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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAnyone here NOT a baby boomer?
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I'm a baby boomer, and I was just wondering what you all thought of the "Ok, Boomer" meme.
You know, the one where all the world's problems are blamed on us.
Personally, I kind of agree with all of that, but remember one thing.
The generations after you will do the same thing to you.
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Skittles
(153,193 posts)you know, they try to equate the experiences young folk have today to the ones we had "back in the day" - it makes them sound foolish and out of touch
Amy-Strange
(854 posts)-
you're right.
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d_r
(6,907 posts)Sorry
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,437 posts)I am not a boomer.
vercetti2021
(10,156 posts)I'm 29 and I know eventually we will be called something by gen z and whichever gen is next in line. But I've only used boomer against old Republicans
ret5hd
(20,522 posts)(I kid I kid.)
vercetti2021
(10,156 posts)I can see that
RandySF
(59,234 posts)And I hate this Ok Boomer shit.
lapucelle
(18,336 posts)hlthe2b
(102,376 posts)Amy-Strange
(854 posts)-
sorry, I couldn't help myself, but I do like your sig.
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Amy-Strange
(854 posts)-
It's refreshing to hear that.
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SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)misanthrope
(7,428 posts)We hoped we could change the world in ways but were never so arrogant as to believe it would bow down before us.
Croney
(4,670 posts)Even the teenagers have stopped saying OK Boomer to each other without understanding it but cackling with laughter anyway.
Amy-Strange
(854 posts)-
was our chant against you guys in the 60s.
Seems like only yesterday (I wish)!
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Just last month. My high-school class (West Chester (PA) High, Class of 63) had 320 people in it. The next year's class, from exactly the same geographic area, had 650. Boom!
I think we're called The Silent Generation. Or Beatniks (I did try to play bongos at one point, but because Feynman did.)
"war babies" as far as I've read.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)The last year, 1963. I will be 57 in exactly one month. Personally, it doesn't bother me that much because I don't take it to heart. Generations are always blaming each other for their problems. I pretty much ignore it. People do the best they can given their circumstances. I see no point in pitting each other against one another.
Amy-Strange
(854 posts)-
what bothers me the most about this generational thing is that a lot of people from other generations dismiss the music from past generations, and I think that is just plain wrong.
I remember when everyone started to say Disco sucked, but it's interesting to note that while they're saying that during a disco song, a lot of them were also tapping their feet to the beat.
I'm 63, and still love the music from my youth, but I also love today's music.
My favorite artist right now is Rhiannon. She's awesome!
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smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)silent generation.
Much more, but that is the general type of music I love to listen to.
Amy-Strange
(854 posts)-
my favorite are the Jazz and Swing Bands from that time, and of course, my all time favorite is "In the Mood" by Benny Goodman!
Also, the big-time one that everyone has heard at least once, but not everyone knows the name, "Auld Land Syne" by Guy Lombardo.
Probably the Silent Generation's biggest hit.
Thank you!
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smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I thought "In the Mood" was Glenn Miller, though? Maybe Benny did it too. Also love Artie Shaw, Count Basie, Harry James, Tommy Dorsey, Duke Ellington, etc. I absolutely love that music!
Here's one of my faves by Benny...
And his clarinetist rival, Artie Shaw, with "Begin the Beguine"...
Amy-Strange
(854 posts)-
Where did I get Benny Goodman from?
I have the song on my iPhone, copied it from there, but when I looked again, I was wrong.
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llmart
(15,553 posts)I dare anyone to not tap their foot to Swing, Swing, Swing. It just can't be done.
