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Yavin4

(35,438 posts)
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 10:11 AM Jun 2020

Expect the polls to narrow in the Fall.

I want to get out ahead of this. The polls will narrow the closer we get to the election. In fact, Biden's national lead in the average of polls may be within the margin of error.

The election will be decided in the 6, or so, swing states. Watch those state polls, esp. in the last two weeks.

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Expect the polls to narrow in the Fall. (Original Post) Yavin4 Jun 2020 OP
Trump's press will get better Pantagruel Jun 2020 #1
+1 Every time. n/t ffr Jun 2020 #3
Trump won't shit his pants and Van Jones will declare he became President today. RhodeIslandOne Jun 2020 #15
Facts are stubborn things. Demsrule86 Jun 2020 #18
I'm not going to be watching any polls in the last weeks. I'm going to be GOTV and voting. ffr Jun 2020 #2
My bet is that trump will keep outtrumping himself into yet deeper troubles. empedocles Jun 2020 #4
This. He can't help himself. Phoenix61 Jun 2020 #9
I agree. I think people are becoming way too overconfident. I've seen that film before. RelativelyJones Jun 2020 #5
Agree with that also empedocles Jun 2020 #13
And most who think and say these things did not support Biden in the Demsrule86 Jun 2020 #17
I take your point. I supported Biden enthusiastically during the primary, but am very wary of RelativelyJones Jun 2020 #25
I don't care about polling after 2016. redstatebluegirl Jun 2020 #6
Ain't that the damn truth! Chainfire Jun 2020 #7
+1, the polling in 2016 in swing states was abysmal and still not explained other than hiding racism uponit7771 Jun 2020 #11
The media will report that the polls are narrowing, whether they actually are or not. fleur-de-lisa Jun 2020 #8
I don't see it that way. pwb Jun 2020 #10
Yep. People are stupid. progressoid Jun 2020 #12
As both hubs and I are out of work...I hope it improves. But it isn't going to be a V shaped Demsrule86 Jun 2020 #16
I don't believe that. We are in such a mess that folks will desperately want Trump gone.... Demsrule86 Jun 2020 #14
Towards the end, fence-sitting Republicans will return to Trump. Yavin4 Jun 2020 #19
Get out in front of it... How? SlogginThroughIt Jun 2020 #20
Ahead of people freaking out that the polls are narrowing. Yavin4 Jun 2020 #24
Drumpf has his cult and most other repubs will return to the herd Bradshaw3 Jun 2020 #21
I agree. Happy Hoosier Jun 2020 #22
Five months until the election. marie999 Jun 2020 #23
 

Pantagruel

(2,580 posts)
1. Trump's press will get better
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 10:14 AM
Jun 2020

not because he deserves it but because a runaway election is bad for the media biz. A close race promotes ad spending.

ffr

(22,669 posts)
2. I'm not going to be watching any polls in the last weeks. I'm going to be GOTV and voting.
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 10:15 AM
Jun 2020

It won't matter what the polls say, I'm going to be working my ass off trying to convince reluctant voters to do their civic duty and make the small sacrifice, taking time out of their day, one day, to vote.

You can watch the polls.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
4. My bet is that trump will keep outtrumping himself into yet deeper troubles.
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 10:18 AM
Jun 2020

[May be furthered helped by trump financial revelations, court decisions, 2nd sow waves of virus, protests, and DJI, whatever].

Phoenix61

(17,003 posts)
9. This. He can't help himself.
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 10:38 AM
Jun 2020

The only thing he knows is to keep punching and since no one is going to take his phone away, the outcome is pretty obvious.

Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
17. And most who think and say these things did not support Biden in the
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 11:23 AM
Jun 2020

primary. I don't doubt they will vote for him in the election but the doom and gloom all of the time is exhausting. I am not referring to you. I don't remember who you supported...just a general comment.

RelativelyJones

(898 posts)
25. I take your point. I supported Biden enthusiastically during the primary, but am very wary of
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 12:02 PM
Jun 2020

overconfidence and echo chambers.

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
6. I don't care about polling after 2016.
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 10:27 AM
Jun 2020

I am going to work like we are losing by 10. Get out the Vote, work to get young people to register and vote. These damn polls mean nothing.

fleur-de-lisa

(14,624 posts)
8. The media will report that the polls are narrowing, whether they actually are or not.
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 10:38 AM
Jun 2020

They don't make as much money if the race is a runaway . . . gotta' keep it close to keep viewers tuned in and the advertising $$$ rolling in.

progressoid

(49,988 posts)
12. Yep. People are stupid.
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 10:48 AM
Jun 2020

The economy will start to improve and they'll start to forgive and forget.

Trump's white cult will redouble their support.

Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
16. As both hubs and I are out of work...I hope it improves. But it isn't going to be a V shaped
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 11:19 AM
Jun 2020

recovery. Everyday brings news of jobs lost permanently. Trump is going to lose. I wish some would stop with the doom and gloom as it only depresses turnout. Trump has killed over 110,000 Americans and by November it could be a half a million or more. He won't win.

Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
14. I don't believe that. We are in such a mess that folks will desperately want Trump gone....
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 11:17 AM
Jun 2020

We have a pandemic, depression level unemployment and civil unrest. You have to look at the reality of our situation. This is not 2016 where things were better most places after 08...it is a fucking disaster.

Yavin4

(35,438 posts)
19. Towards the end, fence-sitting Republicans will return to Trump.
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 11:39 AM
Jun 2020

The point of my OP was to stop people from freaking out when the polls inevtiably narrow. That's just how elections go.

 

SlogginThroughIt

(1,977 posts)
20. Get out in front of it... How?
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 11:41 AM
Jun 2020

What are you doing to get out in front of it? I am not trying to be a jerk. Just trying to understand what you are doing aside from posting this here.

Yavin4

(35,438 posts)
24. Ahead of people freaking out that the polls are narrowing.
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 12:00 PM
Jun 2020

There's nothing that anybody can do about it. The polls will narrow as we move closer to election day, and I didn't want people getting negative about it.

Bradshaw3

(7,519 posts)
21. Drumpf has his cult and most other repubs will return to the herd
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 11:42 AM
Jun 2020

I don't like to use the term tribal so I'll just say in-group-out-group behavior. Most repubs talk about being "Christian" or "conservative" or "pro-choice" or whatever rationale they use to justify the unjustifiable. It all comes down to their "group" as they see it and logic, consistency, morality don't matter for 90 percent of them, no matter what they say. Expect drumpf to get his 45 percent in November. Democrats have to expect that will happen again.

Happy Hoosier

(7,303 posts)
22. I agree.
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 11:47 AM
Jun 2020

If things calm a bit and we don;t have a huge second wave emerge, the polsl will revert to the norm.

Also, Barr plans a full-on assault in the late summer/fall. Durham's report will come out, and Barr will be looking to prosecute, and will no doubt throw down some indictments. Lindsey Graham will do everything he can to help that as well.

The Hunter Biden thing has fizzled since Ukraine has said there is no evidence of wrongdoing, but you can bet that will not satisfy Giuliani and he'll make a bunch of salacious claims.

None of this is intended to convince you and me, of course. This is mostly about getting back the folks who can't stomach what is going on NOW, but are looking for an excuse to say that at least Trump isn't as bad as INSERT NAME HERE.

Hopefully, he's genuinely lost enough people to mean he still loses.

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