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douglas9

(4,358 posts)
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 12:26 PM Jun 2020

Woman, 15 friends test positive for coronavirus after night out at Lynch's

JACKSONVILLE BEACH, Fla. – Erika Crisp has been short of breath for several days and has tested positive for COVID-19.

So have more than a dozen of her friends.

The one thing they all had in common: a night out at Lynch's Irish Pub on June 6 in Jacksonville Beach.

Crisp, a 40-year-old health care worker from Jacksonville, said she’s been sick for eight days, and 15 of her friends have also tested positive for COVID-19.

Lynch’s learned some of its customers had tested positive for coronavirus after visiting the pub and the general manager opted to shut down voluntarily over the weekend for a deep cleaning.

Crisp said she and her friends had been careful with social distancing and had stayed indoors for months “doing everything the right way.”

https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/2020/06/15/woman-15-friends-test-positive-for-coronavirus-after-night-out-at-lynchs/

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Woman, 15 friends test positive for coronavirus after night out at Lynch's (Original Post) douglas9 Jun 2020 OP
Meaning The Disease Is THAT Contagious ProfessorGAC Jun 2020 #1
Doing everything right was BEFORE the night out on the town. Ms. Toad Jun 2020 #12
Do You Believe Her? ProfessorGAC Jun 2020 #24
I hadn't thought about the "before" time. Ms. Toad Jun 2020 #26
She did everything right until she didn't. Tree-Hugger Jun 2020 #13
"...And we were not wearing masks." Liberal In Texas Jun 2020 #19
Well, not everything Renew Deal Jun 2020 #2
Doing everythign right was up until the time DeSantis opened the state. Ms. Toad Jun 2020 #14
IOW, She Took Advice From The Governor ProfessorGAC Jun 2020 #20
Yup. Pretty dumb for someone with medical training. n/t Ms. Toad Jun 2020 #23
Inoculate... Newest Reality Jun 2020 #3
Ignorance in this country is as epidemic as COVID-19 hlthe2b Jun 2020 #4
That's the truth. It seems like the IQ of the average American has fallen by at least 30 points BComplex Jun 2020 #21
15 sick friends... GopherGal Jun 2020 #29
FFS EarlG Jun 2020 #5
Yep. Public socializing is still riskier than folks want to admit. FM123 Jun 2020 #6
"it means they currently have room for you in the ICU." lagomorph777 Jun 2020 #9
Currently have room lapfog_1 Jun 2020 #16
It seems like bars and restaurants dawg day Jun 2020 #7
Bars, at least, are ranked as the riskiest (at a 9). Ms. Toad Jun 2020 #18
Some people learn the hard way Blues Heron Jun 2020 #8
"40-year-old health care worker" jayfish Jun 2020 #10
Sorry about her co-workers....sure hope she didn't manage to infect her patients too!!! Stoopid!!! dutch777 Jun 2020 #27
They're starting to close other restaurants here (Jax) too NightWatcher Jun 2020 #11
"Oh, gosh! How did that happen? It's just one of life's unfathomable little mysteries!" struggle4progress Jun 2020 #15
And all that staying at home and social distancing for 3 months The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2020 #17
It's not over until it's actually over. MineralMan Jun 2020 #22
Local knowledge here. They went out to celebrate a birthday. 15 of them. Without mask. Lochloosa Jun 2020 #25
Interesting. Laelth Jun 2020 #28
Well, that was responsible behavior on their part. Crunchy Frog Jun 2020 #30
A few shots of liquor and a load of advice from RW politicians make some think they're invincible. KY_EnviroGuy Jun 2020 #31

ProfessorGAC

(64,995 posts)
1. Meaning The Disease Is THAT Contagious
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 12:28 PM
Jun 2020

Did everything right, & still got it.
If we believe she did everything right. Was she wearing a mask at Lynch's? If not, she wasn't doing everything right.

