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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums'We're thinking landslide': Beyond D.C., GOP officials see Trump on glide path to reelection
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/15/trump-glide-reelection-republican-officials-316457?utm_source=pocket&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=pockethitssnip
Interviews with more than 50 state, district and county Republican Party chairs depict a version of the electoral landscape that is no worse for Trump than six months ago and possibly even slightly better. According to this view, the coronavirus is on its way out and the economy is coming back. Polls are unreliable, Joe Biden is too frail to last, and the media still doesnt get it.
The more bad things happen in the country, it just solidifies support for Trump, said Phillip Stephens, GOP chairman in Robeson County, N.C., one of several rural counties in that swing state that shifted from supporting Barack Obama in 2012 to Trump in 2016. Were calling him Teflon Trump. Nothings going to stick, because if anything, its getting more exciting than it was in 2016.
This year, Stephens said, Were thinking landslide.
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At the center of the disconnect between Trump loyalists assessment of the state of the race and the one based on public opinion polls is a distrust of polling itself. Republicans see an industry that maliciously oversamples Democrats or under-samples the white, non-college educated voters who are most likely to support Trump. They say it is hard to know who likely voters are this far from the election. And like many Democrats, they suspect Trump supporters disproportionately hang up on pollsters, under-counting his level of support.
Ted Lovdahl, chairman of the Republican Party in Minnesotas 8th Congressional District, said he has friends who will tell pollsters just exactly the opposite of what they feel.
When he asked one of them why, his friend told him, I dont like some of their questions. Its none of their business what I do.
I think they all have a disconnect, or maybe I'm in such a bubble that what I see and hear aren't there in the real world.
Delphinus
(12,553 posts)so disheartening ...
WhiteTara
(31,279 posts)Didn't we just read that trump's cadre are telling him it will be alright? Aren't the millions of people still in the street? Is the pandemic worsening? Will the economy recover by fall? Won't they kill themselves off with their lack of care for the virus? Or, maybe I'm just a pollyanna and will be more shocked then I was when the presidency was stolen from Hillary Clinton?
obamanut2012
(29,508 posts)This isn't true.
coti
(4,625 posts)RandySF
(86,116 posts)Hillary beat him by a small margin, as projected.
triron
(22,240 posts)DFW
(60,423 posts)Putin would need an FSB agent parked outside every single polling place that uses electronic voting machines. My brother does hi tech stuff for DARPA and he told me in 2002 (!!), "give me a cell phone and a laptop, and I'll make any of those machines give you whatever result you want, connected to the internet or not." I have no idea how that stuff works, but then I have no idea how ANY of the stuff he does works. He has been at his job for over 30 years, so he probably is doing something right.
Now, if he thinks he can do that (or knows, but can't tell me), then obviously the FSB can, too. That doesn't mean Putin will do it. He must be getting fed up with his pet three year old in the White House at this point, and might even prefer to go back to having a sane person to talk to in the Oval Office, even if it's someone who will tell him to blow it out his ass every now and then.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)No need to send people all over the place. Just have the Republicans who make the machines embed back doors.
Wounded Bear
(64,616 posts)That has an ominous sound. No mind, I intend to vote.
GreenPartyVoter
(73,399 posts)lastlib
(28,594 posts)I would even be willing to vote the cemeteries at this point. (Dead folks have as much right to be counted as the rest of us!)
leftieNanner
(16,167 posts)1. This is why we can't get complacent. We need to work our butts off!
2. If they are thinking this way, then this means that they will cry "FOUL" when we win (up and down ballot) in November.
Midnight Writer
(25,722 posts)Now that is one perverted governing philosophy.
These are the guys in charge, who believe that the worse things are, the better it is for them.
No wonder the Administration keeps making bone headed mistakes. Bartcop's Law.
stillcool
(34,407 posts)and you can create a reality.
Bleacher Creature
(11,504 posts)I'm 100% sure that the Chairman of the Robeson County GOP doesn't have access to some super-secret data that completely contradicts the public polling showing Biden in strong positions throughout the battleground states.
PSPS
(15,372 posts)They made sure such things were in the German press too at the end of WW II lest they "upset der fuhrer."
JCMach1
(29,241 posts)ProfessorGAC
(77,244 posts)That stuff would have made Marley jealous.
Generic Brad
(14,374 posts)All the polls are wrong? All the data is inaccurate?
Im sensing landslide too, and it will not be in their favor.
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vercetti2021
(10,481 posts)Or they have it rigged for the taking.
PCIntern
(28,577 posts)So fuck you and fuck your landslide.