106
coonservative evangelical is the real oxymoron soldierant Jun 2020 #115
Sigh...Utah is still showing a positive 11 net approval of the Idiot on MorningConsult onetexan Jun 2020 #69
Pretty soon, so many will be rebuking him that.. mvd Jun 2020 #86
Bet he does leftieNanner Jun 2020 #9
ROFL for the prom dress malaise Jun 2020 #10
I have a vivid memory of her leftieNanner Jun 2020 #13
I remember - will never forget malaise Jun 2020 #22
He'd be a fucking hero if he ran as a write in against Trump to split the R vote PTWB Jun 2020 #47
He may just do that malaise Jun 2020 #49
He owes Trump major payback. nt NCjack Jun 2020 #79
I know. Can't forget that 47% speech. Wish we had more Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2020 #67
I give him points for voting to remove the Con malaise Jun 2020 #73
I believe the same thing ... Auggie Jun 2020 #78
Yes, we can respect what he is doing right now PatSeg Jun 2020 #74
That's great. But he still killed Mom & Pop and has his sights set on Social Security. SMC22307 Jun 2020 #3
I posted about him and Social Security just this past week Omaha Steve Jun 2020 #38
Yep! (n/t) SMC22307 Jun 2020 #118
This message was self-deleted by its author Omaha Steve Jun 2020 #39
Mitt responds to why he's marching... UncleTomsEvilBrother Jun 2020 #4
Mittens has always been into "sport." lindysalsagal Jun 2020 #7
One of his children adopted a Black child. The child is always in "family" Blue_true Jun 2020 #66
Are you sure the grandchild wasn't kept in a rooftop carrier, along with the dog? erronis Jun 2020 #72
It is always possible to make up stuff about people, I will stay Blue_true Jun 2020 #80
Well said. I also wish everyone to have a healthy and wealthy family. erronis Jun 2020 #83
I 100% agree with that last sentence. I believe that we make society stronger when Blue_true Jun 2020 #88
The dog story was captured by a journalist when the dog hurled all over him lindysalsagal Jun 2020 #105
How long until Agent Orange rage tweets about it? nt bbernardini Jun 2020 #8
In THREE . . . TWO . . . ONE . . . LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jun 2020 #116
He is positioning in case the orange one quits redstatebluegirl Jun 2020 #11
Anything to have Trump out. TheCowsCameHome Jun 2020 #16
I agree that Trump needs to go leftieNanner Jun 2020 #26
This exactly. Squinch Jun 2020 #18
This doesn't make much sense since the GOP base is racist JI7 Jun 2020 #36
We wanted to run against Trump last time too. Chemisse Jun 2020 #40
Trump replaced by Romney: MINIMAL loss of hardcore Trumpers means a Dem landslide! tableturner Jun 2020 #63
Or for 2024 if the Republicans jettison (or pretend to jettison) Trumpism after a 2020 thumping. gulliver Jun 2020 #84
45 is not going anywhere Cosmocat Jun 2020 #109
He is what I would call republicans "Classic" SoonerPride Jun 2020 #12
His father marched for civil rights. His mother met with Dr king. grantcart Jun 2020 #15
People don't realize this FreeState Jun 2020 #30
George Romney was the real deal and grantcart Jun 2020 #77
Thank you! That's super interesting and good to know renate Jun 2020 #91
Even Goldwater would be a moderate today. Which is insane. NYC Liberal Jun 2020 #95
Thank you! Lucinda Jun 2020 #99
Thanks, grant. People forget these things unless reminded from time to time. Hekate Jun 2020 #33
George Romney, as governor of Michigan, was actually a Republican I could live with. NBachers Jun 2020 #70
I worked for another, Dan Evans in WA state. They are all gone now. grantcart Jun 2020 #81
Come on Mitt! anamnua Jun 2020 #17
Better yet, start a new conservative party. If you believe in those "conservative" principles" erronis Jun 2020 #76
Mitt and the Never Trumpers are preparing for a civil war in the party grantcart Jun 2020 #82
The fat orange one will really blow his top - guaranteed. TheCowsCameHome Jun 2020 #19
