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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsStephanie Ruhle calls our her MSNBC producer for saying Trump "stated inaccurately some facts"
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Stephanie Ruhle
@SRuhle
While I rarely make the mistake of challenging my brilliant executive producer @laurenpeikoff ....Im making an exception.@realDonaldTrump did NOT state some innacurate facts.
There is no such thing as an inaccurate fact.
Facts are true statements, backed by evidence
He lied.
Lauren Peikoff
@laurenpeikoff
.@MSNBC just broke away from the president's newser. @mitchellreports: President Trump started talking about police reform and an executive order but he's now launched into what would be a campaign rally speech, stating inaccurately some facts about the pandemic.
leftieNanner
(15,178 posts)Thank you, Ms. Ruhle.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Simple, declarative sentence so beloved of editors everywhere: "He lies!" Far more concise, no weasel words like "inaccurate facts" and gets the message clearly to the audience.
Wounded Bear
(58,736 posts)judeling
(1,086 posts)Even when she was on Bloomberg.
demmiblue
(36,902 posts)I still love this:
I know, naysayers. I know.
cayugafalls
(5,646 posts)So excited she could not contain herself.
mopinko
(70,268 posts)and she laughs right at the liars when she sets them straight.
ace3csusm
(969 posts)Blecht
(3,803 posts)It is not that hard.
Singular:
L I E
Plural:
L I E S
demmiblue
(36,902 posts)leftieNanner
(15,178 posts)And it breaks my heart that his Daddy has to explain to him about the ways of the world. Things that white Daddies never have to say.
agingdem
(7,864 posts)Another crap euphemism..alternate truths/misstatements/not truthful.. trump is a compulsive liar and that is a clear unambiguous fact!
GopherGal
(2,010 posts)... that they euphemized themselves into a knot.
That's what happens when you're afraid to call a spade a spade.
leftieNanner
(15,178 posts)The word from the executive office must still be to support the R side of the aisle.
tblue37
(65,490 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)luvtheGWN
(1,336 posts)Lies are lies.
Pretty simple, really.
BSdetect
(8,999 posts)LuckyLib
(6,821 posts)Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)Trump took advantage of that from Day One and forced the media to either change its stance or maintain it as it was continually being flouted. Took them 3.5 years, but they finally are starting to understand that Trump and the GOP consider this deference a weakness to exploit. Hopefully, they won't be similarly hamstrung by deference to the incumbent as a candidate.
MyOwnPeace
(16,940 posts)You got it - they found a "weak spot" and have continually driven through it.
ENOUGH of this "polite dance of words" - call it what it is!
ENOUGH of this "both sides do it" - tell it like it is!
BE PROFESSIONALS - DO YOUR JOB! TELL THE TRUTH, EVEN IF THEY DON'T!!!!!!
ProfessorGAC
(65,237 posts)Well said!
Paladin
(28,277 posts)Just because trump is an endless source of lies, there's no cause to label his lies as "facts" of any kind.
MyOwnPeace
(16,940 posts)I can't imagine the s**tstorm that would roll down if this becomes an issue for her!
Great move on her part - hopefully shifting attitudes at MSNBC to follow the lead of their people that are the face of their programming.
malaise
(269,212 posts)These fuckers want to redefine the meaning of a fact - there are no alternative facts. It is either a fact or it is not a fact.
elleng
(131,191 posts)vlyons
(10,252 posts)Ruhle is right. A "fact" is backed by observable evidence. Trump lied.
StarryNite
(9,461 posts)Tommy_Carcetti
(43,216 posts)From Cloud Atlas.
Cha
(297,794 posts)CloudWatcher
(1,851 posts)Dear Media and especially MSNBC,
I don't care what Trump says. Ever.
You need to cover what he does, not what he says. You've done enough damage treating him as a celebrity, then a viable candidate, and then like an actual President. Stop it. Just stop.
I understand that some people need to report on what he says. They have my sincere sympathy. But I have no desire to try and keep up with his lies, hate mongering, delusions and tweets.
Take away his bully pulput and treat him with all the respect he has earned.
In the meantime, I'll go back to doing anything other than paying attention to you. Life is short and you are a waste of time.
The Wizard
(12,552 posts)who speaks plain English.
Tommymac
(7,263 posts)This is an outlier.
Until we stop watching them and giving them $$$$$$ from ad revenue they will not change.
Boycott the advertisers and perhaps they will start to feel it.
Support REAL news outlets such as The Daily Beast, TruthOut, The Nation, Democratic UnderGround, and The Real News Network instead.
packman
(16,296 posts)Double talk, 1984