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Demovictory9

(32,444 posts)
Mon Jun 15, 2020, 05:11 PM Jun 2020

Justice Gorsuch fires a torpedo at Trump's re-election

Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch fired a torpedo at President Trump's re-election campaign on Monday morning. That almost certainly wasn't his intent, but it will be the political effect of the majority decision he authored in Bostock v. Clayton County and Altitude Express Inc. v. Zarda.

Progressives will cheer the high court's 6-3 decision, ruling that Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 protects gay and transgender Americans from discrimination in employment. But the fact that the majority decision was authored by Gorsuch and joined by Chief Justice John Roberts, leaving just three of the court's five conservatives in lonely dissent, will have explosive implications on the right.

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Only after Trump had locked down the nomination and pledged to appoint judges to the federal courts who had been verified as reliably conservative by the right-leaning legal organization The Federalist Society did these crucially important groups come around to supporting the ideologically and temperamentally unorthodox (and morally repellant) nominee.

These voters stuck with Trump through the election and have become some of his most loyal supporters ever since for one reason above all others: because Trump vowed to deliver the federal courts to social conservatives. Trump made good on this promise right out of the gate by nominating conservative Gorsuch to the seat on the Supreme Court formerly held by Antonin Scalia, who died in February 2016 and whose seat Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell had held open through the remainder of Barack Obama's final year in office.


When Trump critics accused social conservatives of having sold their souls to a president unworthy of their adoration, the stock response was now "But Gorsuch!" Translation: Trump might have flaws, but he promised to deliver us the judiciary, and on that he's made good! No matter what happened over the coming decades in the political arena, conservatives had captured the courts, and that would ensure victories on the issues that really matter to the religious right: protecting the unborn and religious freedom, and limiting gay and transgender rights.

With his 29-page majority opinion in Bostock, Gorsuch blew that electoral rationale out of the water. Scholars can debate the legal ins and outs of the decision. In political terms, the result is going to be an earthquake to rival the one that reverberated throughout the right in the wake of Planned Parenthood v. Casey, the 1992 decision in which Republican appointees Kennedy, David Souter, and Sandra Day O'Connor joined with the court's liberals to uphold the reproductive rights of women.

https://theweek.com/articles/920057/justice-gorsuch-fires-torpedo-trumps-reelection

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Justice Gorsuch fires a torpedo at Trump's re-election (Original Post) Demovictory9 Jun 2020 OP
Well sure, but the easy christofascist answer to this is, of course... Thomas Hurt Jun 2020 #1
Their easier answer is ... Martin Eden Jun 2020 #28
Exactly, so DownriverDem Jun 2020 #30
This is sometimes what happens when you give someone a lifetime appointment: CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2020 #2
I think that's exactly what happened Peggy. He voted his conscience above all considerations. trickyguy Jun 2020 #22
oh wow Skittles Jun 2020 #3
The Gorsuch Appointment True Blue American Jun 2020 #5
Federalist Is Right Leaning? ProfessorGAC Jun 2020 #4
We need to find that misplaced saw. Hermit-The-Prog Jun 2020 #14
Not A Power Tool Guy ProfessorGAC Jun 2020 #34
ProfessorGAC.....I almost choked when Upthevibe Jun 2020 #37
Nice one HuskyOffset Jun 2020 #40
Why wouldn't it simply make those who want a RW court to double down on the need to reelect onenote Jun 2020 #6
Exactly LeftInTX Jun 2020 #41
Neil Souter. roamer65 Jun 2020 #7
Go you one better: Earl Warren Old Terp Jun 2020 #8
Big one mountain grammy Jun 2020 #18
Yep. paleotn Jun 2020 #10
There's something strange about the SCOTUS... paleotn Jun 2020 #9
Quite amazing the change when they don't have political pandering to do anymore. roamer65 Jun 2020 #11
Many Justices have flipped ideology a bit bucolic_frolic Jun 2020 #12
Glad for this decision mountain grammy Jun 2020 #13
That's what got him on the court, may not be what is in his soul grantcart Jun 2020 #15
I hope you're right. mountain grammy Jun 2020 #19
Yeah, this is good but I'm not getting too excited either. calimary Jun 2020 #17
Yeah, me too mountain grammy Jun 2020 #21
You and me both, my friend. calimary Jun 2020 #27
No, not cynical. You are being a realist. BigmanPigman Jun 2020 #32
I'm not sure we should be comfortable analyzing S.C. justices actions. erronis Jun 2020 #16
"k-brew"! That's GREAT, erronis! calimary Jun 2020 #20
Yep. Well said. mountain grammy Jun 2020 #35
No doubt trump has been on the phone for hours asking Barr how he can fire him. George II Jun 2020 #23
A new Executive Order keithbvadu2 Jun 2020 #25
Good! NT warmfeet Jun 2020 #24
Irrespective of this valuable decision, if we get an overwhelming command of the Senate... NNadir Jun 2020 #26
Yeah they will whine and complain but in the end... BadGimp Jun 2020 #29
wasn't it the Heritage Foundation that he promised to use? SleeplessinSoCal Jun 2020 #31
Interesting. nt crickets Jun 2020 #43
Gems from FReeperland Tarc Jun 2020 #33
Down the rabbit hole mountain grammy Jun 2020 #36
yep Demovictory9 Jun 2020 #39
Thank you for the post...n/t Upthevibe Jun 2020 #38
We'll see how they vote on the 26th Amendment case LeftInTX Jun 2020 #42