I think people have to understand that morality isn't a solid block qazplm135 Jun 2020 #21
This chia Jun 2020 #24
Yes. milestogo Jun 2020 #27
Meanwhile Trump could eat a live puppy on camera qazplm135 Jun 2020 #31
He was a reasonable Governor of Massachusetts AdamGG Jun 2020 #42
Just wait; a write in campaign OR a contested convention. He's NOT SayItLoud Jun 2020 #23
He's earned 1 respect point from me awesomerwb1 Jun 2020 #25
that's not Mittens dweller Jun 2020 #28
Scramble for the right side of history. paleotn Jun 2020 #29
when it's safe! KG Jun 2020 #32
Good. elleng Jun 2020 #34
During the Great Recession, Mitt and friends had decided how they'd split up the destitute Karadeniz Jun 2020 #35
Mitt and Lisa Murkowski should switch parties AdamGG Jun 2020 #37
Agree! Actually surprised many haven't switched. Like Republicans Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2020 #71
Voted to Convict Trump during Impeachment. Alex4Martinez Jun 2020 #41
MAN, it's gotta be hot as hell marching with that Magic Underwear on. But good for him. I don't know BamaRefugee Jun 2020 #43
His dad was a good egg nevergiveup Jun 2020 #44
I think he is marching with Mormans Frances Jun 2020 #45
PR stunt. call us when his voting record matches his words nt msongs Jun 2020 #46
Sometimes PR stunts matter democrattotheend Jun 2020 #59
Another hole in the defensive wall ... UpInArms Jun 2020 #50
you can count on Mitt... stillcool Jun 2020 #51
I'm not going to complain or criticize. Yes, Romney sucks in many ways, but he's a Repug spitting in scarletwoman Jun 2020 #52
"Black Lives Matter" -- Mitt Romney Gothmog Jun 2020 #54
I have always thought there was a possibility of a Romney white knight exboyfil Jun 2020 #56
It's a start. Emphasis on "start", as in as in "turned the key and started the motor" JHB Jun 2020 #58
We can all march luv2fly Jun 2020 #60
Credit where it's due mcar Jun 2020 #61
this could only add... dhill926 Jun 2020 #62
didnt see this coming! kudos to romney! AlexSFCA Jun 2020 #64
KR Cha Jun 2020 #65
That's very nice Mitt, but you should have primaried Trump IronLionZion Jun 2020 #68
He an write in still malaise Jun 2020 #75
Because, as much as I disliked Romney mountain grammy Jun 2020 #85
Switch to the Democratic Party Mitt!!!! samsingh Jun 2020 #87
Mitt may yet be the Republican nominee for President in 2020 bucolic_frolic Jun 2020 #89
I doubt they'll ditch Trump Sapient Donkey Jun 2020 #107
honestly--this one surprised me in a good way SiliconValley_Dem Jun 2020 #90
Grateful but.. Hip2bSquare Jun 2020 #92
He wants to be President soooo bad. I gotta admit, this is a very good political move. C Moon Jun 2020 #93
If he really supports BLM... zentrum Jun 2020 #94
A few comments over at Freeperville about this Kaleva Jun 2020 #96
This tweet says it all for me DrToast Jun 2020 #97
Awesome. Lucinda Jun 2020 #98
Thank you, Mr. Romney ecstatic Jun 2020 #100
I refuse to become totally cynical. GulfCoast66 Jun 2020 #101
Mitt's trying to push Trump over the edge. nt oasis Jun 2020 #102
I will admit to hating Mitt in '12 jimlup Jun 2020 #103
Compared to the one we have now, all the previous/other ones LisaL Jun 2020 #108
Damn Sugarcoated Jun 2020 #104
Thanks for the historic details on George Romney. northoftheborder Jun 2020 #110
Mitt is old enough to have believed that blacks were not fit for full membership in the church. keithbvadu2 Jun 2020 #111
Good for him. I'm dismayed by all the negative comments about a very positive gesture by Romney. George II Jun 2020 #112
There were a lot more negative comments about Romney when he ran against Obama JonLP24 Jun 2020 #113
Pair Mitt's initiative with Steve Schmidt's warning GOP may lose Senate bucolic_frolic Jun 2020 #114
I will still not vote for him. n/t OneCrazyDiamond Jun 2020 #117