Ms. Toad

(34,062 posts)
12. Doing everything right was BEFORE the night out on the town.
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 12:44 PM
Jun 2020

They admitted they were paying no attention to safety at Lynch. She (a nurse) is now telling people she had not taken her medical advice from the governor. Duh.

ProfessorGAC

(64,995 posts)
24. Do You Believe Her?
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 12:54 PM
Jun 2020

I'm highly skeptical.
If she did "everything right" she suddenly took advice from a non-expert and threw caution to the wind?
I don't trust her definition of "everything right".
I'm pretty careful, but I wouldn't make that claim.

Ms. Toad

(34,062 posts)
26. I hadn't thought about the "before" time.
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 01:01 PM
Jun 2020

I've seen some pretty dramatic 180s in people with reason to be extremely cautious. A "friend" of mine (he has the same two autoimmune diseases as my daughter, and is much closer to a liver transplant than my daughter) is a raging conservative. He started out skeptical (it's all a hoax), then was freaking out at everyone - telling them to stay home, follow the governor's orders, his life was at stake - and then flipped back just as quickly and is now insisting it is all a hoax.

Some people - even those in health care fields or those who ought to be most concerned about consequences - can have reason smacked into them for a short period of time, then revert on a dime.

It's pretty clear, in this case, that she was infected at Lynch's Bar. 15 of her friends had no common connection aside from Lynch's and 8 of the 42 employees (going by memory here) have tested positive.

Tree-Hugger

(3,370 posts)
13. She did everything right until she didn't.
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 12:44 PM
Jun 2020

Doing everything right previously doesn't matter when you go to a crowded, high contact indoor facility with 15 of your closest friends.

Liberal In Texas

(13,546 posts)
19. "...And we were not wearing masks."
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 12:49 PM
Jun 2020

from the link:
“I think we were careless and we went out into a public place when we should not have. And we were not wearing masks. I think we had a whole 'Out of sight, out of mind' mentality. The state opens back up and said everybody was fine, so we took advantage of that,” Crisp said.

She said it's a lesson for everyone.

“We should be wearing masks. We should be social distancing,” Crisp said. “It was too soon to open everything back up.”

Lynch’s general manager said the pub will reopen at 11 a.m. Tuesday.

Ms. Toad

(34,062 posts)
14. Doing everythign right was up until the time DeSantis opened the state.
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 12:45 PM
Jun 2020

She and her buddies relied on DeSantis for medical advice and decided if he said it was safe, it must be safe. As a nurse, that is particularly stupid.

ProfessorGAC

(64,995 posts)
20. IOW, She Took Advice From The Governor
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 12:52 PM
Jun 2020

Who appears to know very little about anything.
Meaning, as I said, the disease is THAT contagious.
Take bad advice once, boom, boom, out go the lights.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
3. Inoculate...
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 12:29 PM
Jun 2020

Inoculate yourself against unsubstantiated propaganda spread for political and economic reasons only.

When you catch that stuff, you are more prone to getting the rest.

hlthe2b

(102,225 posts)
4. Ignorance in this country is as epidemic as COVID-19
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 12:29 PM
Jun 2020

Sadly, very little can overcome wanton ignorance.

BComplex

(8,036 posts)
21. That's the truth. It seems like the IQ of the average American has fallen by at least 30 points
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 12:52 PM
Jun 2020

over the past 30 years.

GopherGal

(2,008 posts)
29. 15 sick friends...
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 01:32 PM
Jun 2020

15 have now tested positive, though they didn't actually say how many people were in their group. How could they have ever thought that was a good idea? Thought it had gone away, like a miracle, I suppose.

Oh, and the reporter telling us that the cases in that zip code going from 41 to 65 in two weeks represented 14 new cases.

The stupid, it burns!

EarlG

(21,945 posts)
5. FFS
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 12:29 PM
Jun 2020
"Crisp said she and her friends had been careful with social distancing and had stayed indoors for months 'doing everything the right way.'"