CottonBear
(21,596 posts)https://www.chronicle.com/article/Generation-Jones/145569
By Jeffrey J. Williams MARCH 31, 2014
One of my colleagues went to Woodstock and another lived in Haight-Ashbury in 1969. While theyve cut their hair since, theyre obviously baby boomers, and they sometimes tell me stories about protesting the Vietnam War, smuggling dope, and seeing Bob Dylan in concert. The strange thing is that Im supposedly a baby boomer, since I was born in December 1958, but their stories recount a distant world. I only vaguely remember Vietnam on the news, have no memory of JFK, and find Bob Dylan grating. The events that made an impression on me were the Watergate hearings, stagflation, and the Carter and Reagan presidencies. Our music was different, tooOK, lets forget Journey, but in our early 20s, we raised our lighters to some remarkable bands, like U2, the Cure, and, born in my year, Prince and Madonna.
According to standard accounts, the boomer generation encompasses those born in the long span between the mid-1940s and mid-1960s. But those born in the later 1950s through the early 1960s, like Barack Obama (b. 1961), have a different sensibility than those like Bill Clinton and George W. Bush (both b. 1946). They came of age after the 60s. The cultural commentator and marketing consultant Jonathan Pontell has named them Generation Jones.
Pontell defines Jonesers as those born from 1954 to 1965, distinguishing them from boomers proper, born from 1942 to 1953, as well as from Generation X, born from 1966 to the late 1970s. Vietnam is a key coordinate: 1954 was the first birth year of those who came of age as the war was ending and who didnt have to serve.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/timeline.com/amp/p/923270cb2010
https://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/06/booming/i-may-be-50-but-dont-call-me-a-boomer.html?_r=1
stopwastingmymoney
(2,042 posts)My hubs is 1961 and I think hell enjoy this
Marking to read to him in the morning, thanks!
CottonBear
(21,596 posts)Its very interesting!
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I never really did relate to the boomers, so I guess that explains things a bit better.
Thanks for that!
CottonBear
(21,596 posts)I graduated from high school and college in the 1980s. Im definitely not a boomer.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I certainly feel better about being of Generation Jones!
ProfessorGAC
(65,191 posts)1956 here, so a little older than those named, but I came of age DURING Vietnam and Nixon.
I'm sure that shaped my world view.
People who were in their 20s when Nixon was elected might have had their general view of things already settled to some degree by then.
I think most of have their worldview foundation laid ages 14 to 24. After that the smart ones make modest adjustments as more learning allows more specificity on issues.
CottonBear
(21,596 posts)I came of age during the 70s & early 80s.
RandySF
(59,234 posts)Broke barriers for women, people of color and the LGBT community.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)Neither give a shit about the OK Boomer saying. Could not care less if aimed at Gen Xers.
We dont Facebook and have real lives to live. Never really cared what strangers say. Find it confusing that so many do.
Generally just laugh a shit like this.
Got to get the boat ready for fishing next week. And some grass seed to sow.
sakabatou
(42,174 posts)Happy Hoosier
(7,392 posts)NCDem47
(2,250 posts)Too old for Snapchat. Too young for Medicare.
Glorfindel
(9,736 posts)having been born three days before the signing of the Japanese Instrument of Surrender. I think the "OK, Boomer" thing is silly, but no sillier than my generation's saying, "Don't trust anyone over 30." (Turning 30 almost broke my heart...everything after that has been quite easy.)
Amy-Strange
(854 posts)-
it's probably the only good thing about getting old.
Of course getting old is easy, because all you really have to do is wait!
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Trailrider1951
(3,414 posts)Who knew? Tell me more....
Amy-Strange
(854 posts)-
the shop I go to, if you spend at least 30$, gives a 10% discount to military, and anyone over 55, and some other people too, but I don't think that includes LE.
I always ask for the discount, and then almost always put it in the tip jar.
Customer service is a tough job.
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Trailrider1951
(3,414 posts)but I don't think my local shop offers a discount. And they don't have tip jars. I always get smiles and friendly service, so it's all good!
TalenaGor
(1,104 posts)Srkdqltr
(6,322 posts)I was baptized on Pearl Harbor day. My grandfather always said that was the day the world exploded.
