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Archae

(46,312 posts)
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 12:04 PM Jun 2020

Anyone else here notice this about the right-wing?

Most of their "enemies" and "threats" are imaginary.

"Voter fraud" that doesn't happen. Mostly. And they end up getting caught doing it.

"Busloads of Antifa rioters" that don't exist.

And so on.

Is the right-wing nowadays the party of fairies and leprechauns?

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Anyone else here notice this about the right-wing? (Original Post) Archae Jun 2020 OP
They are a conspiracy theory cult SoonerPride Jun 2020 #1
The caravans of immigrants coming across the southern U.S. border fleur-de-lisa Jun 2020 #2
Oh, I thought you were going to say 'they are all selfish assholes' MLAA Jun 2020 #3
The Delusional Led By The Delusioned! madashelltoo Jun 2020 #4
I know a far right Christian who said that my sister (a lefty) was delusional Poiuyt Jun 2020 #29
Of course. Archae Jun 2020 #35
New Testament Christian hate works that way. Every time. czarjak Jun 2020 #5
Well you forgot the caravans from Central America malaise Jun 2020 #6
Those things plus more are projections. They KPN Jun 2020 #7
i think Al Franken nailed it dweller Jun 2020 #8
"lies" is insufficiently descriptive for what is happening with GOP dogma now 0rganism Jun 2020 #30
It is most certainly a tactic... Newest Reality Jun 2020 #9
The Right Wings Blame Defense Mechanism works overtime, they don't want 42bambi Jun 2020 #10
That's the road Trump and Fox News have led them down... Blue_Tires Jun 2020 #11
Oh no, it's much more dangerous than that. barbtries Jun 2020 #12
Their self-induced insane-level beliefs have been built on lies upon lies Hortensis Jun 2020 #13
fascist propaganda is deeply invested in phantom enemies. Voltaire2 Jun 2020 #14
Hillary's e-mails - aka Benghazi111!111! OAITW r.2.0 Jun 2020 #15
And just look at the reaction even today. Grokenstein Jun 2020 #36
more a cult... stillcool Jun 2020 #16
The right wing is all kinds of absurd, delusional and willfully ignorant. iscooterliberally Jun 2020 #17
Reality can't justify their behavior or thinking, so they make something up that does. Then react TheFourthMind Jun 2020 #18
They are more concerned with symbolism and mantras than facts and leadership Mr. Ected Jun 2020 #19
I've been saying for a long time that they just make shit up. Initech Jun 2020 #20
Paranoids want to attack someone, so they make up scenarios where it is self defense. gulliver Jun 2020 #21
And the mob of thousands of Central Americans getting ready to storm the border SCantiGOP Jun 2020 #22
Yeah, they're the party of lies and manipulation. coti Jun 2020 #23
Here... lame54 Jun 2020 #24
You forgot Benghazi, WMDs, Death Panels, etc... tenderfoot Jun 2020 #25
More like vampires and zombies. Brainless and empty. onecaliberal Jun 2020 #26
I prefer Frauds and Liars. TNNurse Jun 2020 #27
As we've seen recently Jarqui Jun 2020 #28
Republicans create their own reality. Just ask W. KY_EnviroGuy Jun 2020 #31
Way back in the 60s, went to a church, just one day and all they could talk about demigoddess Jun 2020 #32
And they believe in magic, like magic walls that can't be climbed. tclambert Jun 2020 #33
Give the people a bigger target to hate to distract them from hating you. n/t whopis01 Jun 2020 #34
Absolutely! nt live love laugh Jun 2020 #37

malaise

(268,856 posts)
6. Well you forgot the caravans from Central America
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 12:13 PM
Jun 2020

The thing is the assume everyone does what they do -lie, cheat and project - all the voter fraud I've seen was committed by ReTHUGs.

KPN

(15,641 posts)
7. Those things plus more are projections. They
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 12:15 PM
Jun 2020

lack any ethics whatsoever and assume we do as well. The truth is, they are the guilty party, not us. The only correct view they hold is we are their enemy, but only because they see and have seen us as that for a couple of decades now, and we — having finally awoken to that fact — have recognized we have to fight back with everything we’ve got; and in that sense — that we are fighting back — we ARE their enemy. But they are the oppressors, the cheaters, the crooks and the haters, not us.

dweller

(23,622 posts)
8. i think Al Franken nailed it
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 12:20 PM
Jun 2020

Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them : A Fair and Balanced Look at the Right

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0rganism

(23,936 posts)
30. "lies" is insufficiently descriptive for what is happening with GOP dogma now
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 02:50 PM
Jun 2020

certainly, there are lies, but so much more. for many years, Fox et al have been diligently practicing the craft of weaving a mesh of lies into a semi-coherent fabric from which they make costumes to wear in public.

thus, the lies are subsumed into a fairy-tale mythology with which the Trump cultists fully engage.

it's almost an abstraction layer for lies, as no single lie needs to be referenced explicitly, they can just use tag-lines which imply a whole bundle of loosely-related lies, woven together into a talking point. e.g. "Obamagate".

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
9. It is most certainly a tactic...
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 12:21 PM
Jun 2020

There are too many American that don't understand how it works and take things for face value, (which is WHY it works).

Just look back at Hitler/Goebbels and other propaganda-based means of manipulating the masses effectively. I would prefer fairies and leprechauns.

The Reich-Wing is just rehashing what has worked before as we would expect them to. They are "conserving" an organized means to seize and keep control in ways that, up until now, have not required more extreme measures. However, given the chance they certainly might.

