W, Romney and the generals. Take the win. Even if they are assholes. That's not the point.

[themaguffin]

It helps when THEIR people come out. All of it helps. Take it. Accept it.

It's not accepting what we disagree. It's accepting what we agree on - trump must be stopped. Period.

Accept that they at least, understand this.

Yes, they can do more. Absolutely. Yes, W was horrific as president and we are still paying for it today and will for years to come.

Romney would dismantle Social Security if he could.

That's not what this is about.

This is about defeating trump.

[still_one]

1. Thank-you for giving some the perspective they fail to grasp

[BittyJenkins]

2. I think the big first domino fell this week!

[leftieNanner]

3. I agree

But I do not want Romney to run for President! We need to drown the Republican party in their proverbial bath tub!

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

4. Exactly. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

As Winston Churchill once said, "If Hitler invaded Hell I would make at least a favourable reference to the devil in the House of Commons." And no, Kayleigh McInaney, Trump is nothing at all like Churchill.

[yellowcanine]

5. Nope, not enough. Trump needs to be stopped now.

Romney needs to declare himself an independent and caucus with the Democrats. If he leads the way others might follow.

[Demsrule86]

10. That won't happen. The chance to stop Trump ended on a dark sad November Tuesday in early November

of 2016. We just have to work on electing Biden and a Democratic Senate...and some how get through the next undoubtedly terrible months until the election and then until inauguration.

[empedocles]

11. Romney is more effective as a republicon

[yellowcanine]

14. There is no Republican Party. Only the Trump Party

To save the country and the Republican Party Romney and other like-minded Republicans must leave. They can come back once Trump is gone.

[empedocles]

22. The overwhelming consensus in this thread I agree withl

[Kashkakat v.2.0]

33. WELL YAH - thats whats going on now, rats leaving the sinking ship. Better late than

never, no? Which faction gets to use the "Republican" name after it all the dust settles remains to be seen.

[Renew Deal]

25. The only way Trump gets stopped "now" is if he blackmailed Graham

Then I think things will move pretty quickly. Otherwise, it's January 2021.

[herding cats]

29. This is Mitt Romney we're speaking of here.

Think. He's never going to anything you, or I want him to be. That's simply unrealistic on our parts. What he's doing now is helpful to save our democracy. Then, if he and his are successful, we can all live to disagree again another day.

Trump's regime is truly dangerous to all who believe in our founding fathers premises. We don't actually have to agree on implementation of acts to see how far off the tracks we all are right this moment.

[kimbutgar]

6. And just think how outraged MF45 is seeing these images

We may not like Romney and those right winger generalS but they are really getting under MF45’s skin.

And I’m ok with that!

[rateyes]

21. And isn't Romney's daughter the chair of the RNC?

Maybe there is a silent coup going on in the Republican Party.

[kimbutgar]

35. Romney's niece

[Newest Reality]

7. We need MORE of that...

Withdrawing cooperation is a powerful tool if you want to defeat a despot.

I thank and celebrate those, right now, who are willing to cut the tyrant off at the he pass by asserting themselves and signaling that they won't be complicit with someone who is a real threat to this country. We should put aside our differences and disagreements to focus on this one, powerful tool. Save them for later when we are out of harms way. Right now they are a luxury and accomplish very little.

Hats off to them and thanks!

May MORE true patriots come to the aid of their county in it's greatest need.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

8. If we lived in a parliamentary type system I think we'd understand better

Sometimes you have to build a coalition with strange bedfellows in the interest of a greater goal.

[TheCowsCameHome]

9. Priority 1 - Get. Trump. Out.

All else can wait.

[Cha]

12. I agree.. Their being "assholes" is Not the point..

Booom!

[AkFemDem]

13. YES! Now is not the time to spite-snatch defeat from the jaws of victory!

[DenverJared]

15. We need every vote we can get

If we insisted on character or ideology behind every vote, we will lose.

[BigOleDummy]

16. Exactly

And well said!

[Lucinda]

17. +1

[JI7]

18. agree, it's not like WE have to vote for them

[Gore1FL]

19. That's true.

It is important to not get into the habit of praising them, though. They don't deserve it for being right on rares occasions.