NoMoreRepugs
(9,462 posts)for any of the generations behind us to have it as good as we did (collectively) for their entire lifetimes like so many of us have.
cayugafalls
(5,645 posts)Started protesting at 9 years old. I was part of the desegregation movement in the late 60's and early 70's and was bused across town as part of that effort in St Petersburg, Florida. It was a unique experience and helped me understand a lot.
I continued to protest until the war ended and then got lazy when my family moved to Texas and I started getting beat up by the rednecks here (I was a long haired hippy kid...).
So I am OK with someone blaming boomers for the problems of today. We did kind of drop the ball and stop protesting once the war was over and we graduated college and started families. We did not complete the job.
I think this time is different, the level of knowledge and understanding by this generation far exceeds our own. They seem ready for the long haul. They are not going to become the generation that let it slip away.
I am putting a lot of faith in my son and his peers. They tell me they got this and I believe him.
cabot
(724 posts)Sandwiched between baby boomers and millennials...we are the forgotten ones.
soothsayer
(38,601 posts)Probably because we dont fit anywhere.
cabot
(724 posts)And I've noticed that a lot of people who are wearing masks during the pandemic are GenX. Must be because we came of age during the HIV/AIDs era when being "safe" was hammered into our heads.
Bettie
(16,126 posts)that's all.
meadowlander
(4,406 posts)and recommend watching this excellent lecture all the way through:
"The generations after you will do the same thing to you."
This assumes:
a. that there are generations that will still be around when I'm retirement age;
b. that I'm ever able to retire;
c. that my generation also sucks up all the housing wealth, retirement benefits, health care funding, non-renewable energy sources, etc. while cutting education funding, turning a blind eye to mounting student debt and wealth inequality, etc. and passing all of the environmental costs on to future generations to deal with.
I don't think "OK Boomer" is a particularly helpful meme but it functions as a kind of short-hand for "maybe a generation with such an abysmal record on intergenerational equity shouldn't be lecturing young people about what they choose to spend their money on".
Talking about the generation in aggregate, obviously. #Notallboomers.
GreenEyedLefty
(2,073 posts)Music Man
(1,184 posts)I think "OK, Boomer" is a stupid phrase. There are better and worse boomers. I know many who have retained the hippie traits of their youth. I'm also not sure Baby Boomers give young folks any more hell than the Greatest Generation or Gen X do.
In fact, Gen X voted for Trump in 2016 and has often exhibited conservative traits. Maybe it was growing up listening to Reagan's shit that did it.
I find "OK, Boomer" to be unnecessarily divisive. I'm over it.
hamsterjill
(15,224 posts)I think lumping an entire generation of people into one category, set of values, whatever... is a form of discrimination. Im not responsible for what others my age do or have done. Im responsible for what I do individually.
Just my opinion...
EllieBC
(3,042 posts)Honestly I find it funny how the boomers and millennials tear into each other considering many millennials are the children of boomers.
And Im happy to be part of the largely forgotten generation.
MustLoveBeagles
(11,636 posts)MustLoveBeagles
(11,636 posts)There are good and bad people in every generation mine included. (Gen X)
Wolf Frankula
(3,601 posts)I don't fit any of the Boomer stereotypes.
Wolf
tinrobot
(10,916 posts)I knew I wasn't a boomer and wasn't quite Gen X.
Happy to finally figure out that I'm the weird middle child of the generation gap.
ironflange
(7,781 posts)The wife and I could be poster children for Generation Jones.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)DU trends very old, but we have plenty of GenX and some Millennials here.
I like OK Boomer. Its funny when used properly.
JonAndKatePlusABird
(314 posts)Only 32 years old here.
Personally, no issue whatsoever with ok boomer. My parents are boomers, and Ive talked about this with them and their friends. Theyre not bothered by it.
