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alwaysinasnit

(5,066 posts)
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 07:22 PM Jun 2020

Millions Of Americans Skip Payments As Tidal Wave Of Defaults And Evictions Looms

https://www.npr.org/2020/06/03/867856602/millions-of-americans-skipping-payments-as-tidal-wave-of-defaults-and-evictions-?utm_source=pocket-newtab

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But looking ahead, advocates say people could run into big trouble because the terms of these hardship programs can be all over the map.

"Credit cards, auto loans, installment loans, there are no federal guidelines," says Aracely Panameño, a director at the nonprofit Center for Responsible Lending.

She says when it comes time to make up for all those skipped payments, there are federal rules for repayment plans for home mortgages but not for many other types of loans. So she says lawmakers need to protect people. Otherwise, she says, lenders could make demands beyond what people can afford. "You must have a capacity to catch up with your payments in an affordable way," Panameño says.

Chi Chi Wu with the National Consumer Law Center agrees. Without better protections, when it comes time to make up for the missed payments, "there's going to be a lot of people who could experience massive credit reporting harm," says Wu, an attorney focusing on consumer credit issues.

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Millions Of Americans Skip Payments As Tidal Wave Of Defaults And Evictions Looms (Original Post) alwaysinasnit Jun 2020 OP
"Vaccine or no vaccine, WE'RE BACK" czarjak Jun 2020 #1
There's another nasty side to this customerserviceguy Jun 2020 #2
I received mine from AAA SoCalNative Jun 2020 #3
A friend who works for State Farm SheltieLover Jun 2020 #5
Yes, that's what they told me customerserviceguy Jun 2020 #9
I feel the same way! SheltieLover Jun 2020 #10
Yup. When I retired and no longer had to commute to work, I asked ooky Jun 2020 #14
Glad you did. 👍 SheltieLover Jun 2020 #15
I got 3 rebates from USAA jimfields33 Jun 2020 #7
I have GEICO and I have not seen a rebate either. Blue_true Jun 2020 #11
They're probably customerserviceguy Jun 2020 #12
Yes, GEICO does a lot of commercials. I don't know why, I have had really good luck with the Blue_true Jun 2020 #13
GEICO and Progressive are unique in a way. Xolodno Jun 2020 #16
GEICO is inexpensive, but also easy to utilize and solid on claims. nt Blue_true Jun 2020 #17
Most mortgage programs will allow you to skip payments but... Buckeyeblue Jun 2020 #4
I think they added them to the end of the loan. jimfields33 Jun 2020 #8
K&R Niagara Jun 2020 #6

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
2. There's another nasty side to this
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 08:43 PM
Jun 2020

You know those automobile insurance companies that say that they're rebating some of the premiums paid for coverage during the lockdown period? I haven't seen mine yet (thanks, State Farm) but they're about to get another windfall. Because of the insane notion that people who are having financial difficulties suddenly become bad drivers, you're going to see lowered credit scores turning into more premium dollars for these insurance companies.

And my bet is that people who manage to keep their bills paid aren't going to see any refund or rebate, either.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
5. A friend who works for State Farm
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 09:36 PM
Jun 2020

Says the plan is for rebates to be applied as credits on insureds' accounts in July. I hope this happens!

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
9. Yes, that's what they told me
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 03:03 PM
Jun 2020

when I called my local agent. Other companies have already gotten checks out to people. While I agree that it is fiscally more responsible to give credits for future purchases than to go through the hassle of mailing checks then having to account for them, I had wished that State Farm had been more prompt than the average auto insurance company.

I really resent the dollars that I pay for auto insurance, I only drive my car once a week or so to get groceries most of the time. I'm sure not taking any long trips these days, that's for sure!

ooky

(8,922 posts)
14. Yup. When I retired and no longer had to commute to work, I asked
Wed Jun 10, 2020, 09:19 PM
Jun 2020

my State Farm agent for it and they gave it to me. It wasn't a lot, but it did lower my premium a little.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
15. Glad you did. 👍
Wed Jun 10, 2020, 09:30 PM
Jun 2020

They should offer a lower mileage one now, imo. Their low mileage is 7500 mpy I think. Pfffft... I wont drive 750 miles in a year since the trumpdemic. 🙄

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
11. I have GEICO and I have not seen a rebate either.
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 10:22 PM
Jun 2020

It doesn't bother me that I haven't gotten one, but if they don't rebate, then they need to send some of their bailout money to charities.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
12. They're probably
Wed Jun 10, 2020, 12:48 PM
Jun 2020

pissing more of it away on advertising. Liberty Mutual is the worst for this, you can't watch a half-hour of TV without seeing one of their stupid "buddy cop from the 1970's with a flightless bird as his partner" ads.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
13. Yes, GEICO does a lot of commercials. I don't know why, I have had really good luck with the
Wed Jun 10, 2020, 08:47 PM
Jun 2020

company and would not switch.

Xolodno

(6,390 posts)
16. GEICO and Progressive are unique in a way.
Wed Jun 10, 2020, 09:44 PM
Jun 2020

The cost to manage your policy is extremely low since they insure only autos....which means less employee's, overhead, etc., I think Progressive sub-contracts their motorcycle insurance to Farmers...not sure about GEICO but it wouldn't surprise me.

It certainly frustrates the larger insurers, but with that said, they also have more room when the combined ratio tanks below what they expected. Your cheap companies have less wiggle room and thus, a harder time giving you rebate. But then again, you are already paying a lower premium vs. State Farm, Farmers, Allstate, CHUBB, etc.

As to why State Farm hasn't got on the ball, no clue. But they are fucking huge company and have been known to take on losses just to maintain market share.



Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
4. Most mortgage programs will allow you to skip payments but...
Mon Jun 8, 2020, 09:13 PM
Jun 2020

When the program ends, you have to make a catch up payment for those that you missed. Delinquencies will be artificially low and then they'll spike.

Watch the home loans. I think we've said that before.

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