Interesting and tone deaf response

[angrychair]

From Cuomo:

.@NYGovCuomo suggests protesters pack it up, in light of new reforms: "People are still out protesting. You don’t need to protest. You won. You won. You accomplished your goal. Society says, you’re right. The police need systemic reform.”

This guy is burning through his good will fast

Link to tweet

?s=19

[soothsayer]

1. To be fair...he's giving communities 9 months...

To decide, together with all the affected authorities, how they want to reform, reinvent, and reimagine their police departments. They have until April 1.

So...he’s kind of telling the truth. Now people need to get to work and figure out what they want and who’s going to lead these efforts.

[angrychair]

13. Could not disagree more

The protesting is the only voice and advantage we have.

"Discuss reforms" and "we will look into it" is classic govt bait and switch.

[Doodley]

2. How does he explain a president who won't even accept there's a problem?

[soothsayer]

4. Policing is local

Presidents don’t figure into it much, but the feds COULD support with chokehold bans and such.

[Doodley]

16. I think Trump is very much part of the problem. He sets the tone, and

we know what his tone is with statements like "hit their heads a little harder when you put them in the police van."

[delisen]

6. Presidents don't run police departments in the states

[Doodley]

17. Presidents are supposed to be leaders. No, they don't run police departments, but

Trump's dismissiveness of the BLM movement is one reason he is sinking in the polls.

[BlueLucy]

30. The DOJ sets policy.

This is Trump's DOJ

[Skittles]

7. the entire GOP denies there's a problem

ignorance is a huge part of their party platform

[soothsayer]

10. Sure, but that's not this

He’s giving power to the people.

[Skittles]

11. by failing with the checks and balances

they all are

[soothsayer]

3. If they don't reform by April 1, no funding

Link to tweet

?s=21

Today the hard work of change begins.

I signed an Executive Order saying that police agencies MUST sit down w/ community & adopt reform plans by April 1 to be eligible for state funds.

It's time to put pen to paper & enact systemic reform.

No reform - No funding.

[angrychair]

15. He might genuinely mean it

But the person with all the power is asking those with none but their collective power to protest to give up that power on a "let's talk about it and maybe we will implement some reforms sometime in the future"

Its rings of classic political bait and switch.

[Doodley]

18. Exactly. He's dismissing any ongoing protests as pointless. That doesn't

sound like he is listening.

[Skittles]

5. I think at this point

they are also protesting a "president" who not only doesn't care, but cannot seem to hide his supremacist tendencies

[soothsayer]

9. Well that's fair but I think he was talking to...

The “defund the police” protesters.

[soothsayer]

8. He did say if they don't want to change that's ok

They just have to sign off on that to not lose funding.

[c-rational]

12. I have been very appreciative of my governor, but on this I agree he is somewhat tone deaf. The

protests are not just local but national. We may be seeing better change local, but still a slow walk nationally. Also, these protests are about not only injustice to blacks but injustice in our society, politics, economics. I am happy to see the protests continue.

[soothsayer]

14. That's fair

I do hope people take him up on this, though. Seems like an amazing opportunity.

[Doodley]

19. Real change will happen if Trump is booted out of office. The protests

are helping that to happen. They are setting the agenda and Trump and the GOP are failing to even acknowledge there is a problem. So, I agree about the advantages of continuing protests.

[flotsam]

20. Why not ask the black community

...if they're tired of seeing white people joining their protests?

[marmar]

21. Huh?

[flotsam]

23. Cuomo thinks it is enough that he is convinced

but perhaps the black community is enjoying the ongoing participation of whites. And just maybe this ongoing melding of outrage is a good thing. And oh yeah, another black man was murdered on camera in Atlanta yesterday so it would seem the police are not yet onboard...

[marmar]

25. Oh. I misunderstood. Claro que si.

[flotsam]

26. I failed to be clear enough in my post

and your question helped. Thanks!

[Mike 03]

22. I like Governor Cuomo, but he's missing an important point on the protests.

Many of these protests are sympathetic. Maybe NY is on the road to solving its problems, but the protesters are not just out there for New Yorkers, but for other locations in the US where police are out of control. There are George Floyd protests in Europe.

We had a protest here in my little dinky town, not to protest our police (who actually escorted and protected the protesters) but the endemic problem.

I also believe these protests reflect distrust and disdain for Trump's sheer ignorance on this issue, so there's a conflation going on that still needs to be addressed (mostly by voting him out in November) but the protesters are sending a message to Trump too IMO.

[lame54]

24. Money where your mouth is dude

[angrychair]

27. Sorry

What does that mean?

Right now the person with all the power is asking those with none but their collective power to protest to give up that power on a "let's talk about it and maybe we will implement some reforms sometime in the future"

It rings of classic political bait and switch.

[lame54]

28. The dude in question is Cuomo...

Hearing them is not good enough
They should not be expected to let up until they see results

[angrychair]

29. Absolutely agree. N/T