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babylonsister

(171,029 posts)
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 07:12 AM Jun 2020

FL! ...Runs Facebook Ads Specifically Recruiting Arrested/Disciplined Police Officers Nationwide

This is my county. THIS should also be illegal.

Brevard Police Union Runs Facebook Ads Specifically Recruiting Arrested/Disciplined Police Officers Nationwide
By Lillian M. Hernández Caraballo -
June 8, 2020


In a show of solidarity, the Brevard County chapter of the Fraternal Order of Police posted a call to their Facebook page on Saturday offering to hire the officers in Buffalo, New York, and Atlanta involved in or in support of a recent streak of high-profile cases of police brutality.

The F.O.P. is the world’s largest organization of sworn law enforcement officers, with more than 330,000 members in more than 2,200 union-like labor and fraternal lodges that offer “full-service member representation.”

The post, made at 1:21 a.m., said, “Hey Buffalo 57… and Atlanta 6… we are hiring in Florida. Lower taxes, no spineless leadership, or dumb mayors rambling on at press conferences… Plus… we got your back! #lawandorderFlorida #movetowhereyouare.”

The Brevard County F.O.P. seemed to directly address the 57 police officers who willfully resigned their duties in Buffalo, New York, as a show of solidarity after two of their peers were suspended and charged for the violent shoving of a 75-year-old unarmed, peaceful man on Thursday at a rally protesting police brutality. On the video, victim Martin Gugino is seen calmly approaching the officers, when they yelled at him to get out of the way, then pushed him to the ground. Gugino laid unconscious and bleeding profusely, as several other officers stepped over him and continued walking without administering aid.

The post also called out to the six ex-police officers in Atlanta who were charged for violently arresting, assaulting, and tasing two unarmed college students, Taniyah Pilgrim and Messiah Young, on May 29. Pilgrim and Young were not protesting that evening; the officers chased them, smashed their car windows, dragged them out, and assaulted them, breaking Young’s wrist, and tasing him for hours.

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https://thespacecoastrocket.com/brevard-police-union-runs-facebook-ads-specifically-recruiting-arrested-disciplined-police-officers-nationwide/

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FL! ...Runs Facebook Ads Specifically Recruiting Arrested/Disciplined Police Officers Nationwide (Original Post) babylonsister Jun 2020 OP
Wow, just when you think you've seen it all. demmiblue Jun 2020 #1
Perfect illustration of how cops are not there to serve and protect the public Sanity Claws Jun 2020 #2
Bad apples or rotten orchards? soothsayer Jun 2020 #3
its many orchards samsingh Jun 2020 #20
Holy. Fucking. Shit. Also, keep your eyes on the WH today - Trump is meeting w/ LEO's today Dennis Donovan Jun 2020 #4
I think we can presume his underlying attitude. Harker Jun 2020 #10
"We got your back" when you beat up and murder people, Hav Jun 2020 #5
The "Plus... we got your back!" line really got to me also KS Toronado Jun 2020 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author sinkingfeeling Jun 2020 #6
Just wow. FM123 Jun 2020 #7
BCFOP doesn't hire anyone, LEs are hired by their local governments or sheriff's departments. SharonClark Jun 2020 #8
If true, then this shows how corrupt the gop are in Florida rockfordfile Jun 2020 #9
So, they intentionally recruits cops Miguelito Loveless Jun 2020 #11
This is why douchecanoes need to be decertified in addition to being fired Aviation Pro Jun 2020 #12
good call! bringthePaine Jun 2020 #24
I can see the commercial now... Sloumeau Jun 2020 #13
Unpatriotic florida Python boot Jun 2020 #14
SPLC should declare many police unions to be hate groups pecosbob Jun 2020 #15
Jackboots and red armbands, free of charge. (nt) Paladin Jun 2020 #16
LOW TAXES, EH! louzke9 Jun 2020 #17
Why not add Scarsdale Jun 2020 #18
This feels like BS to me. Their Facebook ad? JDC Jun 2020 #19
It isn't BS, it's true obamanut2012 Jun 2020 #25
Seems so inconceivable. I guess it's one more reason JDC Jun 2020 #26
See this article BumRushDaShow Jun 2020 #30
with this level of shamelessness in public samsingh Jun 2020 #22
Florida likes to hire only the worst people IronLionZion Jun 2020 #23
Oh FFS. That's where I live. CaptainTruth Jun 2020 #27
Me, too. babylonsister Jun 2020 #28
F.O.Ps do not hire police in Florida. marie999 Jun 2020 #29
It's not the FOP "hiring" BumRushDaShow Jun 2020 #31
I agree. marie999 Jun 2020 #32
You might recall 6 years ago BumRushDaShow Jun 2020 #33

