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Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
Wed Jun 10, 2020, 04:41 PM Jun 2020

Reagan and Maggie would be so proud...

The rot set in long ago. When they said there is no such thing as society they gave permission for the care nots to take control of our respective conservative movements and it has taken nearly 50 years for full exposure of the rot and stinking decay at the heart of the old boy school white privileged network at the core of our ruling classes – but with the perfect storm of 2020, we are witness to the utter horror that is the modern day conservative movement and how decades of underfunding and defunding vital public services, and a care not policy at the heart of governance, has led to this point.

Conservatives have claimed the mantle of ‘small state’ equals personal liberty and freedom to make choices beyond the control of the state – that this freedom of the individual to make choices trumps anything else but nothing could be further from the truth. What they really mean is that they don’t want to pay for support services for those who need it, but when those same communities come together to protest this systemic unfairness, conservatives demand an authoritarian mandate from the state for violent suppression of freedom of expression and to be given the power to be a constant intrusion into the lives of those who are not just like them.

Small state when it comes to tax and regulation. Big state when it comes to oppression and power. Reagan and Maggie would be so proud.

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Reagan and Maggie would be so proud... (Original Post) Soph0571 Jun 2020 OP
indeed - this neo-liberal theory has been an abysmal failure malaise Jun 2020 #1
Per Maggie, there's no choice because there is no "Society" JHB Jun 2020 #3
That statement did more to destroy the fabric of society than anything else in the UK n/t Soph0571 Jun 2020 #4
You nailed it malaise Jun 2020 #5
As there is no such thing as society in their minds Soph0571 Jun 2020 #6
KnR leftieNanner Jun 2020 #2
I thought it was Margaret Thatcher who said there was no such thing as society Fortinbras Armstrong Jun 2020 #7
Instead of "care not" I prefer the term "fuck 'em" Victor_c3 Jun 2020 #8
Victor, how about... saidsimplesimon Jun 2020 #10
K&R! bluestateboomer Jun 2020 #9
I once posed the question what it was that conservatives wanted to conserve.... lastlib Jun 2020 #11

malaise

(268,844 posts)
1. indeed - this neo-liberal theory has been an abysmal failure
Wed Jun 10, 2020, 04:44 PM
Jun 2020

Society or Market - which comes first?
The State has been looted (and not merely financially) by the billionaires and their tools.

JHB

(37,157 posts)
3. Per Maggie, there's no choice because there is no "Society"
Wed Jun 10, 2020, 04:50 PM
Jun 2020
There is no such thing as society: there are individual men and women, and there are families.

Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
6. As there is no such thing as society in their minds
Wed Jun 10, 2020, 05:01 PM
Jun 2020

It is always going to be the market. They have no balance or compassion.

leftieNanner

(15,074 posts)
2. KnR
Wed Jun 10, 2020, 04:46 PM
Jun 2020

It's akin to the corporate mantra. Capitalize the profits, Socialize the losses.

Heads I win. Tails you lose.

Same deal.

Fortinbras Armstrong

(4,473 posts)
7. I thought it was Margaret Thatcher who said there was no such thing as society
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 08:27 AM
Jun 2020

When she said it, I wondered what she thought she was Prime Minister of.

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
8. Instead of "care not" I prefer the term "fuck 'em"
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 08:42 AM
Jun 2020

That is such a succinct and correct explanation conservatives have for nearly all of their policy positions.

Old people? Fuck ‘em

Poor people? Fuck ‘em

Sick people? Fuck ‘em

LGTQ? Fuck ‘em

The environment? Fuck it (I guess policy gets a little more complicated with the use of the word “it” in place of “ ‘em”)

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
10. Victor, how about...
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 04:43 PM
Jun 2020

People who disrespect their parents without cause, Fuck'em

People who disrespect women, Fuck'em.

Bigots who receive government funded health care with my tax dollars, Fuck'em.

People who rape our planet for profit, Fuck'em.

bluestateboomer

(505 posts)
9. K&R!
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 01:58 PM
Jun 2020

When people decry the polarization of society they conveniently forget the 40 years of liberal bashing that has gone before.

lastlib

(23,191 posts)
11. I once posed the question what it was that conservatives wanted to conserve....
Fri Jun 12, 2020, 07:36 AM
Jun 2020

The essence of what I found:

1) Wealth for the wealthy;
2) Power for the powerful;
3) Comfort for the comfortable;
4) Poverty for the poor;
5) Affliction for the afflicted.

That's conservatism, boiled down to its bones.

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