Instead of renaming bases named after confederate leaders, just name things after OTHER enemies

[ck4829]

Fort Osama bin Laden
USS Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi
Fort Hudson Austin (Actually has a nice ring to it and it's been a long time since we invaded Grenada, so you can't say "too soon" here)
A new vehicle could be named the Omar after the leader of the Taliban

If it sounds silly now, that would be because of privilege.

[uponit7771]

1. THIS !! But those people aren't white enough for some folk to have as base names. I'm disgusted

... that this is even a discussion not to name military bases off of people who fought for oppression of Americans

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

2. Fort Von Richthofen, Fort Rommel, Fort Togo.

All of these were also generals in the military forces of defeated enemies.

[uponit7771]

3. +1, and all of those guys didn't continue the war for another 100 years

[ck4829]

4. I think those are extra suggestions

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

5. No; Rommel and Von Richthofen were fighting

for the oppression and extermination of a different group, some of whose descendants are Americans and are still being discriminated against by some of the same people who are oppressing PoC.

[uponit7771]

6. True edited

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

10. They had their own Bunker Boy, though,

who was hoping for a thousand-year Reich.

[The Magistrate]

7. von Richtofen, Ma'am, Never Ranked Above Captain

A small point, but old aeroplanes are one of my subjects. A cavalry captain, rittmeister, to be precise. the Germans were awfully stingy with rank in their air service....

Germany in the First world War did commit a course of atrocities in Belgium, but was not fighting with any genocidal purpose. German forces had certainly committed genocide before the Great War, in German Southwest Africa, against the Herero people native to the place.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

8. True, but Benning, after whom Ft. Benning was named, was only a brigadier general.

Von Richthofen is probably a lot more famous than Benning ever was. Since Von Richthofen was a revered aviator, maybe an Air Force base could be named after him?

[The Magistrate]

13. Apparently That Would Be Apropriate, Ma'am, Under the New Dispensation

Certainly he is far more famous. I could not believe my eyes the first time I saw 'Red Baron' frozen pizza....

[madinmaryland]

18. Fort Hitler, while they're at it.

[ck4829]

19. Scary thing is, I think there'd be a segment of the population OK with THAT one

[madinmaryland]

24. "There are fine people on both sides". 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

[wryter2000]

9. Fort Benedict Arnold

I think you’re onto something

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

12. Fort Quisling, while we're at it.

[wryter2000]

14. Yeah

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

17. Yes, the guy who was the willing puppet of an enemy force occupying his country.

Sound familiar?

[The Magistrate]

16. Arnold At Least, Sir, Accomplished Something For The Emerging Country

It was Arnold, rather than Gates, who was really responsible for the victory at Saratoga, which is what made the French decide to back the rebellion, and made it a going concern. He felt seriously slighted, and decided the rebels were not quite his cup of tea....

For a lot of these Confederate critters, the excuse has long been that the name is in recognition of their loyal service to the country in the Mexican War. Threadbare, but it could be said with a straight face....

[ProfessorGAC]

27. And The Money

Big bribes result in big betrayal. And Arnold's wife was an aggressive social climber.
Money was quite the motivation for Arnold.

[The Magistrate]

28. As The Song Says, Sir --- Money Changes Everything

In the War Lord period in China, they called it 'silver bullets', and often these were far more effective at gaining ground than powder and shot....

[DBoon]

11. For every statue honring Robert E Lee

We need at least one honoring Ho Chi Minh

[Journeyman]

20. Why not replace him with a statue honoring General George Henry Thomas? . . .

If you're intent is to shame those who support honoring Confederates, you can't do better than by honoring "The Rock of Chickamauga."

Replace Lee with a real American General from Virginia, George Henry Thomas. Unlike Lee, George Henry Thomas fought for the Union in the Civil War, rising to the rank of Major General.

His service in the Western Theater kept him from the glory and accolades that attended to those who fought in the East, but his accomplishments were no less and in many ways far superior to other, more renowned Generals. Unfortunately, outside of the history books -- and even then, rarely in those books not exclusively about Union military tactics in the West -- the "Rock of Chickamauga" is largely unknown and unsung. He holds the distinction, however, as the only Union commander who drove a major Confederate army away from a prepared position in a complete rout -- and he did it twice, first at Chattanooga in 1863, later at Nashville in 1864.

Whenever these debates about the Lost Cause and the glory of the Confederacy are belabored yet again, it is wise to remember the impeccable words General Thomas wrote after the war:

[T]he greatest efforts made by the defeated insurgents since the close of the war have been to promulgate the idea that the cause of liberty, justice, humanity, equality, and all the calendar of the virtues of freedom, suffered violence and wrong when the effort for southern independence failed. This is, of course, intended as a species of political cant, whereby the crime of treason might be covered with a counterfeit varnish of patriotism, so that the precipitators of the rebellion might go down in history hand in hand with the defenders of the government, thus wiping out with their own hands their own stains; a species of self-forgiveness amazing in its effrontery, when it is considered that life and property—justly forfeited by the laws of the country, of war, and of nations, through the magnanimity of the government and people—was not exacted from them.

[DBoon]

23. I agree - it was snark

Plenty of Americans who fought for justice and equality who deserve their place in the public square

[The Magistrate]

29. A Great Man, Sir

It is said that, when asked if burials on men killed in battle should be arranged by their home states, he replied 'Mix them up. We've had about enough of states' rights.'

[doc03]

15. How about Fort Antonio Lopez de Santa Anna

That would blow the MAGAts minds.

[rgbecker]

21. How about Fort Barack Obama? Fuckers would be rioting in the streets.

[meow2u3]

22. What about Camp Himmler?

[safeinOhio]

25. Arlington National Cemetery renamed to

King George National Cemetery.

[ProfessorGAC]

26. Camp Tojo

Then, at the place where special forces learn martial arts, then they call it the Tojo Dojo.