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kpete

(71,984 posts)
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 03:57 PM Jun 2020

Rupert Murdoch Thinks Trump Is Going To Crash & Burn & Lose the Election

Two sources told Vanity Fair that Rupert Murdoch has recently told people that he believes Donald Trump is going to lose the election in November.

Said one source: “Rupert thinks Trump is going to crash and burn. It’s a clear-eyed assessment, just based on just looking at the news.”

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/06/scoop-sean-hannity-and-ainsley-earhardt-are-the-first-couple-of-fox

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Rupert Murdoch Thinks Trump Is Going To Crash & Burn & Lose the Election (Original Post) kpete Jun 2020 OP
Trump losing Murdoch is kind of like when Johnson lost Cronkite. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2020 #1
Or when Hitler lost Goebbels. eom guillaumeb Jun 2020 #16
Wishing, hoping, buying extra fireworks for the party in my front yard. 👍 txwhitedove Jun 2020 #2
So Murdoch doesn't watch Fox News. Cause he sure doesn't come to that conclusion watching FOX. Midnight Writer Jun 2020 #3
ROFL lagomorph777 Jun 2020 #12
Actually there's a tiny sea change at faux soothsayer Jun 2020 #14
Despite all of Murdoch's best efforts tenderfoot Jun 2020 #4
Will trump send a letter demanding an apology? SoonerPride Jun 2020 #5
Well, if bunkerboy won't be good for ad revenue next year, grumpyduck Jun 2020 #6
Lets see, It could be an honest asssesment of a long time news man LiberalLovinLug Jun 2020 #7
He's usually a good judge of the way electoral winds are blowing muriel_volestrangler Jun 2020 #10
I guess I'm just a bit cynical of Fox News's motives about everything. LiberalLovinLug Jun 2020 #17
How will Rupert's epiphany change FOX News' coverage of Trump? sop Jun 2020 #8
Biden 7 point favorite on Real Clear Betting odds survey Cicada Jun 2020 #9
If that old bigoted sack of crap is correct... Docreed2003 Jun 2020 #11
I hope Murdoch keels over and dies. roamer65 Jun 2020 #13
+1,000,000 SoonerPride Jun 2020 #18
THIS. roamer65 Jun 2020 #19
That's why he's raging at Fox these days....Fox is gonna dump his ass now sunonmars Jun 2020 #15
If he's lost Fox News, Trump is toast. nt procon Jun 2020 #20
Is GOING to crash & burn? Dread Pirate Roberts Jun 2020 #21
This could be a distraction and a fake out. no_hypocrisy Jun 2020 #22

soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
14. Actually there's a tiny sea change at faux
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 04:43 PM
Jun 2020

They sometimes can’t seem to defend him —and even question his moves.

It’s still 99% awful but some truthiness is seeping in just a tad.

tenderfoot

(8,426 posts)
4. Despite all of Murdoch's best efforts
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 04:12 PM
Jun 2020


BTW - don't start celebrating - they're going to pull something to prevent it from happening.

grumpyduck

(6,232 posts)
6. Well, if bunkerboy won't be good for ad revenue next year,
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 04:13 PM
Jun 2020

ol' Rupert will dump him like shit from an elephant.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
7. Lets see, It could be an honest asssesment of a long time news man
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 04:16 PM
Jun 2020

Or....throwing more red meat out to his loyal viewers to be sure and get out and vote.

hmmmmm

muriel_volestrangler

(101,306 posts)
10. He's usually a good judge of the way electoral winds are blowing
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 04:33 PM
Jun 2020
One other revelation deserves a mention. At the end of last year Lord Mandelson said the Sun was supporting the Conservative party because News International had agreed a "contract" with David Cameron. The Tories responded by saying that, if there was a contract, Mandelson should explain what contract existed when the Sun supported Labour in 1997, 2001 and 2005.

Well, now we know what that contract was. Price explains in his book:

Blair and [Alastair] Campbell took to heart the advice of the Australian prime minister, Paul Keating, on how to deal with Murdoch: "He's a big bad bastard, and the only way you can deal with him is to make sure he thinks you can be a big bad bastard too. You can do deals with him, without ever saying a deal is done. But the only thing he cares about is his business and the only language he respects is strength."

Blair and his team believed they had achieved exactly that. A deal had been done, although with nothing in writing. If Murdoch were left to pursue his business interests in peace he would give Labour a fair wind.


https://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/2010/feb/24/revealed-deal-between-murdoch-blair

He switched The Sun from the Tories, whom it has supported since at least 1979, to Labour under Blair. And then switched it back to the Tories when he saw Cameron could win.

To get open support, the Democrats would have to do a deal with him like Blair did, but Biden has too much integrity for that. But I expect Murdoch is making sure Fox News is prepared to survive under a Dem president, and even both Houses, just in case - which could mean the more outrageous BS gets reined back in just a little.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
17. I guess I'm just a bit cynical of Fox News's motives about everything.
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 05:02 PM
Jun 2020

But if that is right about Blair, I'm afraid of that possibility. Biden making a "deal" with Fox News. Do you honestly have faith he wouldn't? ie..leave my businesses alone, (keep tax cuts, no new "Fairness Doctrine", no M4A) and he won't be too hard on him. Otherwise its full scale war for 4 years. It sure seems that Fox News rose in popularity when a Democrat was in office, as its even more of a legitimate cover to criticize the other party when they hold the reigns of power.

sop

(10,156 posts)
8. How will Rupert's epiphany change FOX News' coverage of Trump?
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 04:24 PM
Jun 2020

Will they cut their losses and focus on salvaging the Senate? Double down and ratchet up the crazy? Even Republican propaganda and disinformation organizations have to worry about the future.

Docreed2003

(16,858 posts)
11. If that old bigoted sack of crap is correct...
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 04:34 PM
Jun 2020

There will be world wide celebrations...and I'll get to knock back that bottle of whiskey I had from 2016!

Dread Pirate Roberts

(1,896 posts)
21. Is GOING to crash & burn?
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 05:24 PM
Jun 2020

The smoldering wreckage is already in a heap in some cornfield with the NTSB on the way.

no_hypocrisy

(46,080 posts)
22. This could be a distraction and a fake out.
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 05:39 PM
Jun 2020

I don't trust anyone on Trump's side to be honest, even in private.

Just suppose that Murdoch said what was reported (hearsay) in private. He knows nobody can keep a secret and it would be just a matter of time before his statement became public.

The forces fighting Trump would do one of two things: A) Ignore it and keep fighting, or B) Become complacent. Sort of a riff on Lyndon Johnson's "When you've lost Cronkite . . . . "

If Murdoch and with whom he's working used Option B as their "strategy", it's only to weaken Trump's adversaries. (Hooray! We've won! All we have to do is wake up on Wednesday, November 4 and celebrate.) Murdoch honestly doesn't know any more than we do what's going to happen on Election Day.

Everyone (Joe Biden, Democrats, all of us) have to fight as though Trump is going to win, because if we don't, he will.

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