Are police incentivized financially to escalate situations to violence?

[uponit7771]

There has to be money in it or something !!

After weeks of people around ... THE WORLD ... protesting against police violence and racism the police in America return with more police violence and racism.

ON CAMERA !!

Over and over again we see LEO's escalate situations into violence like they were trained or taught or incentivized in some way to make the situation violent as possible first.

There has to be money in it, something has to tell all these cops shoot a person get paid or something.

askin for a friend (me)

[pwb]

1. Lots of overtime. Shots fired and the entire department answers the call.

Then they stand around for days investigating.

You are right it is about money and ballooning their pensions.

[sop]

2. "The Link Between Money and Aggressive Policing"

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-link-between-money-and-aggressive-policing

[uponit7771]

9. +1, damn ... so the answer is yes

[Under The Radar]

3. Are there kick backs from the private prison system that lead to arrest quotas?

[Iggo]

7. .

[sop]

11. Judge sentences juveniles to private detention centers, receives $2.6M in kickbacks from facilities.

Here's a NYT piece about a Pa. judge who sentenced juveniles to private, for-profit detention centers and received $2.6 Million in kickbacks from the corporation who ran the facilities:

(NYTimes) "Judge Mark A. Ciavarella Jr. and a colleague, Michael T. Conahan, appeared in federal court in Scranton, Pa., to plead guilty...for taking more than $2.6 million in kickbacks to send teenagers to two privately run youth detention centers...Judge Conahan secured contracts for the two centers to house juvenile offenders, Judge Ciavarella...carried out the sentencing to keep the centers filled."

https://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/13/us/13judge.html

[Under The Radar]

14. Yea that is too common. Arkansas can hold parole

...violators in prison indefinitely without a trial, which was the work product of a Democratic Governor Mike Beebe sitting with a Republican legislature. Even a suspended Drivers license resulted in 5 1/2 years for one Iraq war Vet who was on parole for resisting arrest because of his loud car stereo, which resulted in 9 years on his initial arrest.
Still don’t understand why that law wasn’t challenged in Supreme Court.

[handmade34]

4. don't think so...

just personal animus and racial prejudice... people act on those feelings w/o monetary reward

[grumpyduck]

5. A number of years ago we got caught in one of those

DUI checkpoint scams.

I started chatting with one of the cops, and it turned out that the fines went to some agency that turned around and gave the money to the police department to pay for overtime. IOW, perpetual motion.

Doing some research afterwards, it turned out that there's a whole industry supporting these checkpoints. So yeah, there's money in it.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

12. Same goes for asset forfeiture.

Cops stopped intercepting drugs coming north. They only want the cash going south.

Police agencies even go so far to recruit cops that have a talent for sniffing out cash away from other shops.

[Iggo]

6. They're not building prisons to NOT put people in prison.

[Generic Brad]

17. Prisons provide slave labor

While I agree with all this talk about the need for police reform, I think we also need to discuss a massive of overhaul of our judicial and prison system. And that would include elimination of private "for profit" prisons.

We need a rehabilitation model more than a punitive one.

[Nitram]

8. Even without the money, there are cops who get off on humiliating and dominating other people.

They cannot abide any hint of disrespect or resistance, and want to leave the subject with a humiliating memory of their inability to stand up against police authority. And then there are the racists, who will use any opportunity to humiliate, injure, or kill a person of color. They would do that for free.

[jmg257]

10. I would say, in the vast majority of such cases, no.

Never saw it, never heard it, never got wind of even a hint of it.

But ya never know.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

13. I think a lot of it has to do with the advent of dash cams in the 80s

Seeing video of cops getting killed during routine traffic stops and interactions just makes the cops that much more paranoid.


They train these cops on worse case scenarios and drill through their head that every contact could be fatal. Seeing it on camera drives that point home. They’ve turned a one in a million thing into a shoot first and ask questions later policy.

Maybe I’m mistaken but I thought cops used to get in trouble when they shot someone who turned out to not have a weapon. Now all they need is to be frightened. That and African American men always seem to be itching their waistband without a gun present. Must be genetic

[uponit7771]

18. I've heard about this before, cops go in wanting to save the world then get shocked by seeing dash..

... cam videos of cops getting killed trying to save the world

Its an emotional shock so it sticks with them ...

Hmmm

[Mariana]

15. I think a lot of them simply enjoy engaging in violence.

It makes them feel good, they get off on it.

[Wounded Bear]

16. Apparently, there is more paperwork if you arrest somebody...

rather than just shoot them in the street.