Dear President Biden, please don't "move on"

[edhopper]

The unaccountable criminal behavior of this Administration is unsurpassed. From firing IGs in the middle of investigations to the doling out of hundreds of billions without oversight. From collusion with foreign powers to lining there own pockets at every turn. We must not "move on" from this Presidency. There must be a reckoning with this lawlessness or the Law has no meaning.

[redstatebluegirl]

1. There must be arrests and trials after this is over.

I really want Barr and Pompeo walking the perp walk.

[leftieNanner]

2. I detest them too

But I have an honest question. What specific laws have they broken? I know Pompeo had those skeezy fancy dinners on our dime, but is that against the law? Barr has run roughshod over our DOJ, but has he done anything criminal?

I want these jerks behind bars too, but we need to make sure we have specific charges that can stick!

[redstatebluegirl]

3. I need to find the article in the Washington Post that talked about the laws being broken.

All are federal. If nothing else we can make it hard for Pompeo to run for anything else and disbar Barr.

[leftieNanner]

6. Excellent!

I'll search WaPo for that. I broke down and did a one year subscription (bargain! $29) and it's been worth it.

Disbar Barr has a nice ring to it. And it would be humiliating to him. Double bonus!

[Demsrule86]

7. I don't see prosecutions of that many people...Trump will no doubt pardon many of them.

[leftieNanner]

9. You are probably right

The precedent that is set by pursuing previous administrations is a dangerous line to cross.

But can we disbar Barr? Pretty please?

[Mr.Bill]

17. No he won't.

Trump doesn't give a fuck about anyone but himself. He wouldn't bother to pardon his own kids.

[JI7]

31. he has already pardoned people like dinesh dsouza and joe arpaio

he will easily pardon those in his administration since it means it would protect him also.

[Mr.Bill]

44. Only because it made him look good to his base.

I guarantee he couldn't have picked those people out of a line-up if his life depended on it.

[Demsrule86]

34. He will in the end.

And with a pandemic, economic collapse and 40 million out of work...that has to be our focus. The AG can determine which cases can be prosecuted. And some will not be.

[tecelote]

18. If there are no consequences then we are asking for it to happen again.

I'm afraid we are going to "look to the future."

Maybe if Bush and Cheney faced consequences, Trump would have been afraid to run.

[Demsrule86]

35. We have four years before the next election to fix things or be on the path to fixing things or we

out...that is far more important...as for asking for it to happen again...prosecution won't change that.

[rockfordfile]

21. I agree

[beachbumbob]

4. He has to campaign on bringing criminals to justice,

Including trump and family if crimes been committed.

[Demsrule86]

5. You must understand that the first thing that must be done is to fix healthcare, and provide jobs...

we need Roosevelt type programs that work in the 21st century...Green energy is but one. It must be left to the AG not congress and not the president to prosecute any of the wrong doers...most of whom will be pardoned. I expect state level prosecutions. But our priority must be to save the economy. That will be a full time job. We must send help to the people. Once the Trumpists are gone...no one will care if they don't have a job and/or healthcare.

[leftieNanner]

11. I agree that we need to focus on those issues

Perhaps a Special Commission to investigate?

We can't just walk away from this mess. Another option is to set Congress on the task of codifying some of these issues that were previously understood to be givens that this administration stomped all over.

[Demsrule86]

40. Let the AG and law enforcement handle it...no commisions...congress needs to work

on issues that people care about.

[SoonerPride]

8. Sure seems like a great task for a vice president.

Which leads me to want Kamala even more.

"Hey, VP Harris, please prosecute the fuck out of all the criminals of the prior administration. Find all of them.

I will be busy trying to get covid under control and repairing the economy! "

[Dem4Life1102]

12. VPs don't prosecute anyone

That would be unconstitutional.

[relayerbob]

15. That's why she needs to be AG

[Demsrule86]

41. No, neither the VP nor the President should be involved in prosecutions.

[soothsayer]

10. Gotta watch that "jail your predecessor" slippery slope

[edhopper]

27. sarcasm

I hope?