[Javaman]

20. nope, they're still assholes. where the fuck were they in 2016?

fuck them.

[Skittles]

28. agree

I'll give them some points but my basic opinion of these enablers will NOT change

[Iggo]

32. Oh, me too.

Far as I'm concerned they're two war criminals and and a vulture capitalist. (W, Powell, and Romney.)

I don't trust them as far as I can spit.

But they're heavy hitters from the other side and I'm glad they're hitting heavy right now when the country needs it.

We can't survive another four years of this.

[themaguffin]

39. Yeah, that sucks they weren't there, but every voice that helps take down trump should

be welcomed.

Again, they can be assholes. They can be wrong on everything else. What the fuck does it matter?

[Javaman]

41. because they have no credibility. just like the orange asshole.

why should I even give them an ounce of benefit when they all so thoroughly screwed this nation with wars based on lies, killing thousands of Iraqi and Afghanistani people not to mention our soldiers who died for that lie, black site tortures and the patriot act.

shall I go on?

there are plenty of other right wing nuts who aren't so damn guilty as they are that can lend a voice against the orange asshole. I prefer not to give any credence to anything war criminals say or do.

That's why.

[themaguffin]

42. Because it's not for you.

[Javaman]

43. What do you mean?

you are okay with giving war criminals a voice?

if anyone here in DU says it's okay to allow these pieces of shit a voice here on this site, please speak up.

Because they last time I checked george w moron* and his room full of dopes got in illegally because the supreme court violated the constitution and appointed him prez.

And if you are a-okay with the moron* creating a war on lies just to resolve his daddy issues, please speak up

And if you are okay with black site renditions for "enemy combatants" (a sick turn of phrase for prisoners of war) that allowed the to commit the war crime of torture, please, by all means, speak up.

again, shall i go on?

their words are worthless, less than worthless. we should not be giving them any fucking credit because it was they that lit the fuse to the bomb that is going off in our country today.

[Kaleva]

23. It's interesting that some join in with Trump in attacking those who are critical of him.

[JI7]

26. it is weird. i guess they prefer Republicans to continue behaving like McConnell

[Kaleva]

37. Yes, it's odd that some are on the same side of the line as Trump.

I say we ought to encourage Repub infighting and not attack those Repubs who are critical of Trump.

[warmfeet]

24. Defeat the orange turd first.

Other turds will be defeated later.

First things first.

[KentuckyWoman]

27. It gets a lot harder to suck out all the wealth from workers if the RNC goes down in flames.

it's all about power in the future.

[Iggo]

30. I agree, and I'm taking the win.

Not happy about it, but so fucking what.

[herding cats]

31. I'll take it, albeit begrudgingly.

I dislike most (probably all) of his stances, but he's not trying to bring on a race war, nor is he looking to dismantle the very system of our democracy.

I warned people this was where we were headed in 2016 and 2017 on here. But those who insisted on seeing things through their narrow (propaganda enhanced) lenses rebuffed my thoughts at that time. As was their right, but history shows I wasn't wrong.

We are in a deeply dark place now. Our only recourse is to freaking vote these people out and put in Democrats by a vast majority in November. If not 2021 will make 2020 look like a cakewalk in comparison.

It's in the hands of the people to fix the disaster we're currently in, and I'm not yet convinced we're wise enough to figure that out and save ourselves. Time will tell, of course, but I've been disappointed before by us as a collective.

[Kashkakat v.2.0]

34. Coalition bldg working on common goals. Thats all it is - dont have to like them. We can go back

to our regularly scheduled programing later.

Theres more than one reputable writer /observer Ive read lately who is using the F word (FASCISM) to label what would happen if Trump + Repub enablers get another four years.

[Wounded Bear]

36. I'll take the "win" of them criticizing Trump...

But I also realize that the "support" is about 1 millimeter deep.

[kentuck]

38. No! Ve vill stick vith our base!

We don't need no stinking help!

[Wednesdays]

40. Victory in politics is all about building coalitions

So,