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Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 08:18 AM Jun 2020

Dexamethasone is first life-saving coronavirus drug (BBC)

By Michelle Roberts
Health editor, BBC News online
16 June 2020 Health

A cheap and widely available drug called dexamethasone can help save the lives of patients who are seriously ill with coronavirus.

UK experts say the low-dose steroid treatment is a major breakthrough in the fight against the deadly virus.

It cut the risk of death by a third for patients on ventilators. For those on oxygen, it cut deaths by a fifth.

The drug is part of the world's biggest trial testing existing treatments to see if they also work for coronavirus.

Researchers estimate that if the drug had been available in the UK from the start of the coronavirus pandemic up to 5,000 lives could have been saved. Because it is cheap, it could also be of huge benefit in poor countries struggling with high numbers of Covid-19 patients.

Life-saver

About 19 out of 20 patients who get coronavirus get better without coming to hospital. Of those who are admitted to hospital, most also get better, but some may need oxygen or mechanical ventilation. These are the high risk patients that dexamethasone appears to help.


Read more: https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/health-53061281

This is interesting because three months back steroids were considered contraindicated for COVID-19.

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Dexamethasone is first life-saving coronavirus drug (BBC) (Original Post) Mike 03 Jun 2020 OP
I think Laurelin Jun 2020 #1
That's what I'm thinking, too. Hugin Jun 2020 #3
There are many different steroids... Hugin Jun 2020 #2
nope. that is just the trial protocol. mopinko Jun 2020 #6
Dexamethasone Sgent Jun 2020 #7
ah. thank you. mopinko Jun 2020 #8
I was given a similar steroid once following respiratory surgery... Hugin Jun 2020 #11
Decreases death rate by about 10%, if true. "Life-saving" is a bit misleading. n/t blitzen Jun 2020 #4
seriously, try and project some positivity, a decrease of deaths by 10% is lifesaving sunonmars Jun 2020 #5
unless you are one of the 10%. but you are factually incorrect. mopinko Jun 2020 #9
From further on in the article nitpicker Jun 2020 #10
+1 n/t Hugin Jun 2020 #12

Laurelin

(519 posts)
1. I think
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 08:27 AM
Jun 2020

Steroids were contraindicated, not because of research or trials with covid, but because they can depress your immune system. If deaths are caused by cytokine storm then this makes sense, though of course it could be some completely different mechanism.

Anyway I know nothing at all. It's good news though.

Hugin

(33,120 posts)
3. That's what I'm thinking, too.
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 08:40 AM
Jun 2020

I don't know what the distinction of damage done by the virus itself vs the virus/immune response are like. It may be why it's use has been limited to those most severely infected and on breathing assistance.

There's also the consideration of a secondary infection emerging if the immune system is depressed.

Hugin

(33,120 posts)
2. There are many different steroids...
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 08:34 AM
Jun 2020

I'm glad they are working on treatments for this virus. It seems to be a reasonable approach to saving lives and giving hope. Probably, the best that can be achieved in the short term due to the issues surrounding a vaccine making it's development problematic.

Granted, for this steroid to be effective...

One has to CONTRACT the disease and be on a ventilator/oxygen. Also, it's use requires CLOSE SUPERVISION from a PHYSICIAN or HEALTH CARE PROVIDER who has been TRAINED in the steroid's use. (Disclaimer added for those foolish enough to try and use this steroid as a prophylactic measure. Steroids can be extremely dangerous.) Alas, the things we must do living in the idiotic Turd Reich.

mopinko

(70,076 posts)
6. nope. that is just the trial protocol.
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 08:59 AM
Jun 2020

once it is approved, it will be given to most patients sick enough to see a doc. might even be given to have on hand for patients w existing lung issues.
or given as treatment for asthma/copd in the first place. what is out there now is shitty.

i'm an old lady w copd, and other high risk factors.
you heard it here first.

Sgent

(5,857 posts)
7. Dexamethasone
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 09:03 AM
Jun 2020

is an injectable / IV drug. For oral usage you would use prednisone or a rescue inhaler.

mopinko

(70,076 posts)
8. ah. thank you.
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 09:10 AM
Jun 2020

wonder why it isnt inhaled, tho. bet that changes, too. would act faster.

and i use fluticasone. $250 for a one month inhaler. w bcbs medigap.
$20 as a generic walgreens nasal spray.
i cant even get a 90 day supply. even tho the fda recommended everyone be able to get 90 days of everything.

i suppose the price of this one will go through the roof now.

Hugin

(33,120 posts)
11. I was given a similar steroid once following respiratory surgery...
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 09:17 AM
Jun 2020

It may have even been Dexamethasone. I don't remember.

However, it resulted in my getting a horrible case of 'thrush' in my upper throat and mouth. ('thrush' is a fungal infection.) For the other infection, i was given a second steroid. Back and forth I went for about six months before everything sorted itself out.

sunonmars

(8,656 posts)
5. seriously, try and project some positivity, a decrease of deaths by 10% is lifesaving
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 08:48 AM
Jun 2020

What the hell do you want, them to pull out some magic bullet, it does not work like that.

mopinko

(70,076 posts)
9. unless you are one of the 10%. but you are factually incorrect.
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 09:11 AM
Jun 2020

it doesnt say miraculous. it says life saving. and it is.

light up, egg.

nitpicker

(7,153 posts)
10. From further on in the article
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 09:14 AM
Jun 2020

(snip)

Prof Landray said, when appropriate, hospital patients should now be given it without delay, but people should not go out and buy it to take at home.

Dexamethasone does not appear to help people with milder symptoms of coronavirus - those who don't need help with their breathing.
(snip)

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