[Demsrule86]

42. I agree...let it go...justice handles what has to be handled.

[ace3csusm]

13. Investigatation should be done to see if wrong doing was done

Other wise what keeps other administration from doing the same, a line must be drawn regardless of party in power...

[edhopper]

28. Because

we already know wrong doing was done. Yes full investigation into everywhere Trump has stopped it.

[relayerbob]

14. He's made it clear he is not thinking like that at all

He has stated repeatedly that the President should not interfere with Attorney General processes and justice, and expects all crimes to be prosecuted properly through that office. Put Kamala in as AG, and Dump and his cronies will be toast

[edhopper]

29. That is the way to go

but don't hold the DOJ back.

[BamaRefugee]

16. The FIRST THING that has to be done is airtight, ironclad, VOTING RIGHTS!!!! Everything else will

fall into place, for decades to come, if all eligible citizens can VOTE!

This should have been done BEFORE OBAMACARE, and all the rest of this farce would never have happened.

[Ligyron]

19. How can Trump pardon anyone if he's not President?

He can pardon them in advance? WTF??

Can he also pardon them for murder?

[Demsrule86]

43. Yes to both questions.

[OverBurn]

20. If Biden wins, my God he better. Spend the next 4-8 years prosecuting all those MFers!

[Karadeniz]

22. Yes, yes, yes...but it shouldn't be a headliner...could drive away GOP voters for him.

[certainot]

23. definitely. and with limbaugh croaking there's a much better chance it can happen

and trump knows it

[Loge23]

24. As long as Biden doesn't offer clemency or a pardon.

Prosecuting crimes will be the decision of whomever Biden appoints as AG and even then, a "hands-off" policy would suffice if the AG does not actively interfere with investigations. Barr's interference in the Mueller investigation, the Epstein case, and Barr's apparent interest in conspiracy theories originating on the right must be held as exactly what not to do by Biden's administration.
That said, my fear is that Nice Guy Joe will make a statement about the departing administrations "service to our country" and offer a pardon if and when high level officials from the Disgrace are indicted. That must not happen.

[backscatter712]

25. Damned right! No more "Look forward, not backward."

I want blood after what Trump and the GOP did to our country.

[LiberalLovinLug]

26. Any initial thrill of victory IF Biden wins, will be dampened greatly

If it is followed by snapping on blinders and another "move forward" speech.

Will Fox News/Rush Limpballs/Alex Jones/QAnon go into overdrive if Democrats roll up their sleeves and investigate and prosecute Trump and his cult leaders? Of course. But they would already be losing their voices, one or two notches up in their fake hysteria wouldn't make a lot of difference.

Just like the Impeachment hearings, it did not hurt them, even if it didn't move many Republicans other than Mitt. But what it did was at least make an historical marker, which I believe will be looked at with more astonishment at Republican behaviour as time passes.

I do fear a rash of cowardly mass shootings by enraged MAGAts and KKK members, and maybe even some attempt to organize far right militias to "take back America". But those are issues we shouldn't let dictate what is right to do to for the future state of the nation.

[Tarheel_Dem]

30. Biden will have nothing to do with that. That is the job of the DOJ, and the DOJ is "supposed" to..

be "independent".

[edhopper]

33. And yet

Obama had his DOJ stay away from going after the Bush Administration. How did that work out?

[Tarheel_Dem]

36. And yet, the fact remains that a POTUS is not supposed to be seen as interfering with the...

work of the DOJ, and I hope we return to a time when the AG was not seen as doing the bidding of ANY sitting president.

[edhopper]

38. But if Biden says

he wants to "move on" from the Trump Presidency, the way Obama did with Bush. Isn't that interfering with the DOJ?

Notice I didn't say Biden should order going after Trump, just not say the aren't.

[Tarheel_Dem]

39. I would certainly hope that Biden would simply say that he'll be appointing a qualified AG, with....

immense integrity, and if there's anything to prosecute, I'll leave it up to that department.

[intrepidity]

32. And for anyone that says "oh, be careful, then they'll do it too"

They already do whatever they want! Fuck that shit.

[Goodheart]

37. Investigate, indict, convict.