Sanity Claws

(21,839 posts)
2. Perfect illustration of how cops are not there to serve and protect the public
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 07:20 AM
Jun 2020

but to serve and protect themselves.

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
4. Holy. Fucking. Shit. Also, keep your eyes on the WH today - Trump is meeting w/ LEO's today
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 07:30 AM
Jun 2020

No idea about what.

A scenario that is increasing in plausibility is one where Trump recruits / utilizes bad police officers into some sort of paramilitary force (either under Barr's DoJ or another shadow org run by Trump himself).

Another thing to watch is whether the "Green Zoning" of the WH is dismantled or not when the protests recede. If not, it means they're girding for November, when Trump loses the election.

Vigilance.

Harker

(13,957 posts)
10. I think we can presume his underlying attitude.
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 09:25 AM
Jun 2020

I haven't forgotten his ridicule of those who would protect the heads of arrestees while putting them into police cars... "please, don't be too nice."

Edited to add: Or the smiling, clapping cops behind him in the audience.

Hav

(5,969 posts)
5. "We got your back" when you beat up and murder people,
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 07:31 AM
Jun 2020

when you push the elderly to the ground until blood comes out of their ears and when you shoot rubber bullets at people in wheelchairs.
Is there any decent police union out there or are all of them like a corrupt mob sending out their thugs to brutalize the people who they are supposed to serve and protect?

KS Toronado

(17,136 posts)
21. The "Plus... we got your back!" line really got to me also
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 10:02 AM
Jun 2020

Kinda implying " we'll serve & protect you while you don't serve & protect our citizens"

Response to babylonsister (Original post)

FM123

(10,053 posts)
7. Just wow.
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 08:23 AM
Jun 2020

In Brevard of all place! Love the space coast - spent so many summers taking the kids up to Cape Canaveral or Cocoa Beach... Just can't stand the idea that they are actively seeking to grow a whole rotten police orchard up there.

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
8. BCFOP doesn't hire anyone, LEs are hired by their local governments or sheriff's departments.
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 08:46 AM
Jun 2020

From their webpage. . .
"The Brevard County Fraternal Order of Police currently has over 600 full time members, which consist of police officers, sheriff’s deputies, and other law enforcement officers within Brevard County. Though we are a fraternal, non-profit organization, contributions are not tax-deductible. I trust you will deem the many endeavors and challenges we face worthy of your continued investment. Support from concerned citizens such as yourself are crucial in our fight for superior law enforcement and safe, protected communities here in Brevard County."

I'd like to see the response of local leaders throughout Brevard County to this disgusting ad.

Miguelito Loveless

(4,451 posts)
11. So, they intentionally recruits cops
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 09:28 AM
Jun 2020

involved in illegal, violent conduct. The come and work there, then abuse/murder locals. In the ensuing criminal/civil trials what will be their defense?

Sloumeau

(2,657 posts)
13. I can see the commercial now...
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 09:31 AM
Jun 2020

"If you think you are above the law, then you belong in Brevard. Here, we *all* think that we are above the law! Do what you want--in Brevard!"

Python boot

(74 posts)
14. Unpatriotic florida
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 09:41 AM
Jun 2020

Let us not forget that during the revolutionary war, Florida was a Tory colony. Unpatriotic from the start.

louzke9

(296 posts)
17. LOW TAXES, EH!
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 09:47 AM
Jun 2020

Watch those taxes go up after having to pay out multiple large SETTLEMENTS to victims of police brutality! Just what ANY county needs....A police force of misfits!

