"TRUMP LOST THE ELECTION TODAY": Trumpers View Supreme Court Rulings as Betrayal.

[Soph0571]

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The damage is incalculable’. That’s right. A whole bunch of conservatives saw Trump for what he was and didn’t care because he would deliver them the Supreme Court they’d dreamed of for years that would stop all this hippie dippie welfare state nonsense Obummer was determined to foist on their America.

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But it gets better. The Supreme Court has also announced what cases they *won’t* be ruling on, many of which include Second Amendment cases

Supreme Court decides not to hear big gun-rights cases, dealing blow to Second Amendment activists
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/15/supreme-court-will-not-hear-gun-cases-blow-to-2nd-amendment-backers.html?__source=twitter%7Cmain]

The GOP and conservatives have used the Supreme Court as a rallying cry for voter turnout amongst their base for years. Now, when they are in most need of a new narrative to generate enthusiasm — especially in states where the GOP Senate is most at risk — they have found themselves abandoned by the very institution they sought to control even if it meant putting a traitor in the White House.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/6/15/1953340/--TRUMP-LOST-THE-ELECTION-TODAY-Trumpers-View-Supreme-Court-Rulings-as-Betrayal?utm_campaign=trending]

Biff, Baff, Uppercut Righties!!! hehehe

[coti]

1. Agreed that this is a huge wedge that needs to be sledgehammered down their throats. nt

[Eliot Rosewater]

2. Kavanaugh, alleged serial rapist, did not disappoint, ignored the law and decided against

human rights as we knew he would.

[bucolic_frolic]

17. Beerboiweeniewaver

please use real names

[Lucinda]

18. LOL

[Eliot Rosewater]

19. Oh god, at first I thought I had done something wrong

[leftieNanner]

22. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!

Thanks for the chuckle this afternoon!



I've always felt it was important to use proper names for things.

[secondwind]

38. Ahaha! 😂😂

[calimary]

43. bucolic_frolic for THE WIN!!!

I'd hate to think what you'd call trump...

[muntrv]

44. His name is not Booferman?

[JudyM]

51. FTW!

[BlancheSplanchnik]

75. ROFL!!

That’s him alright!!

[usaf-vet]

68. IGNORED! After this testimony in his nomination hearing. This is a rough transcript from the hearing

Yesterday: Below is a summary of an OP from 6/15/20
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=13598492

That time when Kamala pressed Kavanaugh on whether he agreed that LGBTQ had the right to marry.


usaf-vet my comment to the original post.
Starts here:

Here is a rough transcript:
Q: Senator Harris

Comment on your personal opinion on whether Obergefell (sp) was correctly decided it's a yes or no, please.

A: Kavanaugh

A masterpiece cake shop, and this is, I think, relevance your question. Justice Kennedy wrote in the majority opinion joined by Chief Justice Roberts and Justice Alito and Justice Gorsuch and Justice Breyer and Justice Kagan, the days of discriminating against gay and lesbian Americans or treating gay and lesbian Americans as inferior in dignity and worth are over.

Q: Harris

Paraphrase[ing] you agree with that statement, that is the precedent the Supreme Court agreed with by asking your opinion, you are the nominate right now and so it is probative of your ability to serve on the highest court in our land. So I'm asking you a very specific question whether you're willing to answer or not and if you're not willing to answer it we can move on but do you believe Obergefell was correctly decided.

A: Kavanaugh

Each of the justices have declined. As a matter of judicial independence each of them to answer questions about line of cases, they willl not answer that question.

Q: Harris

You [are] following the precedent set by those eight just as they've all declined?

Thank you. end.

So this testimony UNDER OATH would say to me if he follows both the precedence[s] he cites
He won't answer and he won't vote to change the precedence of the decision.

[Eliot Rosewater]

69. He lied, of course.

[usaf-vet]

70. IMHO The bottom line is he perjured himself during his testimony.

He said it was settled law.

Stare decisis is the policy of the court to stand by precedent; the term is but an abbreviation of stare decisis et non quieta movere—"to stand by and adhere to decisions and not disturb what is settled". Consider the word "decisis". The word means, literally and legally, the decision.

[uponit7771]

3. Roberts will come in with another right-leaning stupid ruling

... to even things out because Roberts wants to be popular than do his job

[Bettie]

30. Probably on the one that is closest to evangelicals' black

shriveled hearts.

They will uphold the 'admitting privileges' case, ensuring that many women can't get an abortion.

[BComplex]

54. What is the "admitting privileges" case about? I haven't heard about it!

Is it going before the court?

[Bettie]

59. June Medical Services v Russo

https://www.vox.com/2020/3/5/21164953/abortion-supreme-court-louisiana-case-admitting-privileges

June Medical Services v. Russo concerns a Louisiana law requiring abortion providers to have admitting privileges at a local clinic. Louisiana legislators and abortion opponents say the measure is meant to protect patients. But abortion-rights advocates argue that such laws have no medical purpose and are simply aimed at creating more red tape to ultimately shut clinics down. And if the Supreme Court upholds the Louisiana law, clinics not just in Louisiana but around the country could close as a result.