leftieNanner

(15,084 posts)
1. Hokey Smokes Bullwinkle!
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 05:42 PM
Jun 2020

Mitt Romney marching??

I still hate his policies - trying to destroy Social Security and Medicare - but I have more respect for him now.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,683 posts)
14. Romney isn't an evangelical; he's a Mormon,
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 05:56 PM
Jun 2020

which is a whole 'nother breed of religious cat. A lot of Christians, both evangelicals and mainstream Christians, consider Mormons to be heretics - and their theology really is pretty weird, even for Christian (or Christian-ish) theology in general (Joseph Smith was probably a huckster like Scientology's L. Ron Hubbard). To their credit, and as seriously weird as they are, Mormons aren't into the hellfire and damnation angle like the fundie megachurches, and many of them have become skeptical of Trump's wicked ways.

tblue37

(65,340 posts)
20. The 1000 protesters were mostly evangelicals. From the tweet:
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 06:03 PM
Jun 2020

". . . with about 1000 mostly evangelical protesters."

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,683 posts)
48. There is a movement of liberal evangelicals, which to me is a kind of oxymoron,
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 06:31 PM
Jun 2020

but they exist. They reject the religious right's emphasis on social issues like abortion and homosexuality, preferring to emphasize the actual teachings of Jesus (who never mentioned abortion or homosexuality). I would bet that those folks, and not the megachurch fundies and Falwellians, were the ones marching with Mitt, and they are likely to forgive his heresy under the circumstances.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
53. The name evangelical has been coopted
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 06:51 PM
Jun 2020

It means good news. Lots of mainline Protestant churches have it in their name. Even relatively liberal church bodies like the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America have it in their name. ELCA performs same sex marriages and supports the ordination of individuals in same sex relationships.

niyad

(113,279 posts)
106. My dear friend Betty, who introduced me to DU, used to say that she was something the fundies
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 12:33 AM
Jun 2020

hated, a leftwing evangelical. The parish of which she was a member was one that actually followed the teachings of that liberal guy, Jesus. They were a truly loving and spiritual group.

soldierant

(6,857 posts)
115. coonservative evangelical is the real oxymoron
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 01:35 PM
Jun 2020

"Evangel" is Greel for "Gospel" which is Old English for "good news," and it is supposed to be transformative. That is far from "conservative. " "Liberal doesn't exactly describe it either, but it's much closer.

onetexan

(13,037 posts)
69. Sigh...Utah is still showing a positive 11 net approval of the Idiot on MorningConsult
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 07:24 PM
Jun 2020
https://morningconsult.com/tracking-trump-2/

Hopefully with Mitt coming out publicly he will not support the Idiot's reelection, more Mormons will follow his lead and vote the Idiot out in the fall.

mvd

(65,173 posts)
86. Pretty soon, so many will be rebuking him that..
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 08:02 PM
Jun 2020

He won’t be able to keep up with his rage tweets. Good for Romney - wish he would support other measures that help equality.

leftieNanner

(15,084 posts)
9. Bet he does
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 05:48 PM
Jun 2020

Ann still has her prom dress in the closet from 2012 when she believed the Fox News hype that they were going to win (per Dick Morris) in a landslide.

The problem for us would be if he somehow became the nominee (even though the MAGAts HATE him for his Senate vote) - he might pull it off. Doubt Ass Face would step down for him though.

leftieNanner

(15,084 posts)
13. I have a vivid memory of her
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 05:55 PM
Jun 2020

on stage on election night in the floor length dress with her blonde hair up in a "prom do". I laughed at her then. I doubt her entitled attitude has changed much.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
67. I know. Can't forget that 47% speech. Wish we had more
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 07:23 PM
Jun 2020

people like that with recorders around trump. Omarosa might have gotten some very damning stuff if she had lasted longer too.

Have to admit though, Romney, unless the best actor in the world, seems like he may have seen the light? He seems different now. But I am about 60% confident on that.

malaise

(268,967 posts)
73. I give him points for voting to remove the Con
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 07:31 PM
Jun 2020

We know that he's an opportunist but they all are and he voted correctly re removing him.

PatSeg

(47,419 posts)
74. Yes, we can respect what he is doing right now
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 07:31 PM
Jun 2020

without embracing his policies or politics. This is pretty impressive, though I would never really trust him.

Omaha Steve

(99,618 posts)
38. I posted about him and Social Security just this past week
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 06:26 PM
Jun 2020

He is trying to sneak it in when we aren't looking.

Response to SMC22307 (Reply #3)

lindysalsagal

(20,679 posts)
7. Mittens has always been into "sport."
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 05:47 PM
Jun 2020

Someone remind me when the mormons finally decided black people were'nt from the devil, after all?

Was that last week, or the week before?????

