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The headline on CNBC online is the Dow recovers after the worst sell off since March. The Dow is up less than 200 points after an 1800 point selloff. how does that qualify as a recovery? Yes, if it came back 1550 points Id say sure.
soothsayer
(38,601 posts)Ha
SWBTATTReg
(22,065 posts)Personally I think the markets are being manipulated by short sellers and options holders etc., all trying to make a buck during these turbulent times, for I sure that they all took a beating when rump's stock market numbers finally crashed, as many were predicting. I still think the market is very iffy, and on shaky ground/support).
jimfields33
(15,682 posts)But it is true recover can be correct. When your sick, you say Im recovering. It doesnt mean your perfectly healthy but getting there.
RandiFan1290
(6,221 posts)jimfields33
(15,682 posts)SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)empedocles
(15,751 posts)Sheep will likely get further sheared with big up and down moves, since this may be the start of a big 2nd leg down.
ProfessorGAC
(64,851 posts)Econometricians linking market pricing to underlying equity value call +/-5% of the calculated number market equilibrium.
It's now 3% above true equilibrium. There are financial data to support a number of 25,200.
When Obama left office the major indices were around 7% below equilibrium, but the markets still went up by 11.7% per year for 7 years.
The last 3.5 years the 7% was made up and 3% more. When it was at nearly 30,000 it was massively overvalued. It's not now.
A curve started in 1990 to 2010 could have, if linear growth and no Bush Recession of COVID would have extrapolated to 24,700.
10,000 points below where it is now has no statistical foundation.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Remember those terrific jobs number (that weren't so terrific) that Bunkerbaby was crowing about last week? Here's what that "recovery" looks like with a little bit of context:
That itty-bitty (and exaggerated) fish hook down there? Okay, so maybe not every last job lost during the Trump recession has quite been recovered.
leftieNanner
(15,062 posts)That's quite a "curve".
And the recovery won't likely be as easy as the one in 2007.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Trump ain't got that kind of time before election day.
gab13by13
(21,255 posts)TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)other shit irrelevant to the companies involved. Even less relevant to us in the real world.
And 0% interest rates leave a lot of money looking for a parking spot.
unblock
(52,116 posts)Their headline will catch up, sometimes they can be hours behind during the day
Roland99
(53,342 posts)and S&P 500 just went red
gibraltar72
(7,498 posts)which is true. We are still in the first.
I_UndergroundPanther
(12,462 posts)It's puffed up with bullshit and questionable shady finances and stock buybacks.