No baby. Not anymore!

[marble falls]

[brush]

1. W shouldn't have been so obvious with his crush on Michelle.

[Skittles]

3. a lot of guys crushed on Michelle

my bf back then sure did

[marble falls]

5. I admit it. My wife knows it, I have a little bit of a crush on Michele myself.

[comradebillyboy]

2. What does it mean when Trump is so bad that Bush looks

better in hindsight than he ever did in real time?

[Skittles]

4. it means you don't know just how bad Dubya was

no indeed

[marble falls]

6. You mean like this ...

[Skittles]

7. pretty much

people still die EVERY DAY because of that warmongering bastard, and countless others are maimed for life......no amount of Trump will ever rehabilitate Duyba in my eyes, not EVER

[mopinko]

10. it doesnt say he was good. just not the worst.

that there is true.

[Skittles]

11. but Trump does NOT make Dubya look good

they BOTH SUCK

[mopinko]

22. that's not what it says.

[stopdiggin]

8. as far as being an existential threat to this country

democratic ideals (whatever that means) and the world itself ... I'd have to say that DJT is lapping the field.
Just my take.
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[Skittles]

9. I'd say lying their way into a war falls into that category

yup

[canetoad]

15. That energy would be better spent

Bringing down Trump than dwelling on the past.

[WonderGrunion]

12. I thought Bush was the worst president the Republicans could pick

And they took it as a challenge. I know Trump is worse and I just accept that as bad as he is, the Republicans can find someone worse than him.

[sprinkleeninow]

13. Thas the scary part. That they could find someone worse.

If there be such a thing.

Time will tell. COVID-45 is the end of succession.

[brush]

24. Yep, Pompeo and Cotton are waiting in the wings for 2024...

because most realized trump is toast after his humongous failures—covid, the economy, unemployment.

Romney might even be eyeing another run. I don't quite put him in the same category though as he has a slight shred of humanity.

[TristanIsolde]

14. It is dismaying how his image was rehabilitated

He is a war criminal, first and foremost, despite the shinier veneer than Trump.

Disappointed in Ellen and Michelle there, but understand they are public figures too and need to choose their battles. But I think firmly shunning a war monger, with the blood of millions on his head is warranted.

[canetoad]

16. BS Everyone can be rehabilitatd

Even Wagner, after the Nazis claimed his vision as their own.

[TristanIsolde]

18. I get what you are alluding to. Wagner died like 50 years before the Nazis materialised

I am aware of the heated debate. My position is he added so much to the world with his gorgeous music, such that the world will lose something without it.

My personal opinion is that if he lived through Nazism he would not have supported it. Also, I am ok with "punishing him" by forgetting his name and just attributing the music to an unkown 19th century german composer,but shunning his sublime art is inconceivable to me.

[canetoad]

19. Never been much of a Wagner fan

A few soaring moments perhaps, otherwise very predictable, 'germanic' and long. Conservative, in other words.

Try, for comparison, Mozart Piano Concerto No. 10,, k. 365. Interestingly, some psychologists say that listening to classical music increases your I.Q. and this piece has proven to be the most effective.

[TristanIsolde]

20. This is my favourite Mozart piece:

Concerto for piano and Orchestra (d-minor) K.466

For some reason I was always more attached to the Shubert/Wagner/Bruckner branch of musical ideas culminating in Mahler. Beethoven is a unique island that does not exactly fit with the shubertian tradition, but he appeals to me also.

I have neglected Mozart in my youth, other than the staple operas like Figaro and magic flute, sym 40, etc. Recently I am revisiting him and finding much richness in his piano sonatas.

[canetoad]

21. Bach is interesting

After a joint and a shiraz. Like listening to the Mandelbrot Set expressed in audible tones.

[lagomorph777]

23. Fractal compositions

[JI7]

17. He wasn't rehabilitated . People still think he was a shitty President. He has brain damage and

mentally he is like a child so of course michelle and ellen aren't going to be cruel to him.

[BGBD]

25. There WILL be a worse

candidate, if not president.

There is going to be somebody coming who is has the same dangerous ideas but be much more effective at accomplishing their goals without ending up with wide public outcry.

Trump is his own worst enemy, somewhere out there the next fascist is taking notes.