Basically a way to make abortion, if not illegal, impossible to get in some states.

[BComplex]

63. Yes, I remember. I didn't know folks were calling it admitting privileges, but

the whole thing sucks, and I can't see how the court can uphold this. How can any "clinic" survive (whether it's for abortions or outpatient surgeries) if they have to have admitting privileges to a hospital on demand. This could put every kind of clinic in a difficult position.

[Bettie]

65. That's my mental shorthand

to remember what it is about.

[BComplex]

67. ....

Got it.

[uponit7771]

58. +1, Roberts wants to be popular and well liked while doing a good job but he can't do that ...

... with right wing ideals seeing a good portion of them in practice aren't American.

I'm sure when it comes to voter suppression or even choosing Trump over America Roberts will choose Trump and then say "look, I gave the left a bunch of decisions earlier"

Jus ...

[bucolic_frolic]

57. He seems to enjoy coming out of left field with obscure points of law

Justifies brilliance and Chief Justice title, I suppose.

[SoCalNative]

4. Conservative tears

are especially delicious today!

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

5. Like ambrosia!

[Wellstone ruled]

12. Oh yes!

[paleotn]

29. Always.

[Bucky]

6. I've been watching these right-wing mooks for 40 years

When their grand schemes to undermine American democracy and liberty stall on legal technicalities, they just double down on finding stupider and more pliable haters to put on the bench.

[BComplex]

55. And Lindsay Graham has a hand in working with the Federalist Society to do just that.

What a douche bag.

[Thomas Hurt]

7. Everyone is sick of Trump's christofascist bee ess, even the sane conservatives, such as they are.

That prick Barr still hasn't exposed a line he is unwilling to cross yet though.

[Laffy Kat]

8. YAY. I hope he totally loses what's left of his shit.

Have the tweets about the SCOTUS started yet?

[Soph0571]

11. Just checked. not yet

Will check at 4 am

[lagomorph777]

64. He'll threaten to fire Gorsuck.

[no_hypocrisy]

9. And they're crying "For this, Mitch McConnell made us wait 18 months!" FINO!

[catbyte]

10. I usually don't care for too much salt, but these conservative tears are delicious.

[Renew Deal]

13. Social conservatives haven't been abandoned. They are wrong

Wrong on the issues. Wrong on the constitution.

[YessirAtsaFact]

15. Understood. But that's not supposed to matter

They got the court they wanted, it’s supposed to reinforce gay hating, etc, not uphold those pesky laws

[ibegurpard]

14. Imagine being utterly devastated

Because someone else has just been guaranteed legal protection for their employment when you yourself have the same guarantee because of a CHOICE you made (yup religion is a choice folks).
These people are fucking garbage.

[Lucinda]

20. +1

[bluescribbler]

16. Uppercut???

That's a damn haymaker.

[brewens]

21. Thanks for the votes SUCKERS! That's been the play for decades. Gorsuch might play ball as far as

anything that directly benefits the wealthy, but the really powerful people only care about the evangelicals and lower class whites so far as they can use them.

I remember Gary Bauer, he was a prominent evangelical back in the late 80's and 90's. He was on with Bob Novak after republicans took the House from Clinton. He was pushing the usual agenda and Novak was like, "easy there Gary, let us get a republican president and tax cuts, then maybe we'll get around to school prayer and abortion."

[PCIntern]

56. Jesus...what'd you have to go and do that for?

Mentioned that piece of shit Bauer AND that giant dead piece of shit Novak in the same sentence.

No breakfast for me!

[brewens]

60. I know, but Bob could be a kick in the ass sometimes. I liked his "Prince of Darkness" thing on

Crossfire. He played that up. All things considered, I hought he was one of the smartest conservatives. Sure as hell beats freakin' Hannity.

[Under The Radar]

23. The real test will be against religious liberty like a hobby lobby case for employment rights

[bucolic_frolic]

26. Forcing people to deny who they are, in a free society, to please a religious institution

or a corporation, is anathema to the Bill of Rights and to religious freedom.

Some would say we do it every time we go to work. No that's voluntary, that's what you're paid to do. I mean who you are, how you see yourself, your identity.

[Under The Radar]

31. The republicans/evangelicals see religious freedom differently

Where religious freedom was meant As the freedom to worship Whichever God you choose, the religious right wants the freedom to impose their religious views and their religions laws upon their employees and customers, which yes is in fact a violation of the employees civil liberties.

[Cosmocat]

36. Y E P

nm

[DENVERPOPS]

73. Why would anyone in the world

even WANT to work for Hobby Lobby, Chick fil A or any other of the major right wing companies??????

Oh yea, there are 50 Million Trump Humpers for their employee pool, I forgot......

[Under The Radar]

74. Chick-fil-A is the highest paying fast food restaurant

People can tolerate a lot of crap for more money and usually have to.

[DENVERPOPS]

76. Sadly, you are 100% correct..........NC

[warmfeet]

24. Anyone that ever supported this asshole

will get what they deserve. The reckoning has just begun. FTA.