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
66. One of his children adopted a Black child. The child is always in "family"
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 07:22 PM
Jun 2020

photos with everyone else.

At the least, he is a very mixed blessing, but he does seem to have the shred of a moral core that other republicans don't have.

erronis

(15,241 posts)
72. Are you sure the grandchild wasn't kept in a rooftop carrier, along with the dog?
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 07:30 PM
Jun 2020

So many stories floating around, not sure which one to go with.

How is Bain Capital doing? Did Mittens (RMoney) get a few billions out while killing companies?

I REALLY want to like some old establishment dude but the current crop seems washed out.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
80. It is always possible to make up stuff about people, I will stay
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 07:42 PM
Jun 2020

with what I know. The grandchild seemed happy and comfortably a part of that big family.

Does that make what Romney did in regards to raiding companies right? No, not close, that is why I never want to see him hold office higher than he has now, while he has a shred of morals, that shred is very thin and untrustworthy.

erronis

(15,241 posts)
83. Well said. I also wish everyone to have a healthy and wealthy family.
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 07:57 PM
Jun 2020

My post was unnecessarily snarky.

Children deserve the best lives that we can give them.

As someone said:
"Let the children of the poor eat as well as the dogs of the rich."

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
88. I 100% agree with that last sentence. I believe that we make society stronger when
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 08:12 PM
Jun 2020

children are given good care and treated the same, regardless of wealth.

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
11. He is positioning in case the orange one quits
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 05:50 PM
Jun 2020

or is thrown out on his ear. We should fear this. We want to run against Trump.

leftieNanner

(15,084 posts)
26. I agree that Trump needs to go
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 06:14 PM
Jun 2020

But all of his Republican enablers need to be destroyed too. We don't want a "reasonable sounding" Republican to slither in and make nice. It's time to clean house!

JI7

(89,248 posts)
36. This doesn't make much sense since the GOP base is racist
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 06:22 PM
Jun 2020

Romney won the nomination in 2012 becsuse the crazies split their vote between Gingrich and santorum.

Chemisse

(30,810 posts)
40. We wanted to run against Trump last time too.
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 06:27 PM
Jun 2020

And look what happened.

I do fear a Romney run. But I fear a Trump second term far far more.

tableturner

(1,682 posts)
63. Trump replaced by Romney: MINIMAL loss of hardcore Trumpers means a Dem landslide!
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 07:10 PM
Jun 2020

Trump's hardcore supporters would have a fit, regardless of the reason for the replacement. Many of them would not turn out to vote. A split GOP loses in a landslide!

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
109. 45 is not going anywhere
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 08:02 AM
Jun 2020

until he has absolutely no say in it.

That said, he absolutely is positioning for 2024 IF Biden can win and get into office.

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
12. He is what I would call republicans "Classic"
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 05:50 PM
Jun 2020

Like Coke Classic

He’s not into the new extra crazy racist Republican Party

He’s more aligned with the Steve Schmidt crew

He might not come out and say he’s voting for Biden

But hell at this point he just might!

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
15. His father marched for civil rights. His mother met with Dr king.
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 05:56 PM
Jun 2020

Republicans were critical to passing the voters rights act

Then Nixon defeated Romney for the nomination and sold the Republican record on civil rights to a southern strategy.

History would have been much different had Romney defeated Nixon.

FreeState

(10,572 posts)
30. People don't realize this
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 06:17 PM
Jun 2020

That and he was going directly against his churches orders by marching with them. The church didn’t allow black members to go to the temple or hold the priesthood until 1978.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
77. George Romney was the real deal and
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 07:36 PM
Jun 2020



https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/08/how-george-romney-championed-civil-rights-and-challenged-his-church/261073/

Romney was one of a number of moderate and liberal Republicans who strongly supported the Civil Rights Bill of 1964 and, at the Republican Party convention, worked on behalf of efforts to include an anti-discrimination plank in the party platform. When the party's presidential nominee, Barry Goldwater, opposed the bill, Romney refused to support Goldwater's candidacy for the presidency. When asked whether he would be campaigning on behalf of Goldwater, he said (with his characteristic directness), "You know darn well I'm not."

The irony is that George Romney championed Civil Rights at a time when his church was theologically opposed to the idea of innate equality. Romney could not bring himself to condemn his church publicly (in spite of his private views) for its policy of denying the "priesthood" to black men.