Among my friends, we laugh about how growing up, we were lectured constantly by teachers and parents about the evils of the internet, how nothing you read online is true and not to be trusted. God forbid you were to cite a (gasp!) website when writing a paper. Nope, only the 1995 edition of encyclopedia Britannica had the real facts!
And now? Its become a freaking trope, all our parents and their friends sharing bullshit fake news on Facebook, all concerned about their kids living in a city, all freaking out over complete BS.
Maybe its a generational human thing, the younger generation feels that the older generation is full of shit, and the feeling is mutual. But me personally, I can think of several specific examples where looking back, the adult in charge was clearly faking it and lying their asses off. And when those same people were sanctimoniously telling us that wed all end up like them, when we got older and understood,...... all I can do is smile when people dont pay them the attention they never deserved.
And now time to return to my millennial Antifa avacado toast party where nobody works and all just mooch off our parents whilst living in their basements.
mvd
(65,180 posts)I dont think the Boomers are only to blame. Millennials are more progressive overall, but too often dont participate in the process enough.
RANDYWILDMAN
(2,675 posts)and yeah my fox loving mom is an Ok, Boomer and she doesn't even know it.
My grandparents are the Greatest and they were some of the most racist people you will ever know.
Mom has trans friend and is for Gay marriage, so, she evolved in some ways.
Let's just hope each generation evoles from the last.
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)whttevrr
(2,345 posts)If anyone is insulted by this, maybe they should check the privilege they squandered.
budkin
(6,716 posts)Born in 1976.
canetoad
(17,186 posts)Why attempt to pit generation against generation?
Amy-Strange
(854 posts)-
thank you for bringing it to my attention.
I'll try and remember that in the future, but interestingly enough, the response was mostly positive.
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ansible
(1,718 posts)On one hand you've got people still using paper checks, on the other you've got people who love Tiktok. There's almost nothing in common between both anymore.
a la izquierda
(11,797 posts)Im a cusp kid.
ellie
(6,929 posts)I wouldn't take OK, Boomer personally if I were you.
Buns_of_Fire
(17,196 posts)The "OK, Boomer" stuff never bothered me. I figure that each generation will have its high spots, and each generation will also discover new and exciting ways to screw things up.
Amy-Strange
(854 posts)-
Meetings are every Wednesday at 2 am.
It used to be in the afternoon, but I think my cat's been plotting against me, and I had to move it.
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LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)You're investing enough emotion and offense into this to hope they are victims of the same petulant name calling. Seems to reflect as poorly on you as it does them.
Try letting shit go... or get offended by it. Your choice of course.
But one of those choices is a complete and abject waste of time.
Amy-Strange
(854 posts)-
also a waste of time?
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cwydro
(51,308 posts)I've worked hard my entire life, and I have a comfortable home and life.
I've stood up for those who are sometimes trampled upon, and I've been one trampled upon.
Good luck to them all, and I hope they all know or learn the value of hard work. I wish them all the joy of growing old enough to be called names by young people.
I also wish them the wisdom to know that being called names reflects only on those who call the names.
Amy-Strange
(854 posts)-
I like that.
It's blunt, not too mean, and also a kind of gentleman's way of telling someone where to get off.
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BigDemVoter
(4,157 posts)They and their generation all were old enough to vote in 2016 and Pussy-Grabbere won. . . Future generations will lump them in with everyone else to blame for allowing Pussy-Grabber into the White House.
Amy-Strange
(854 posts)-
I also think that this time, we can give due credit to all the other gens (and Boomers too) for making this happen.
Believe me, this time is gonna be different.
I can feel it, and even more important, I know it.
Someday, I'll tell you all about my Super Bowl prediction that blew everyone's mind away.
I felt, and knew for a freakin' fact, that a specific team, a team that had never won the Super Bowl before, was gonna win it that year... before the season started.
I didn't feel it, or hoped it would happen, but knew for a FACT THAT IT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.
This election is a sure things, folks, and thanks to all the gens (in advance) for helping to get it done.
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