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Stuart G

(38,419 posts)
Wed Jun 10, 2020, 12:23 PM Jun 2020

About Bad Cops, An Idea: "If it were easy to fix the problem, the problem would already be fixed."

.....Our country has sent men to the moon and sent pictures of them walking around. Right now, at this moment, I am typing on a machine that was "science fiction" when I was in grammar school. I have a car that has in it devises that were not even thought about 50 years ago. Etc, Etc, and Etc..

....So what is the problem with police forces around the U.S.A.? Why hasn't this been solved already?. I think the answer is not that complicated, but very difficult to solve. Here is my opinion on this: Competing forces within the community, state, and U.S.A make solving the problem almost impossible to solve. ... What forces?.........

..Here is an incomplete list: Police Forces, State Legislatures, City Governments, National Government, Community Groups, Different Political Parties, Police Unions, Lack of Funding, Difficulty in Changing Government, History of the Problem, Background of Various Groups, Media Influences, Lack of Knowledge about Solutions, Lack of Interest in Seeing the Problem Solved Over the Long Haul, Difficulty in Getting Laws Passed in Various Governments, and many more. (please add more)

..Various forces interact in ways that make progress and change very difficult. If one of the forces creates a barrier, and if that barrier (whatever it is) is strong enough, then nothing is done, or very little is accomplished even with much effort by groups to make positive changes in the situation. Last idea: Lots of forces, lots of barriers to change, difficulty in achieving change, and that is why there is little progress on this most important unsolved problem.

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About Bad Cops, An Idea: "If it were easy to fix the problem, the problem would already be fixed." (Original Post) Stuart G Jun 2020 OP
The police in the UK do so by consent. TexasProgresive Jun 2020 #1
Thank You for your incite and your opinion.. Stuart G Jun 2020 #2
It's sp hard because bad cops are the symptom Johnny2X2X Jun 2020 #3

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
1. The police in the UK do so by consent.
Wed Jun 10, 2020, 12:37 PM
Jun 2020

This I see is the real problem with US policing. Our cops separate themselves from the rest of us. The become cops and we are civilians. When by rights we should all be civilians. I posted an OP yesterday that has received no interest. It has a link to a piece by an ex cop and the nine Peeling principles of policing from Sir Robert Peel. It's from him that UK cops are called Bobby as Bobby's men.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213570945

Johnny2X2X

(19,038 posts)
3. It's sp hard because bad cops are the symptom
Wed Jun 10, 2020, 12:41 PM
Jun 2020

Yes, bad cops should be dealt with, but they're symptom of racist systems in this country. Racist criminal justice systems, racist social service systems and so on. The entire US Prison system was built to keep blacks subjugated after slavery ended, it's still built for that.

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