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ffr

(22,669 posts)
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 03:33 PM Jun 2020

Forbes: There's A Glaring, Misleading Error In The May Jobs Report: U.S. May Be At 20% Unemployment

On Friday, I reported on the data released from the Department of Labor’s Bureau of Labor Statistics, indicating that 2.5 million jobs were added in May. This was followed by an enthusiastic take on how the United States may be turning the corner. Despite all of the negatives, it seemed the U.S. was seeing rays of hope.
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Unfortunately, after delving into the footnotes of the numbers, it now looks like the jobs report has been inaccurate for the last two months. BLS has admitted that government household survey takers mistakenly counted about 4.9 million people as employed, although they were unemployed.

Had the mistake been corrected, the unemployment rate would have risen to 16.1% in May. The corrected April figure would have been more than 19.5%—rather than 14.7%.

The official response was that the government doesn't correct its survey results for fear of the appearance of political manipulation.


"It’s going to be a problem of credibility now with the BLS,” said Mike Wolford, Director of Customer Success at Claro Workforce Analytics. “[BLS] looks incompetent or political. - Forbes

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Forbes: There's A Glaring, Misleading Error In The May Jobs Report: U.S. May Be At 20% Unemployment (Original Post) ffr Jun 2020 OP
Didn't Barr do this with the Mueller report? sop Jun 2020 #1
We'll find out starting July 20! soothsayer Jun 2020 #3
Apparently even more than we realized - Judge Walton is pissed. lagomorph777 Jun 2020 #12
Gee, ya think C_U_L8R Jun 2020 #2
16% or 13%, it's still bad. At least rate went down a bit- however calculated -hope trend continues. Hoyt Jun 2020 #4
That's The Message ProfessorGAC Jun 2020 #7
We don't know if the rate went down, Continuing Claims went up and LFPR went up too ... uponit7771 Jun 2020 #11
Trump's crowing about job numbers gratuitous Jun 2020 #5
+1, it took weeks for Trump to get America to the UE point it took yrs to get to in other crisis uponit7771 Jun 2020 #13
Thx Grat DENVERPOPS Jun 2020 #18
I am curious as to how that mistake happened. Jim__ Jun 2020 #6
Note that the unemployment number may be . . . "20%", - according to Forbes empedocles Jun 2020 #8
I like my books cooked well done with ketchup Amishman Jun 2020 #9
Data falsified in order to manipulate the stock market... Under The Radar Jun 2020 #10
Absolutely padah513 Jun 2020 #15
K&R smirkymonkey Jun 2020 #14
he Facists favorite tool too! This should be one of the top headlines in tonght's news. Fla Dem Jun 2020 #16
Remember the U6 that Repukes used to beat Obama up with? rurallib Jun 2020 #17
.."for fear of the appearance of political manipulation." SergeStorms Jun 2020 #19
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
4. 16% or 13%, it's still bad. At least rate went down a bit- however calculated -hope trend continues.
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 03:46 PM
Jun 2020

ProfessorGAC

(65,010 posts)
7. That's The Message
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 04:00 PM
Jun 2020

UE went down? It's still more than 3.5 times it was when Obama left office.
Not exactly a triumph.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
11. We don't know if the rate went down, Continuing Claims went up and LFPR went up too ...
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 04:34 PM
Jun 2020

... for the U3 UE rate to go down is historically unusual with those two numbers going up.

I'll be like the hospitalizations going through the roof but infection rate going down, could happen but very unusual.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
5. Trump's crowing about job numbers
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 03:51 PM
Jun 2020

But what is there to crow about?



That little fish hook at the bottom of the current situation? Greatly exaggerated, it turns out. But the erroneous data served its purpose last Friday when Trump needed something positive after a week of watching the fences go up around his residence.

DENVERPOPS

(8,817 posts)
18. Thx Grat
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 06:29 PM
Jun 2020

Your chart took my memory back 40 years. I distinctly remember how Reagan/Bush Sr./Cheney screwed with the unemployment figures to falsely claim Thx to Reagan they were going down.
They also screwed with how the cost of living was figured, completely re-doing how and what items were included.......listing only items that remained the same price, to corruptly calculate a low CPI.....,and how Reagan was responsible for a major slowing down of inflation.....

Watching that, and tens of other things they did made me a political junkie from then on. I have been screaming at the top of my lungs ever since.....

All this corruption in the Republican Party is not new folks, not at all. It's just that few were paying attention as it accelerated thru the past four decades and they kept getting away with more and more....

And, regretfully, we ain't seen nothing yet.....Katie Bar the Door......

Jim__

(14,075 posts)
6. I am curious as to how that mistake happened.
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 03:56 PM
Jun 2020

I understand that compiling these statistics is an extremely complex process. But I do think they could give us some explanation as to how this happened.

Amishman

(5,557 posts)
9. I like my books cooked well done with ketchup
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 04:22 PM
Jun 2020

or should it be so rare that it moos, on account of all the bullshit?

Under The Radar

(3,401 posts)
10. Data falsified in order to manipulate the stock market...
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 04:29 PM
Jun 2020

Trump has done that trick repeatedly with everything from CDC coronavirus statistics to lying about Trade Agreements, and even trying to influence individual companies stock both negatively and positively for those he likes.
I remember an interview where Alan Greenspan said that he was forbidden to talk to the press about market information due to the possibility of his comments influencing the exchanges. I assume there is a rule or law forbidding artificial influence, but not for Donny.

rurallib

(62,411 posts)
17. Remember the U6 that Repukes used to beat Obama up with?
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 06:08 PM
Jun 2020

The discouraged workers who no longer apply for jobs? Last I looked (about a month ago) that was @ 6%. Add that in and the actual, actual unemployment is @22.5%. Last month it was just short of 25%.

I don't believe we have ever had an honest document of any kind produced by this administration.

SergeStorms

(19,199 posts)
19. .."for fear of the appearance of political manipulation."
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 06:37 PM
Jun 2020
No. Political manipulation......from the Trump administration? Say it isn't so.
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