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
18. Why not add
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 09:49 AM
Jun 2020

"Come to Florida, we have many, many old people you can push around" Tells a lot about the caliber of recruits Florida wants for their law enforcement, doesn't it?

BumRushDaShow

(128,372 posts)
30. See this article
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 12:24 PM
Jun 2020


Brevard County Fraternal Order of Police: disciplined and jailed cops should apply here

Alessandro Marazzi Sassoon and J.D. Gallop, Florida Today Published 12:05 p.m. ET June 8, 2020 | Updated 12:10 p.m. ET June 8, 2020


A Brevard chapter of the Fraternal Order of Police posted a now deleted advertisement over the weekend calling on those officers involved in violent incidents in Buffalo, NY and Atlanta, GA, to join the ranks of local police agencies, drawing howls of outrage from citizens across Florida.

"Hey Buffalo 57... and Atlanta 6... we are hiring in Florida. Lower taxes, no spineless leadership, or dumb mayors rambling on at press conferences... Plus... we got your back! #lawandorderFlorida," reads the June 6 post made at 1:21 a.m on the Brevard County F.O.P. Facebook page. The post, deleted sometime Monday morning garnered over 2,000 comment and 1,000 shares.



The Fraternal Order of Police is the largest organization of sworn law enforcement officers in the country, representing some 300,000 members across some 2,000 local "lodges." Critics say the organization is a major obstacle to policing reform through their advocacy and deep ties to police unions.

The President of the Brevard County lodge acknowledged that the post was legitimate and defended its recruiting efforts as well as the actions of the Buffalo and Atlanta police officers involved in the widely condemned incidents. Some of those officers have been arrested and face criminal charges.

https://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/2020/06/08/brevard-county-fraternal-order-police-facebook-posts-draw-ire/5317923002/

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
23. Florida likes to hire only the worst people
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 10:03 AM
Jun 2020

as a way to encourage more brutality without consequences. I guess they want the liberals living there to learn their place.

CaptainTruth

(6,572 posts)
27. Oh FFS. That's where I live.
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 11:48 AM
Jun 2020

Folks say Lieutenant Bert Gamin of the Brevard County Sheriff's Office is the admin for the page & the one who wrote posts.
 

marie999

(3,334 posts)
29. F.O.Ps do not hire police in Florida.
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 12:05 PM
Jun 2020

The Civil Service board's examiner and 2 police officers, usually a captain and a lieutenant, interview all prospective applicants. My husband was the chief examiner on the board of one Florida city. Even though he was only 1 of 3 doing the interviews, he did give 0s to some which made it impossible for them to make the list. He gave, in writing, his reasons to human resources even though no one could change his vote. He was hired, at no pay, by the mayor and the city council. He did have to take an oath of office. Of course, there can be problems even with that, but it is probably the best way to hire LEOs.

BumRushDaShow

(128,372 posts)
31. It's not the FOP "hiring"
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 12:32 PM
Jun 2020

It's the FOP putting a megaphone on their dog whistle to let corrupt cops know that the county is "recruiting" and that they can "apply" for jobs there, with assurances that the FOP will fight tooth and nail for them should they decide to give it try.

It's called "the good old boys club".

The FOPs (and notably even here in Philly - FOP Lodge 5) are the "NRA"s of the cities, with almost unlimited resources and power to make or break a locality's elected officials and governmental structure whenever the term "police reform" is even uttered. They need to be "hoist on their own petard" as the saying goes, for once and for all.

BumRushDaShow

(128,372 posts)
33. You might recall 6 years ago
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 01:31 PM
Jun 2020

the President's Task Force on 21st Century Policing that had been created by E.O. by President Obama in 2014 following the Ferguson, MO unrest after the death of Michael Brown.

The final report in 2015 is here - https://cops.usdoj.gov/pdf/taskforce/taskforce_finalreport.pdf

Aside from lots of so and so "should do this"s and so and so "should do that"s, there was money set aside for body cameras and that's probably about the only thing that came out of it. The problem even with that is the selective "use" of them by cops (deciding when to turn on or off). The FOP has pretty much blocked everything else.

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