In 1964, the year King won the Nobel Peace Prize, George Romney was the most powerful Mormon in American politics and was gearing up for a presidential run in 1968. The LDS hierarchy took note and worried about his positions on civil rights. Delbert L. Stapley, a high-ranking member of the LDS (who was born the year the Supreme Court ruled that segregation was constitutional and died the year the LDStroubled. "After listening to your talk on Civil Rights, I am very much concerned. Several others have expressed the same concern to me." The letter was "personal" and not an "official Church position" but it still came on letterhead that read, "The Council of the Twelve."
. . .


But just as Romney shrugged off the "curse of Ham" folklore of Stapley and other leaders of the LDS church, Martin Luther King recognized in the elder Romney a valuable political ally in the struggle, regardless of his church's policies. Their alliance seems inconceivable today, even though, since the mid-1960s, so much has changed.



In 1968 I was 14 and like Hillary Clinton in a Goldwater house. George Romney was the moderate wing of the Republican Party's hope to get the nomination. Nixon twisted Romney's views on Vietnam (Romney had used the word 'brainwashed') and his lead disappeared.

In a strange coincidence a grandson of George Romney was my classmate and when he discovered that my ancestor was Heber J Grant (the second longest serving President of the Mormon Church but someone that was never discussed in my household) he would educate me on HJG and I would tell him stories about GR and how he was supporting MLK, something that they evidently didn't share in his household.

A Romney nomination in 68 would have put is in an alternative, and much better, universe.

No Southern strategy but two political parties supporting civil rights.

renate

(13,776 posts)
91. Thank you! That's super interesting and good to know
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 08:20 PM
Jun 2020

I’m always happy (I mean this, I’m not being snarky) to hear evidence of a GOPer having good qualities. We all have to live here together, whoever’s in power, so positive information about any of them is a good thing.

NYC Liberal

(20,135 posts)
95. Even Goldwater would be a moderate today. Which is insane.
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 08:51 PM
Jun 2020

  • Goldwater viewed abortion as a matter of personal choice and as such supported abortion rights
  • in his final term voted consistently to uphold legalized abortion and in 1981 gave a speech on how he was angry about the bullying of American politicians by religious organizations, and would "fight them every step of the way"
  • After his retirement in 1987, Goldwater described the Arizona Governor Evan Mecham as "hardheaded" and called on him to resign, and two years later stated that the Republican party had been taken over by a "bunch of kooks"
  • 'When you say "radical right" today, I think of these moneymaking ventures by fellows like Pat Robertson and others who are trying to take the Republican party and make a religious organization out of it. If that ever happens, kiss politics goodbye.'
  • In response to Moral Majority founder Jerry Falwell's opposition to the nomination of Sandra Day O'Connor to the Supreme Court, of which Falwell had said, "Every good Christian should be concerned", Goldwater retorted: "Every good Christian ought to kick Falwell right in the ass."
  • He endorsed Democrat Karan English in an Arizona congressional race, urged Republicans to lay off Bill Clinton over the Whitewater scandal, and criticized the military's ban on homosexuals
  • A few years before his death, he addressed establishment Republicans by saying, "Do not associate my name with anything you do. You are extremists, and you've hurt the Republican party much more than the Democrats have."


From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Goldwater

NBachers

(17,108 posts)
70. George Romney, as governor of Michigan, was actually a Republican I could live with.
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 07:25 PM
Jun 2020

They actually used to exist, you know.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
81. I worked for another, Dan Evans in WA state. They are all gone now.
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 07:43 PM
Jun 2020

When he returned from Mexico (where his family moved to avoid "The Decree" that was - ironically - issued by my and future Senator Bennett's ancestor, against polygamy ) he had to rely on welfare to help him get started.




https://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2012/09/19/161409916/welfare-wasnt-always-a-dirty-word-in-the-romney-family

LENORE ROMNEY: "You know we've only owned our home for the last four years. He was a refugee from Mexico. He was on relief, welfare relief for the first years of his life. But this great country gave him opportunities.

erronis

(15,241 posts)
76. Better yet, start a new conservative party. If you believe in those "conservative" principles"
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 07:34 PM
Jun 2020

then base your platform on those.

Not wedge issues that Rove, Gingrich and others cooked up. Go for economic conservatism with a huge dose of social justice.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
82. Mitt and the Never Trumpers are preparing for a civil war in the party
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 07:44 PM
Jun 2020

after Trump loses in a landslide.