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
1. Well sure, but the easy christofascist answer to this is, of course...
Mon Jun 15, 2020, 05:20 PM
Jun 2020

Gorsuch is a filthy socialist and fooled everyone in right wing leadership.

Someone is to blame, but it isn't Dear Leader.

DownriverDem

(6,227 posts)
30. Exactly, so
Mon Jun 15, 2020, 07:59 PM
Jun 2020

sometimes we on the left get lucky. We still can't count on Gorsuch or Roberts, but it appears they will surprise us once in a while.

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,560 posts)
2. This is sometimes what happens when you give someone a lifetime appointment:
Mon Jun 15, 2020, 05:24 PM
Jun 2020

They are freed from the constraints of worrying about whether or not their behavior will affect their long-term job.

It won't, probably.

They are then free to decide based on what they really think, and this can lead to decisions like this one.

trickyguy

(769 posts)
22. I think that's exactly what happened Peggy. He voted his conscience above all considerations.
Mon Jun 15, 2020, 07:04 PM
Jun 2020

I'm totally celebrating this decision which has been a long time coming.

I worked a lot for gay marriage, but I always felt that job discrimination was

the larger issue.

Can't really express the joy I feel about what happened today.

I hope the pResident and his cronies have a big lump in their throats over this.

Congratulations to all my fellow LGBT Americans who fought hard for the win.





Skittles

(153,138 posts)
3. oh wow
Mon Jun 15, 2020, 05:28 PM
Jun 2020

night worker here, I woke up to the great news but I did not realize Gorsuch actually AUTHORED the opinion.....I'll give him points but I'll never forget that he sits on a STOLEN SC SEAT

True Blue American

(17,982 posts)
5. The Gorsuch Appointment
Mon Jun 15, 2020, 05:35 PM
Jun 2020

Kind of backfired on Mitch and Trump, huh? He is free of constraints.

Even Kavenaugh has joined in a few fair decisions.

ProfessorGAC

(64,963 posts)
34. Not A Power Tool Guy
Mon Jun 15, 2020, 08:19 PM
Jun 2020

But I've got 3 branch saws & I know exactly where they are.
We each get one, and we start on each side and saw toward each other!

HuskyOffset

(888 posts)
40. Nice one
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 02:28 PM
Jun 2020

That actually made me chuckle out loud, not only because it's true and a nice turn of phrase, but also because it will give a bunch of people a way to remember that starboard=right.

onenote

(42,671 posts)
6. Why wouldn't it simply make those who want a RW court to double down on the need to reelect
Mon Jun 15, 2020, 05:39 PM
Jun 2020

Trump so that future vacancies are filled by him, not a Democrat? If they don't think Gorsuch is reliable the answer for them will be to add someone more reliable than Gorsuch as soon as they can.

