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PCIntern

(25,477 posts)
Fri Jun 12, 2020, 01:40 PM Jun 2020

What the actual fuck?

Last edited Fri Jun 12, 2020, 04:22 PM - Edit history (1)

The headline on CNBC online is the “Dow recovers after the worst sell off since March”. The Dow is up less than 200 points after an 1800 point selloff. how does that qualify as a recovery? Yes, if it came back 1550 points I’d say sure.

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SWBTATTReg

(22,065 posts)
2. Yeah, I know. I saw. What a joke. It was up over 400+ points earlier today...
Fri Jun 12, 2020, 01:46 PM
Jun 2020

Personally I think the markets are being manipulated by short sellers and options holders etc., all trying to make a buck during these turbulent times, for I sure that they all took a beating when rump's stock market numbers finally crashed, as many were predicting. I still think the market is very iffy, and on shaky ground/support).

jimfields33

(15,682 posts)
3. Probably should have said stock market stopped the drop or something
Fri Jun 12, 2020, 01:46 PM
Jun 2020

But it is true recover can be correct. When your sick, you say I’m recovering. It doesn’t mean your perfectly healthy but getting there.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
10. The enthusiastic sheep got set up with the 10,000 rally, sheared with the pile on 1800pt drop.
Fri Jun 12, 2020, 02:01 PM
Jun 2020

Sheep will likely get further sheared with big up and down moves, since this may be the start of a big 2nd leg down.

ProfessorGAC

(64,851 posts)
16. I'm Sorry But It's Not
Fri Jun 12, 2020, 03:47 PM
Jun 2020

Econometricians linking market pricing to underlying equity value call +/-5% of the calculated number market equilibrium.

It's now 3% above true equilibrium. There are financial data to support a number of 25,200.

When Obama left office the major indices were around 7% below equilibrium, but the markets still went up by 11.7% per year for 7 years.

The last 3.5 years the 7% was made up and 3% more. When it was at nearly 30,000 it was massively overvalued. It's not now.

A curve started in 1990 to 2010 could have, if linear growth and no Bush Recession of COVID would have extrapolated to 24,700.

10,000 points below where it is now has no statistical foundation.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
6. That pig isn't going to be putting on the lipstick by itself
Fri Jun 12, 2020, 01:53 PM
Jun 2020

Remember those terrific jobs number (that weren't so terrific) that Bunkerbaby was crowing about last week? Here's what that "recovery" looks like with a little bit of context:



That itty-bitty (and exaggerated) fish hook down there? Okay, so maybe not every last job lost during the Trump recession has quite been recovered.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
13. And the 2007 recovery took about a full year from its nadir
Fri Jun 12, 2020, 02:26 PM
Jun 2020

Trump ain't got that kind of time before election day.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
8. Who gives an actual fuck? Nowadays it's all program trading, options, futures and...
Fri Jun 12, 2020, 01:56 PM
Jun 2020

other shit irrelevant to the companies involved. Even less relevant to us in the real world.

And 0% interest rates leave a lot of money looking for a parking spot.

unblock

(52,116 posts)
11. Well it's now down at the moment. It had been up 800
Fri Jun 12, 2020, 02:19 PM
Jun 2020

Their headline will catch up, sometimes they can be hours behind during the day

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
12. After the open, it approached 26,000 which is an appreciable rise. It's only +68 last I just checked
Fri Jun 12, 2020, 02:23 PM
Jun 2020

and S&P 500 just went red

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,462 posts)
17. The Dow is cut off from economic realities.
Fri Jun 12, 2020, 04:12 PM
Jun 2020

It's puffed up with bullshit and questionable shady finances and stock buybacks.

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