I had this policeman friend who killed a man

at the initial time of attempted stop.

If the cops have reason to believe he's a murderer escaped from the Pen ... okay.

had something inside that would have been illegal.

But was it worth the life of an innocent? HELL NO.

Unless you, as the cop, know it's a weapon, and that the suspect intends to use it to harm the public, in which case it MAY be deemed worth the risks inherent in a high-speed pursuit.

An occasion which occurs presumably next-to-never.

The cops have radios, and can call on other cops to pick up the chase. It's still not worth killing innocent people.

for them. All the TeeVee stations will pre-empt regular programming to show them in progress. I haven't noticed any lately -- I hope all PD's rethink involvement in such activity.

they passed a law against high speed chases in the city. I think all the Bay Area has that law.

WITHOUT his lights flashing. She was broadsided and broke her ankle etc.

Police were not held accountable - she should have paid more attn...............

right in front of an oncoming fire truck. That's why I had stopped. Fortunately they avoided me, but THEY called 911 and the cops were there in a couple of minutes.

If they murdered they deserve to be cursed forever and foreafter.

i thought most pd's had a limit on hot pursuits like that.

By contract we had to have an off duty cop w/squad car on site, at all times. They were not to pursue traffic violators. They were there in the capacity of emergency responders.
One of these heroes left the job to chase a speeder. He was gone about 25 minutes. When he returned our foreman asked why he'd taken it upon himself to leave his post. When told that he was our employee for the time he was assigned to us and that he could not leave the site (we paid the police force directly, per contract) his response was belligerency and he simply left the site in the middle of the day. We complained to the city and he never worked on our site again. The thing is, we were in violation of our contract when he was off site. I was concerned for our liability, still, for us to quit work when he was gone would have cost productivity, workers' income and about $4,000.00 demobilization / remobilization.

years and he always said, "NEVER pursue." You radio ahead and somebody else can head them off or nab them later. And if it's a stolen car, hopefully you'll catch them eventually when they steal another one. There's too much risk in doing what your friend did. Did he still have a job?

I am 64.
I've had it happen to friends for that long.

because of this type of scenario of innocent bystanders getting killed accidentally. So of course people abuse it. We also have surveillance cameras everywhere so their plan is to catch them later when they park or stop somewhere.

...first day on the job. Cop got a RADAR alert of a speeder doing 90 on the interstate. A tractor trailer blew by. Sounds dangerous to me and probably a good idea to pursue but maybe also call it in and use extreme caution pursuing. While making a u-turn in the median, this first day rookie was killed by the second tractor trailer trying to race the first one.

There's a difference between accidents and unintended consequences.

It's an accident if I trip and fall. It's not an accident if I fall while trying to walk a tightrope.

The unintended results of risky behavior should never be excused as an accident. Then we can have a reasonable discussion about acceptable levels of risk and the risk/benefits of a particular risky behavior. As others have noted, many (most? all?) police departments have policies against high speed chases now. I'm disgusted if it's not 100%.

Sorry to be pedantic about this, but "accident" is a trigger word for me!

A quick google and it seems high speed chases are still routine in a lot of districts. Obscene.

I thought giving tickets based on speed cameras had been declared unconstitutional, but we have speed cameras here in King County, WA, so they must be OK after all.

Given that, there's no reason to pull drivers over for minor speeding offences and creating potentially dangerous traffic situations at all, let alone chase after them.

But because even citations had to prove that the person being cited had recd the summons personally.

Once that became widely known then everyone stopped mailing in the tickets and they pulled the system.

In Scottsdale they still use them and my housemate got a ticket in the mail.

They have a time limit and Scottsdale sent a server a couple of times but I was able to create doubt on whether this was his primary residence (with truthful answers) so they couldn't leave a served notice.

If anybody calls in and asks about a ticket that is evidence that the ticket has been served and is enforceable, at least in Arizona.

you might be able to out run the car but you can not get away from the radio.

Follow close enough to report when suspect is turn and other info.

Dispatch can pre-stage others including get out the tire spikes.

An office in a close town, back when I was with regional 911, nearly lost his life
playing "John Wayne".
Started pursuit of of vehicle on traffic stop [tail light if I remember], then fled, he followed.
Ended up in the "less desirable" side of town, suspect pulled in a drive when followed by office.
They jumped so did he and he to a 357 in the inner thigh just missing the artery.

Problem: he never notified dispatch where they were going and he nearly lost his life.