[gratuitous]

25. Oh noes, not the activisms!

Congress wrote a law. The Supreme Court interpreted that law based on the language of the law.

Or is it the position of the Federalist Society that for every law they pass, Congress has to pass an additional "Yes, we really mean it" law? I know that worked in the Shelby County case, where the majority penned the startling declaration that the authorization and reauthorization of Title V of the Voting Rights Act by Congress was highly suspicious and ultimately invalid. The clincher for the majority opinion was the unanimous or near-unanimous vote time and again to maintain Title V, which in their fevered minds meant that Congress was being bullied by the voters Title V was meant to protect, and that it shouldn't really be the law at all.

Considering how disastrous Shelby County worked out in practice, with challenges to Republican rat-fucking with the ballot going to the Supreme Court instead of being invalidated before an election by the Department of Justice, maybe the Supremes have decided they don't want to be deciding all kinds of these problems anymore. Certainly Chief Justice Roberts, who declared the original day of jubilee that racism in these here United States is dead and gone forever, grew tired very quickly of having the perform the duties of the Civil Rights Division every time Republicans thought up a new way to disenfranchise eligible voters that they didn't want voting.

[Aviation Pro]

27. Wait until Gorsuch and Roberts side with denying Shitbag

The right to keep his tax returns hidden.

Heads will explode.

[wnylib]

46. That will never happen. There is a limit to how

much integrity and reasonableness that conservative justices are capable of.

[Hortensis]

28. Why would the kleptocrats the Republican leadership serves

be upset about this?

They're riding the tiger of the RW passions they've used to fuel their rise, but for the most part those aren't their big passions. Although there's plenty of overlap between the giant powers behind the Republican Party, the kleptocrats' interests are very different from those of the Christian dominionists, whose interests overlap but are not the same as those of hard-core social/white power conservatives.

Once they got rid of us, they'd be battling each other for power. A theocracy that took power could destroy the billionaire class a lot more quickly and ruthlessly than Democrats in a democracy could. Who knows? Might not even leave them their heads.

[ibegurpard]

34. Exactly

As happy as I am about this decision i'd trade it in a heartbeat for a Citizens United ruling that went the other way.
That way we could still be fighting for equality on all fronts on an equal playing field instead of relying on the whims or noblesse oblige of the rich and powerful.

[Hortensis]

40. Yes. The majority belief in the rightness of equality and

civil rights has evolved and strengthened over the past 150 years, creating a history of accelerating advances. To continue that, we need our courts to continue the philosophy of a living constitution that reflects the evolving beliefs of the nation at large. And we're perilously close to losing that.

[Hassler]

32. Hmm... voting in favor of gay rights and clean water act.

Something tells me they are planning to gut Roe and abortion rights and looking for cover.

[Martin Eden]

33. They'd rather have a Democrat appoint the next SCJ?

I don't think so.

[Tom Rinaldo]

61. It saps their fervor to feel betrayed. Think of some Bernie or Busters last time

Many of them got it together to vote for Hillary anyway, but they didn't campaign for her, they didn't talk her up to their friends, the didn't donate to her. Their heart wasn't in it and that does make a difference.

[Martin Eden]

62. Makes sense

If it results in lower turnout for Trump, so much the better.

Those who are incensed at equal rights can go fuck themselves.

[paleotn]

35. Still sinking in how monumentally HUUUUUGE this is.

[Dopers_Greed]

37. Those conservative tears are so sweet

[AwakeAtLast]

39. I'm practically giddy!

Anyone else?






Butthurt Trumpies:

[AlexSFCA]

41. they only have abortion left

if that is resolved, conservatives will have to invent some new “evil” to fight against and fundraise on. What are they gonna do, claim gorsuch is a liberal? lol
Conservatives think in absolute terms, everything to them is either liberal or conservative including facts.

[TeamPooka]

42. Republican tears can heal my pain.

[stlstdg]

45. Awww...boo hoo hoo

[Maru Kitteh]

47. In a sea of tragedy, this news is even brighter, kinder, sweeter

than it might have been.

[louis-t]

48. If Mark Levin was any good at lawyering

he would never have given it up to be a talk show host.

[D_Master81]

49. Oh so now...

After all that’s happened for the past 4 years, NOW is when Levin is concerned about separation of powers? Got it

[nakocal]

50. Gorsuch is still a POS

Someday we will find out that he has a close relative or a child who is GBLTQ. Or he was being blackmailed. Don't trust him even though he made the correct decision.

[edhopper]

52. not understanding why

Robert's and Gorsuch are there. The social conservatism is just to keep the RW voters happy.
Their purpose is to ensure the rule of Corporations and the Oligarchy.

It's what the Federalist are really about too.

A few Civil Rights cases won't change that.

[Progressive Jones]

53. The bottom line is this: The vast majority of Americans

couldn't give a rats' ass what the fringe "social conservatives" want.

[Wounded Bear]

66. I really hope they all stay home...

[Bonx]

71. Trump is done.

[IronLionZion]

72. Thoughts and prayers

I hope this is true!