LeftInTX

(25,205 posts)
41. Exactly
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 03:20 PM
Jun 2020

Also this is one decision with Kavanaugh, Alito and Thomas dissenting.
If Trump gets a 2nd term, there will be more openings on the bench.
RWingers were having a sad yesterday, but they will double down before we know it.

mountain grammy

(26,608 posts)
18. Big one
Mon Jun 15, 2020, 06:58 PM
Jun 2020

From being the driving force to put Japanese Americans in concentration camps as gov of California to ruling against segregation in Brown and other cases.. Pretty controversial man who facilitated big progress .

I always wondered if his time as Chief Justice, striking down conservative laws and Jim Crow while confirming the rights of people accused of crimes, was atonement for past misdeeds.. He became a liberal.

paleotn

(17,902 posts)
9. There's something strange about the SCOTUS...
Mon Jun 15, 2020, 06:15 PM
Jun 2020

More than a few times, we've seen supposedly conservative judges appointed by conservatives take a turn to the side of fairness. Not on all matters, but occasionally when it really matters. Today and Roberts saving the ACA are only the two most recent examples.

bucolic_frolic

(43,115 posts)
12. Many Justices have flipped ideology a bit
Mon Jun 15, 2020, 06:20 PM
Jun 2020

We don't agree with many of them, but they have studied and learned minds. Being a toadstool does not sit well.

mountain grammy

(26,608 posts)
13. Glad for this decision
Mon Jun 15, 2020, 06:37 PM
Jun 2020

but Gorsuch is a winger..always has been. Long family tradition .

Not getting my hopes up.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
15. That's what got him on the court, may not be what is in his soul
Mon Jun 15, 2020, 06:49 PM
Jun 2020

What is so sensational about this decision is not that he voted with the majority but that he is writing the decision. That is a direct slap in Trump's face.

Don't know how many slaps he has in him but will take everyone I can get.

Gorsuch may like the attention and peer approval of being the next swing justice. It's the swing justices that have all the power.

calimary

(81,179 posts)
17. Yeah, this is good but I'm not getting too excited either.
Mon Jun 15, 2020, 06:57 PM
Jun 2020

Just watch - the next ruling he'll be securely on the wrong side.

If trump thought he was worthy of a Supreme Court nomination, I automatically figure there's something seriously and essentially rotten about him. I don't trust ANYBODY trump thinks is a worthy person. If he thinks they are, to me that automatically signals that they're NOTHING of the kind.

erronis

(15,216 posts)
16. I'm not sure we should be comfortable analyzing S.C. justices actions.
Mon Jun 15, 2020, 06:54 PM
Jun 2020

Especially the last two.

Gorsuch may be more ethical justice than the (r)epuglicons/fedsoc had thought. And then again, maybe not.

Kavananaugh [stet] is not as hard to read his compass.

However, who would have thought Anthony Kennedy would sell his seat to allow k-brew to take over?

We don't know that much about the justices inner workings. We don't know what personal pressures (bribery, blackmail, mental conditions) that they may be under. They are supposed to be representative of some idealistic "everyman" but they are all very far removed from any normal person.

NNadir

(33,511 posts)
26. Irrespective of this valuable decision, if we get an overwhelming command of the Senate...
Mon Jun 15, 2020, 07:17 PM
Jun 2020

...which is an outside possibility under the circumstances, we need to pack the court to make up for what the racist pig McConnell - Donnie and Putin's water boy - did to the nomination process.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
33. Gems from FReeperland
Mon Jun 15, 2020, 08:16 PM
Jun 2020
Trumpisourlastchance: It’s time to recognize that the nation we grew up in is dead. We will need to adapt to this new nation we’re in.
Balding_Eagle: Now that you’ve given up, are you going to change your screen name?
Trumpisourlastchance:May have to, we shall see.


I think this means that Gorsuch is the new Anthony Kennedy.
I think it means they rotate votes. Kavanaugh sat this one out and will take one for Team Uniparty later. We’re being played like a fiddle here.


Correct. You are more qualified to serve on the Court than Gorsuch. He’s now a judicial activist, amending laws that are within Congress’s purview to amend.



Such delicious, salty tears.
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