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[HAB911]

1. I could see it from my front yard growing up

of course never thought about it until many years later when visiting my family and they took us there for some idiotic laser show. I was horribly uncomfortable.

I think they destroyed it with the carving, so how could anything we do destroy it?

[Cirque du So-What]

2. May I ask what about your feelings are mixed regarding Stone Mountain?

It believe it’s a cut-and-dried good idea to blast that rock face into rubble - and tear down that abhorrent plantation, replete with slave quarters, while we’re at it.

[obamanut2012]

18. +1

[Cognitive_Resonance]

3. Rework it to honor Harriet Tubman, Frederick Douglass, MLK, ... Mt. Rushmore of the South. nt

[maxsolomon]

39. I like that - my idea was to add to make it a tableau of Confederate Surrender.

But given the expense to do either of those options, I think they're non-starters.

[Hoyt]

4. Sandblast the carving. Add giant statues like this to top for MLK, John Lewis, etc.

[Cracklin Charlie]

8. Is that how the carved surface was created?

It’s a beautiful place.

Would be much more beautiful without the carvings. Why not just return the stone to its original appearance, at least as much as possible.

[Hoyt]

10. I'm fine with that. I'd just like something done that removes that taint of the KKK rallies held

there, etc. As one of posters above mentioned, and I had forgotten, there is a plantation like building in the middle, etc. There is just too much homage to the heritage of hatred for me.

[Cracklin Charlie]

19. I went there. I am white.

It was a long time ago. I was waiting for my husband to golf there, so I was there for hours. I spent the least amount of time looking at that carving, because, even then (1985?), I found it so disturbing.

So, I walked around the park. The landscape of the piney woods, is beautiful. And, I had a very emotional experience there.

I was walking around a lake, and a carillon started playing a hymn that my deceased grandmother had always played on the piano. I sat on a bench near the carillon, and started crying my eyes out. The lady playing the carillon finished the song, came out of the instrument, and asked if I was okay.

I blubbered that it was my grandma’s favorite song, and thanked her. She sat down and hugged me, and told me that she played her grandparents favorite hymns every day. And sometimes...the Beatles!

I guess I think it would be a shame to lose such a beautiful place. Blast the monuments to bigotry!

[SheltieLover]

22. This!👆

[Mike 03]

5. I don't think Malcolm X has a monument yet

He really does deserve one, IMO. I'm not joking.

[panader0]

6. Very good article from the Southern Poverty LC. The place has an odious history.

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2018/stone-mountain-monumental-dilemma?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI2v2hzLX36QIVEgnnCh1edwqoEAAYASAAEgI0BPD_BwE

[KY_EnviroGuy]

7. I suggest leaving it the hell alone until after the election.

Despite the good moral reasoning, we're shooting ourselves in the foot with our do-gooder efforts at the wrong time. That is a darn good way to NOT turn Georgia blue and I know some of those people. Destroying the Stone Mountain monument would only harden millions of Georgians against us for decades.

"Defund the police" and tearing down statues of Columbus may (or may not) be the right thing to do but we're going to need every damn vote we can get this fall. Optics count in election seasons. Don't give Republicans any more ammo.

Defeating Trump and the GOP Senate must be Job No. 1 above all else. I say save these until after Nov. 3.

We should be pounding the internet and airwaves with 18,000 Trump lies....

[2naSalit]

9. +1

[Hoyt]

12. Probably a good idea. Give it a 6 month reprieve.

[KY_EnviroGuy]

23. It will still be there next year. Besides, as I read it that would require....

a change in Georgia law because it's a protected monument. Good luck with that.

What would be a real victory is if Georgia put it to a referendum and the people voted to have it removed but I seriously doubt that happening.

In this insane era, I would not put it past hard right-wing militants climbing up there and defacing the damn thing just for ammo against Democrats.

KY

[fescuerescue]

13. Theres always a next election

Until there isn't.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

25. It's time to come to terms with the fact that things are going to happen outside of electoral

politics. The goals of the police abolition movement or BLM or anyone who wants to get ride of Stone Mountain are not political. They are not hoping to elect a certain person or change the makeup of a legislative body. Their actions may affect electoral politics, it's true. But people who believe change happens only through electoral politics need to understand that the work is going to get done no matter what election is coming up. There is always another election coming up. Trump is going to do a lot of shitty things between now and the election, and waiting for an electoral solution is not going to keep him from doing those things over the next five months.

[KY_EnviroGuy]

31. In this case, yes it is political. See my post above.

Georgia would have to change their state law for it to be removed and it will become an election issue before November. They'll take that ball and roll with it on TV.

Republicans make everything in life political, not Democrats.

Just suggesting we need to be more careful with our timing.

KY

[WhiskeyGrinder]

11. Comparing Stone Mountain to the Buddhas of Bamyan is quite a reach. Whew.

[obamanut2012]

16. seriously

[quaint]

20. For certain.

[alfredo]

14. Rename it as the "Tres Traidores memorial."

Rename it on January 18 2021

[obamanut2012]

15. Jackhammer it off and sow the ground beneath it with salt

It is disgusting and insulting, and there si a reason the Klan and other Alt Right use it for rallies and cross burnings.

[janterry]

17. Georgia has to decide

I think it's important for people in the state to spearhead a conversation. Or a vote. Or a contest. Or something.

I have relatives in GA, who have lived there all their lives. I know they want it gone. But it has to come from them.

[hunter]

26. Are they going to use those electronic voting machines to decide?

[rownesheck]

21. Sorry. I didn't know what stone mountain was.

I googled it and I say, sandblast that shit.

[ucrdem]

24. How about adding profiles of women and POC?

There appears to be a lot unused space around the three central figures and it also seems to be a Georgia's #1 tourist destination per wikipedia so destroying or closing it would create a lot of ill-will

[obamanut2012]

28. Too bad

So, would it be okay to keep a monument to Ted Bundy, as long as you add statutes of his victims around it? Hitler shrines are AOK as long as we put up some Star of Davids on it?

This is literally the same. This is what you think would make it okay?

Sandblast that fucking shit. I do not give a goood fuck about creating ill will with racists and racists apologists. Enough is enough.

[ucrdem]

33. It's owned and maintained by the state of Georgia

so it's public property and any changes would have to be acceptable to the Georgia public. If it's as popular as claimed then destroying it doesn't seem like a realistic option. On the other hand a referendum on the question might show that it's not as beloved as all that.

[eShirl]

27. be a shame if it tripped

[JustGene]

29. Let Banksy fix it (or others)

[UTUSN]

30. Blowing up Nazi junk is apt. Blackwater could contract out to the Taliban Buddhas

Link to tweet

[lunasun]

32. Confederate monuments equal to Buddhist temples

[SoonerPride]

35. Sandblast it and return it to nature.

[luvs2sing]

36. Was there in 1989 or 90.

On our way home from Key West, we stopped near Jacksonville to visit my cousin. Boyfriend decided we would be close enough to Stone Mountain on our route for him to stop and play a round of golf. I had never heard of the place before and, when I saw the carving, I didn’t know what it depicted. I just thought it looked ugly and weird and was a blemish on the face of an otherwise beautiful mountain. I thought they should blast it off then, and I feel that even more strongly now.

[lagomorph777]

37. You would equate American traitors to the Buddha?

Ewwwww. Wrong. Erase the obscenity.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

38. Charge visitors $20 per minute to rent a hammer and chisel.

They get to keep any souvenirs they cut off.

[Marrah_Goodman]

40. Blow it up