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
21. I think people have to understand that morality isn't a solid block
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 06:04 PM
Jun 2020

People can be very moral in one way, and very immoral in another.

Seems pretty clear that on economic issues, Romney is fairly immoral.

But on equality issues, seems like the guy is pretty solid.

So, like most humans, he's a mixed bag of bad and good.

Would never vote for him, but can appreciate that he has some decency in him.

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
31. Meanwhile Trump could eat a live puppy on camera
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 06:18 PM
Jun 2020

and his supporters would start saying how manly it is that Trump doesn't care about dogs.

AdamGG

(1,289 posts)
42. He was a reasonable Governor of Massachusetts
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 06:28 PM
Jun 2020

Granted, he had a state legislature that was 85% Democratic, so he had to work with them, but Obamacare was basically Massachusetts Romneycare.

SayItLoud

(1,702 posts)
23. Just wait; a write in campaign OR a contested convention. He's NOT
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 06:07 PM
Jun 2020

gonna wait another 4 years. Hope our side is prepared for the "I don't like Biden or tRUMP so I'll vote for Romney as a protest". tRUMP cheats in swing states, ties in Electoral votes and S Court decides once again for a RePUKE. #VoteBlue

paleotn

(17,912 posts)
29. Scramble for the right side of history.
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 06:17 PM
Jun 2020

For some anyways. Others have quadrupled down and are destined for the dustbin of history. 50 years from now, high school and college kids will point at them and snicker...."WTF was wrong with those people?!"

Karadeniz

(22,513 posts)
35. During the Great Recession, Mitt and friends had decided how they'd split up the destitute
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 06:21 PM
Jun 2020

Auto industry for their personal gain. He was opposed to the bailout. Black lives matter so much to him, he'd have left thousands unemployed.

AdamGG

(1,289 posts)
37. Mitt and Lisa Murkowski should switch parties
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 06:25 PM
Jun 2020

Doubt it will ever happen, but would be a principled move to declare themselves independents and caucus with the Democrats, at least until Trump is gone and the Republican party is less insane.

BamaRefugee

(3,483 posts)
43. MAN, it's gotta be hot as hell marching with that Magic Underwear on. But good for him. I don't know
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 06:30 PM
Jun 2020

about black Mormons but I do know there are LOTS of Pacific Islanders who are Mormon.

nevergiveup

(4,759 posts)
44. His dad was a good egg
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 06:30 PM
Jun 2020

and quite progressive on civil rights so I reckon Mitt inherited at least a few good genes. He voted to impeach Trump and now he is marching for racial justice so for the moment I am not going to look a gift horse in the mouth. Every little bit helps and there is the added bonus that this will drive Trump crazy.

Frances

(8,545 posts)
45. I think he is marching with Mormans
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 06:30 PM
Jun 2020

Mormons are divided into wards the way Catholics are divided into parishes
And another post says they marched from a ward
There are lots of Mormons in the DC area
I did not vote for Romney but I am happy to see him marching with Mormons because I’m glad to see representatives of a large religious group standing up for black lives matter

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
59. Sometimes PR stunts matter
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 07:03 PM
Jun 2020

Having a prominent white Republican join the protests gives them additional legitimacy as a multiracial, bipartisan movement for change, and it helps to undercut those who are trying to define the protests as race riots.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
51. you can count on Mitt...
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 06:37 PM
Jun 2020

as long as it doesn't count. He's good for a vote, when he knows his vote isn't a deciding vote. I wish I could be charitable.

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
52. I'm not going to complain or criticize. Yes, Romney sucks in many ways, but he's a Repug spitting in
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 06:43 PM
Jun 2020

Trump's eyes - and to me, that's golden.

We HAVE to bring down trump in any way we can - afterward we'll sort out what's next.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
56. I have always thought there was a possibility of a Romney white knight
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 06:55 PM
Jun 2020

situation.

So will the cultists sit at home if Trump suddenly develops health problems and decides to not run for reelection? You make certain guarantees about his personal assets and the promise to derail any federal prosecution (not to mention influencing state prosecutions), and he might even buy into it.

