Anti-Trump Groups Plan Fight If President Loses Election, Refutes Results

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Liberal activist groups are not only preparing for election day on November 3—they are organizing for what may come the day after.

Concerns among progressives—and even some Democrats in office—that President Donald Trump may lose the November election yet dismiss the results or refuse to relinquish his power are so prevalent that organizations are forming a coalition to educate voters and "mobilize" Americans to demand a peaceful transfer of power.

"We're sounding the alarm that the threat Trump poses to our democracy is very real," Stand Up America President Sean Eldridge told Newsweek.

The liberal activist group is teaming up with Indivisible, another grassroots progressive organization, to launch its new "Protect the Results" initiative, plans of which were first shared with Newsweek.

"The writing is on the wall: Trump has spent the last 3.5 years undermining our democracy, ignoring our institutional norms," Indivisible Co-Executive Director Ezra Levin said. "He's already trying to sow the seeds of that trend after November 3."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elections-2020/anti-trump-groups-plan-fight-if-president-loses-election-refutes-results/ar-BB15nPoe?li=BBnb7Kz

[sop]

1. Not "if," but "when" Trump refutes results.

Our efforts would be better directed at making sure people can and will vote in overwhelming numbers.

[Eliot Rosewater]

2. Let me fix that OP: Anti-Trump Groups Plan Fight WHEN President Loses Election, Refutes Results

[smirkymonkey]

3. I think it's wise to start sounding the alarm now that he will try to cheat and if he does lose,

that he will refuse to accept the results so that everyone will be well aware of and onto his little game before it is even attempted.

It will be a lot harder for him to pull it off if people on both sides of the aisle have been expecting it for months in advance. He needs to be called out well in advance so that he is guilty in people's minds before it actually happens.

[gratuitous]

4. Prepare for battle

In 2000, the Bush campaign was poised to contest the election results should George W. win the popular vote but lose the electoral vote. They had their spokespeople all lined up to bleat out "the will of the people" on every news outlet that would put a microphone in front of them. When the exact opposite happened, they just changed the tapes and bleated about "the ballots have been counted and recounted" and a pliant media repeated that as if it were true. While the Gore campaign was ready with its legal team to contest the results in Florida according to the law, they got hammered in the media by the message discipline of the Bush campaign, and ultimately lost in court in spite of having the law and the facts solidly on their side.

Democrats have to be ready, and from Biden's remarks yesterday, I think they are ready, to meet every trick the Trump campaign is going to try to pull when Trump loses in November. There has to be not just a legal operation but a public relations operation geared up and ready to go. Also have a counter dirty tricks operation ready and waiting. Democrats will need opposition research for everyone on the Trump campaign and full dossier of their public utterances to expose them for the cynical hypocrites they are.

[stillcool]

5. get it out in the open..

so no one will be surprised, or take the election for granted. State governments are where the action is.

[NCDem47]

6. I can't believe this is what it has come to.

But Democrats are going to have to dig into their pocketbooks and fund a war room to run scenarios, develop strategies, and INSTANTLY pull a trigger on tactical implementation when this happens. And it will.

Please, PLEASE, if anyone with power is looking in, give deep thought to the PR side of things as much as the judicial stuff.

It sucks we have to spend time and resources on this - and we are playing defense here on the front end - but it must be done.

[colsohlibgal]

7. The Good News On That Possibility

He would need the Military with him to have any kind of chance but that ship is sailing.

If he refuses to concede and tries to stay I am confident he’ll be dragged out of there.

He may then eventually get back into a big house but it will be Prison.

[matt819]

8. I saw an article last week - somewhere - on this issue

The long and short of that article was that it doesn't really matter.

The one key assumption is that the election is fair. There could be disputes from either side, and Dems need to be ready for this.

But. . . if the vote is clear and the electoral college does its thing, then whatever trump tries to do will be for naught.

He may do nothing to support the transition, but it doesn't matter. The president-elect still get USSS protection and the new president and his team get to receive all the briefing they're entitled to.

Then, inauguration day. I don't doubt that trump won't attend. So what. Once Biden is inaugurated, he is the president. trump has no standing. He has no right to be in the White House. He has no legal presidential power. If he needs to be removed from the White House, then that will happen, probably enforced by the Secret Service.

I think the larger issue is in the period from the election to the electoral college, with either, or both, sides possibly disputing the free and fair part. And, by all means, there should be teams of lawyer ready to go. Plus observers at key polling places and in key states.

But if it's a clear Biden victory, then I'm not terribly concerned. We all know that trump will be trump and he will set tweeting records daily. Riots from the right could be an issue, especially since the police have clearly demonstrated that they will do almost nothing to white rioters. But that will be dealt with, for better or worse, by local authorities. I think the military has made it clear that they are not going to get involved in domestic policing, especially not with a new civilian boss in the wings.

Back to inauguration day - It is beyond crucial that Biden remove every single schedule C appointee immediately. Anyone with any connection to trump is out the door. No holdovers. None. And if he's not ready from day one with proposed cabinet and key agency appointments, I will be seriously disappointed.

[Gothmog]

9. Trump says he'll "go on and do other things" if he loses in November

I do not believe trump and I strongly believe that we have to have a large margin of victory to get trump to go away after he loses

Link to tweet

President Trump shrugged off an accusation from Joe Biden that he would try to steal the election, saying if he doesn’t win he’ll “go on and do other things.”

“Certainly if I don’t win, I don’t win. I mean, you know, go on and do other things,” Trump said during a Fox News interview that aired Friday afternoon.

“I think that would be a very sad thing for our country,” he added.

Biden, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, predicted during an interview on “The Daily Show With Trevor Noah” on Wednesday that Trump “is going to try to steal this election.” Biden called it his “single greatest concern.”

[electric_blue68]

10. Dirty Trick during Gore 2000 Recount

Some if you you might remember, or don't know for various reasons...

...bus loads of Republicans came into FLA County (Broward?) where the recount was being done. They ran uo and down the halls and stairs banging on the office windows to intimidate the counters, loggers, etc



Off hand I can't remember if that was the, or a partial reason why they stopped the count.

[Gothmog]

11. I love James Carvile

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