...and then decided to throw away all that good work on one night out at a bar.

City Enters Phase 4 Of Pretending Coronavirus Over

FM123

(10,053 posts)
6. Yep. Public socializing is still riskier than folks want to admit.
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 12:31 PM
Jun 2020

A friend of mine keeps saying: The end of the stay-at -home orders doesn't mean the pandemic is over. it means they currently have room for you in the ICU.

lapfog_1

(29,199 posts)
16. Currently have room
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 12:48 PM
Jun 2020

not to mention that the long term effects of even "mild" cases of Covid-19 are just now being discovered....

memory loss, decreased executive function, permanent lung damage, damage to the liver and kidneys... and the heart.

You don't have to be in the ICU and on a ventilator to see some or all of these life-shortening affects of Covid-19

Nor do you have to be over 60.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
7. It seems like bars and restaurants
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 12:31 PM
Jun 2020

Are the worst... indoors, sharing air, lots of movement, talking at each other for an hour. Imagine the danger for the staff, there for 8 hours.

Blues Heron

(5,931 posts)
8. Some people learn the hard way
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 12:32 PM
Jun 2020

Was the booze worth it? Will they all live? Hopefully. The virus doesn't really care how long you have or haven't stayed inside you fools. This a health care worker?

jayfish

(10,039 posts)
10. "40-year-old health care worker"
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 12:36 PM
Jun 2020

Good job! Hell of an example she set there. I wonder how many of her unsuspecting colleagues she's infected.

dutch777

(3,013 posts)
27. Sorry about her co-workers....sure hope she didn't manage to infect her patients too!!! Stoopid!!!
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 01:27 PM
Jun 2020

But what do we expect from Florida?

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
11. They're starting to close other restaurants here (Jax) too
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 12:37 PM
Jun 2020

Someone who works at Angie's subs near the beach fell il as well and it's a tiny place with a lot of people tripping over each other. It's always packed.

I know a bbq'er who works at a popular restaurant and his boss says that several are about to return to pickup only. The second crest of the first wave will hit hard soon here.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,674 posts)
17. And all that staying at home and social distancing for 3 months
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 12:48 PM
Jun 2020

was for nothing on account of one evening with friends at a bar. This shit is real, folks, and you can make up your own minds, but I'm going to keep doing exactly what I've been doing since early March - staying home, ordering what I need for delivery, wearing a mask on the rare occasions when I'm out of the house, washing my hands like the bastard child of Howard Hughes and Lady Macbeth, and staying the hell out of bars, restaurants and Trump rallies. Especially Trump rallies.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
22. It's not over until it's actually over.
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 12:53 PM
Jun 2020

Keep doing the same things you were doing to stay safe, folks. COVID-19 didn't go anywhere. It's out there waiting for you.

Lochloosa

(16,063 posts)
25. Local knowledge here. They went out to celebrate a birthday. 15 of them. Without mask.
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 12:56 PM
Jun 2020

10 of the 15 now are sick. The owner closed his bar, had it cleaned and tested all of his employees.

The owner of Lynch's did everything right. The one thing that he could have done was just not have let them in the door.

And they are trying to blame Lynch's for getting sick. IMO, they got what they deserved.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
28. Interesting.
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 01:32 PM
Jun 2020

Obviously, SARS-CoV-2 is highly infectious, even if it’s not (yet) highly lethal.

-Laelth

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,490 posts)
31. A few shots of liquor and a load of advice from RW politicians make some think they're invincible.
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 02:15 PM
Jun 2020

And the RW politicians will never be held directly accountable, even if some die.

That's why DeSantis and tRump say these things about opening up. They know their ass won't be nailed to the cross for killing people and Republican voters are too stupid to even make that connection.

Meanwhile, owners of bars, hotels, restaurants and beach concessions are laughing all the way to the bank.

KY............

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