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Time for this "monument" to come down as well. (Original Post) roamer65 Jun 2020 OP
Stupid ugly piece of shit. Sandblast it dalton99a Jun 2020 #1
In a thread the other day it was suggested, smooth off the defaced side csziggy Jun 2020 #2
That's actually a good idea! roamer65 Jun 2020 #5
i suggested a fire that was big enough mopinko Jun 2020 #6
Not sure that would work, though there is natural exfoliation csziggy Jun 2020 #8
trust me. i have college credits for this shit. mopinko Jun 2020 #12
Ok, I'll take your word for it csziggy Jun 2020 #14
lol mopinko Jun 2020 #19
And they could show this movie on it, repeatedly DavidDvorkin Jun 2020 #13
Pefect! csziggy Jun 2020 #15
Nifty! DavidDvorkin Jun 2020 #17
Blow it up! Marrah_Goodman Jun 2020 #3
Have been promoting that for decades. A damn KKK Grand Wizard sold Hoyt Jun 2020 #4
Expand the bas relief to illustrate the Confederate Surrender. maxsolomon Jun 2020 #7
I wrote this about my Stone Mountain visit kimbutgar Jun 2020 #9
Never realized it was this ugly! Retrograde Jun 2020 #10
I live five miles from it Sedona Jun 2020 #11
STEAM it out. hunter Jun 2020 #16
see my comments above. mopinko Jun 2020 #20
I think Georgia should do some sort of battle reenactment. Bring in Union artillery, blast those Goodheart Jun 2020 #18
Sandblast it. Politicub Jun 2020 #21

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
2. In a thread the other day it was suggested, smooth off the defaced side
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 07:16 PM
Jun 2020

And turn it into a movie screen. There is no way to return the mountain to its original condition, so why not put it to a better use?

My Dad dragged the family there back in the early 1960s but I have never had any desire to visit it on my own. I would visit if movies such as Selma and videos of Martin Luther King and other civil rights leaders were shown on a screen made after the removal of the traitors statues that are now there.

mopinko

(70,096 posts)
6. i suggested a fire that was big enough
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 07:28 PM
Jun 2020

would cause that shit to flake right off.
that thread was full of good suggestions. this one is a good thought, but too much noise and bad juju.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
8. Not sure that would work, though there is natural exfoliation
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 07:48 PM
Jun 2020

The mountain is granite and does have cracks in it as a result of formation and erosion. But unless the natural cracks are in the right places, trying to encourage exfoliation of the carving site would be unpredictable.

What is heartbreaking is how the original geological formation was defaced. I found a guide to Stone Mountain (written in 1980) that included a photo of the mountain in 1890. It was impressive, this massive bulge of granite with a smooth surface. (GG-4 Geologic Guide to Stone Mountain Park (1980) on this page: https://epd.georgia.gov/outreach/publications/georgia-geologic-survey-guides-and-reports, 1890 photo on page 8 of the 38 page report). That beauty can never be restored.

It would be better to do a controlled demolition of the eyesore that now ruins the view of the mountain and put something useful in it's place.

mopinko

(70,096 posts)
12. trust me. i have college credits for this shit.
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 10:34 PM
Jun 2020

only question is how big the fire needs to be.
and aint nothin on that mountain worth pissing on.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
14. Ok, I'll take your word for it
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 10:44 PM
Jun 2020

I was three credit hours short of a geology minor - but I needed more chemistry to go further. So I don't have the science to get intot he details of how rocks react to chemical and physical stimuli. (Instead I ended up with two majors, anthropology and library science.)

mopinko

(70,096 posts)
19. lol
Wed Jun 10, 2020, 09:05 AM
Jun 2020

i was 1 physics course short of an a.s. when i left my hometown.
but i attended the school of the art institute. i was a ceramics/painting major.
have credit in kiln building, and helped build and fire an anagama w a japanese trained master potter.

and it's all about the water that seeps in through the broken surfaces.
plus fire = steam. boom.
would make some lovely sounds.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
15. Pefect!
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 10:46 PM
Jun 2020

My husband's gg?grandfather was on that march. He was mustered out at Savannah (I think) due to health reasons. We joke that his ancestor helped burn the records for my ancestors, many of whom lived in South Carolina in areas where the court houses and the churches were destroyed during the war.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
4. Have been promoting that for decades. A damn KKK Grand Wizard sold
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 07:22 PM
Jun 2020

it to the state.

But, lots of people - of all ethnicities- enjoy the park, for some reason. When I lived in Atlanta, found the place disgusting and creepy.

maxsolomon

(33,327 posts)
7. Expand the bas relief to illustrate the Confederate Surrender.
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 07:36 PM
Jun 2020

Plenty of room on that rock face.

It's a millenia-old tradition going back to Mesopotamia: Lincoln, Grant, Sherman, Frederick Douglas, Black Union Troops, famous Abolitionists...

Retrograde

(10,136 posts)
10. Never realized it was this ugly!
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 09:06 PM
Jun 2020

All the pictures I had seen focused just on the carvings, and did not show the actual mountain. This is the first one I recall that shows it in context, and it's just plain ugly. Maybe it's the angle or the light when the picture was taken, but it doesn't look like a "monument" - just a great big scar on the mountain.

My humble proposal: the carving and blasting must have left a lot of little nooks and crannies, just the sort of place seedlings could alight (or be planted). Let nature take its course and in a few decades - especially with a bit of human care and assistance - plant life will get its roots in and start spalling off bits and pieces.

Sedona

(3,769 posts)
11. I live five miles from it
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 09:52 PM
Jun 2020

Its a beautiful mountain in a gorgeous park that surrounds it. It makes me sick to my stomach every time I see it.

I'd love to see the carving destroyed.

I just don't see how it could happen.


What's the plan?

hunter

(38,311 posts)
16. STEAM it out.
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 11:05 PM
Jun 2020

Science, technology, engineering, art, and mathematics...

Create a custom high technology concrete mix matching the color and hardness of the mountain, incorporating much of the removed material, and fill the damned thing in.

People could use the work.

Goodheart

(5,321 posts)
18. I think Georgia should do some sort of battle reenactment. Bring in Union artillery, blast those
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 11:53 PM
Jun 2020

traitors away. Charge admission. Would be the social event of the decade.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
21. Sandblast it.
Wed Jun 10, 2020, 09:09 AM
Jun 2020

I like the amenities of the park, but the carving is a desecration of a unique natural feature.

I don’t care if the result is rough or smooth. Just get rid of it.

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