JHB

(37,159 posts)
58. It's a start. Emphasis on "start", as in as in "turned the key and started the motor"
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 07:00 PM
Jun 2020

Whether he'll even get out of the driveway remains to be seen.

mountain grammy

(26,620 posts)
85. Because, as much as I disliked Romney
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 08:01 PM
Jun 2020

He wouldn’t have dismantled the pandemic response team. He wouldn’t have ignored the briefings in November. We wouldn’t have over 100,000 dead I know this. Romney knows this.

bucolic_frolic

(43,146 posts)
89. Mitt may yet be the Republican nominee for President in 2020
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 08:12 PM
Jun 2020

You think Senate Republicans will stick with Trump for the election?

Sapient Donkey

(1,568 posts)
107. I doubt they'll ditch Trump
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 07:56 AM
Jun 2020

As crazy it sounds, Trump somehow still has enough enthusiastic and reluctant supporters that he could win in 2020. Them putting in Romney would turn off a huge number of Trump cultists who view anyone other than Trump as an evil deep stater. I mean, that would be awesome if it did happen, but I can't see the never trumpers getting their way on this. Would be amusing to watch Trump react to that, though.

Hip2bSquare

(291 posts)
92. Grateful but..
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 08:22 PM
Jun 2020

Can I be a bit skeptical? Not to look a gift horse in the mouth, it is a great, wonderful thing for him to do, but is he positioning himself in a certain position, if not for 2024, but maybe in case the orange buffoon doesn't make it on the ticket. There are predictions that bunker boy won't make it on the ballot. Lord willing!

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
94. If he really supports BLM...
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 08:42 PM
Jun 2020

…..he'll stop talking secret deals to defend SS and Medicare.

Just because he's not a thug like Trump doesn't mean he won't mug you, like any other Repug.

Kaleva

(36,295 posts)
96. A few comments over at Freeperville about this
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 08:54 PM
Jun 2020

"Get over yourself, ya’ pathetic, lying POS."

"Romney is turning in a creepy clown."

"He never misses an opportunity to embarrass himself.
What a pathetic person."

"Romney = traitor"

"Romney is a big sissy boy."

"Scum."

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
101. I refuse to become totally cynical.
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 09:19 PM
Jun 2020

I see a white man marching while chanting Black Lives Matter. I will not criticize that.

It’s more than I have done.

And his dad was a real champion of civil rights. LBJ could not have passed his legislation with out liberal Republicans who remembered Lincoln helping him.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
103. I will admit to hating Mitt in '12
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 09:58 PM
Jun 2020

but I'm coming around. He seems to be a very much more reasonable fellow than most Reptilians these days.

northoftheborder

(7,572 posts)
110. Thanks for the historic details on George Romney.
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 09:10 AM
Jun 2020

I was alive then, but not paying attention to those kind of details. I do know there used to be reasonable, sane Republicans with whom Democrats could, and did, work with in Congress & elsewhere. Always differences in philosophy of governing, but Republicans who could collaborate to create unified progress.

Those like Mitt have been "underground" until lately, and I guess late is better than ever to show the courage of your convictions. But after Trump is gone, don't hold your breath that "reasonable Republicans" will return in droves. They are mostly in the grave.

keithbvadu2

(36,788 posts)
111. Mitt is old enough to have believed that blacks were not fit for full membership in the church.
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 09:24 AM
Jun 2020

Mitt is old enough to have believed that blacks were not fit for full membership in the church.

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=mormons+black+people+souls

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https://religionnews.com/2018/06/11/40-years-later-most-mormons-still-believe-the-racist-priesthood-temple-ban-was-gods-will/

“Blacks just weren’t spiritually ready to have the priesthood until 1978.”

This one hit the news as recently as 2012, when a BYU professor was quoted in the Washington Post as claiming that the ban was actually to the benefit of blacks, because they were not prepared for the responsibility until then. He compared the situation to a child asking for car keys before being mature enough to use them. That same month, the LDS Church issued a statement that disavowed this professor’s reasoning. (“Some explanations with respect to this matter were made in the absence of direct revelation and references to these explanations are sometimes cited in publications. These previous personal statements do not represent Church doctrine.”) But that same statement also leaned heavily upon Reason #4, which was . . .

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
113. There were a lot more negative comments about Romney when he ran against Obama
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 11:42 AM
Jun 2020

The dog on the roof story got a lot of play here. I think Romney is looking out for his future Presidential ambitions and will probably pick up a lot of votes if he does run on a national ticket again.

bucolic_frolic

(43,146 posts)
114. Pair Mitt's initiative with Steve Schmidt's warning GOP may lose Senate
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 11:55 AM
Jun 2020

See? They only care about Senate Control. That's Mitch's power center.

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