The imaginary enemies and threats are are more often a projection and deflection. The tactic is to blame others for what you are doing over and over to make it sticky and seemingly plausible.

Yes, voter fraud is a big deal to them, (despite the statistics and information that contradicts that) because they want to manipulate the voting system in their own way, which could be called fraudulent.

Antifa is a dangerous one. It is not really an organized group, but more of an ideology. I don't think the GOPTRUMPISTREPORKLUKLANS are unaware of that, but all things considered, the fact that it is an almost empty term means that they can define it themselves and then use it to cast anyone they want to as the enemy under that banner. It can mean what they want it to mean and the fact that the ideology of Antifa is antifascist, that's telling. They picked a fitting antipode to their intents.

42bambi

(1,753 posts)
10. The Right Wings Blame Defense Mechanism works overtime, they don't want
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 12:21 PM
Jun 2020

us to notice their failings.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
13. Their self-induced insane-level beliefs have been built on lies upon lies
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 12:23 PM
Jun 2020

and can't be sustained without further lies to warp in new happenings. Their politicians literally cannot tell the truth and keep their jobs, but that goes both ways -- RW politicians must deceive voters to continue betraying them, and RW (and some LW) voters also insist on being deceived to continue betraying themselves.

Nature didn't fit me with an extravagance of gifts, but at least she didn't wire me conservative, and I'm so grateful.

Voltaire2

(12,995 posts)
14. fascist propaganda is deeply invested in phantom enemies.
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 12:31 PM
Jun 2020

Their proposed solutions to imaginary threats inflict real pain on real people, but by having fictional monsters to fight, there is no worry about the threats going away.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,398 posts)
15. Hillary's e-mails - aka Benghazi111!111!
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 12:32 PM
Jun 2020

Remember how much time and taxpayer money was spent to politically knee-cap her on what turned out to be a classic witch hunt with no actionable evidence?

Grokenstein

(5,721 posts)
36. And just look at the reaction even today.
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 03:36 PM
Jun 2020

"You blame Trump for everything! He didn't create COVID-19!"
"And Hillary didn't attack the consulate at Benghazi."
"So? It's about the reaction! She didn't react quickly enough to suit me!"
"And Trump didn't react at all to the pandemic warn--"
"LOCK! HER! UP! LOCK! HER! UP! LOCK! HER! UP! LOCK! HER! UP!"
"...I don't know why I bother."
"My logic is impenetrable! Hashtag winning! Kay ay gee! LOCK! HER! UP! LOCK--" (sudden coughing fit)

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
16. more a cult...
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 12:58 PM
Jun 2020

of gullible fools, and the gods they worship. Say anything, repeat after me, now it's true.

iscooterliberally

(2,860 posts)
17. The right wing is all kinds of absurd, delusional and willfully ignorant.
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 01:05 PM
Jun 2020

Their words are not better than silence.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
19. They are more concerned with symbolism and mantras than facts and leadership
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 02:34 PM
Jun 2020

Their favorite Democratic character is the straw man.

Initech

(100,059 posts)
20. I've been saying for a long time that they just make shit up.
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 02:38 PM
Jun 2020

And attempt to pass it off as fact.

Benghazi conspiracy? They made it up.

Pizzagate? They made it up.

Obamagate? They made it up.

Antifa? They made it up.

Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky? They made it up.

Hillary Clinton's e-mails? They made it up.

Literally every scandal or non scandal the GOP has tried to lob at the Democrats in the last 30 years was about as made up as the plot to LOST.

SCantiGOP

(13,868 posts)
22. And the mob of thousands of Central Americans getting ready to storm the border
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 02:40 PM
Jun 2020

In the days leading up to the 2018 mid-terms, all trump and FOX could talk about was the caravan of thousands that were going to storm the border and kill all of us.
Somehow, they all disappeared the day after the election. Don't doubt they are just sitting there resting up for the next election when the righties need them again.

Jarqui

(10,122 posts)
28. As we've seen recently
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 02:45 PM
Jun 2020

spending was a BIG issue when Democrats were the majority but the GOP had massive deficits recently and have often been big spenders with a GOP president.

Abortion. Do they really care about it? Not really. They flaunt it to get their religious base folks worked up and out to vote.

They are interested in one thing and one thing only: power.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,489 posts)
31. Republicans create their own reality. Just ask W.
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 02:51 PM
Jun 2020

Alt-realities are created daily for circulation within their bubble and they have their own complex private media system (both public and social) to be the bullhorns for that echo chamber. They have vast resources for creating content such as Heritage Foundation, Fox News and many more.

They use the Russian fascist method of flooding the public's brain with head-spinning amounts of confusing and contradictory soundbites, newsflashes, TV discussion panels and lengthy talk radio programs. It's a feature not a flaw.

It should be not surprise that Rethugs behave so bazaar when outside their bubble......

demigoddess

(6,640 posts)
32. Way back in the 60s, went to a church, just one day and all they could talk about
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 02:53 PM
Jun 2020

in the sermon was how people were trying to take them away from their religion and then told a story about a college kid who spent all his time trying to convert a foreign student that was his roommate. A foreign student that came to the US to become a doctor was sent home to his mother, converted and a preacher, not a doctor. And they were proud of this. SMH

tclambert

(11,085 posts)
33. And they believe in magic, like magic walls that can't be climbed.
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 02:54 PM
Jun 2020

Trump claimed they had champion mountain climbers try to climb a prototype and they couldn't do it. A serious rock climber took offense at that claim, built a replica of Trump's wall design and invited his friends to climb it. One guy climbed over in 15 seconds. An eight-year-old girl climbed over it!

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