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WhiteTara

(31,279 posts)
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 01:47 PM Jun 2020

'We're thinking landslide': Beyond D.C., GOP officials see Trump on glide path to reelection

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/15/trump-glide-reelection-republican-officials-316457?utm_source=pocket&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=pockethits

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Interviews with more than 50 state, district and county Republican Party chairs depict a version of the electoral landscape that is no worse for Trump than six months ago — and possibly even slightly better. According to this view, the coronavirus is on its way out and the economy is coming back. Polls are unreliable, Joe Biden is too frail to last, and the media still doesn’t get it.

“The more bad things happen in the country, it just solidifies support for Trump,” said Phillip Stephens, GOP chairman in Robeson County, N.C., one of several rural counties in that swing state that shifted from supporting Barack Obama in 2012 to Trump in 2016. “We’re calling him ‘Teflon Trump.’ Nothing’s going to stick, because if anything, it’s getting more exciting than it was in 2016.”

This year, Stephens said, “We’re thinking landslide.”

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At the center of the disconnect between Trump loyalists’ assessment of the state of the race and the one based on public opinion polls is a distrust of polling itself. Republicans see an industry that maliciously oversamples Democrats or under-samples the white, non-college educated voters who are most likely to support Trump. They say it is hard to know who likely voters are this far from the election. And like many Democrats, they suspect Trump supporters disproportionately hang up on pollsters, under-counting his level of support.

Ted Lovdahl, chairman of the Republican Party in Minnesota’s 8th Congressional District, said he has friends who will tell pollsters “just exactly the opposite of what they feel.”

When he asked one of them why, his friend told him, “I don’t like some of their questions. It’s none of their business what I do.”


I think they all have a disconnect, or maybe I'm in such a bubble that what I see and hear aren't there in the real world.
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'We're thinking landslide': Beyond D.C., GOP officials see Trump on glide path to reelection (Original Post) WhiteTara Jun 2020 OP
This is Delphinus Jun 2020 #1
But I don't believe it WhiteTara Jun 2020 #3
lol no, it isn't obamanut2012 Jun 2020 #6
"Deluded" is a better description, I think. nt coti Jun 2020 #18
I CAN say that national polls were righy in 2016. RandySF Jun 2020 #2
The Russians stole at least 4 states from HRC (Michigan, Wisconsin, Florida,Pennsylvania) triron Jun 2020 #8
For that to happen DFW Jun 2020 #4
Electronic vote stealing technology has come a long way in 18 years. lagomorph777 Jun 2020 #23
In other words, "The fix is in..." Wounded Bear Jun 2020 #5
Indeed. GreenPartyVoter Jun 2020 #11
Bring friends. lastlib Jun 2020 #19
Two Thoughts leftieNanner Jun 2020 #7
"The more bad things happen in the country, it just solidifies support for Trump". Midnight Writer Jun 2020 #9
create a perception... stillcool Jun 2020 #10
Don't read too much into this - these people live in a Fox News bubble. Bleacher Creature Jun 2020 #12
If they say anything else, trump will "lash out" with a tweet PSPS Jun 2020 #13
I will have two of what they are smoking JCMach1 Jun 2020 #14
I'll Take A Quarter Pound, JC ProfessorGAC Jun 2020 #21
The best they've got is anecdotes and hunches? Generic Brad Jun 2020 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author morillon Jun 2020 #16
Fucking Delusional vercetti2021 Jun 2020 #17
And we are thinking of taking a giant shit on you PCIntern Jun 2020 #20
Says the dude looking up at the muddy mountain. lagomorph777 Jun 2020 #22

WhiteTara

(31,279 posts)
3. But I don't believe it
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 01:53 PM
Jun 2020

Didn't we just read that trump's cadre are telling him it will be alright? Aren't the millions of people still in the street? Is the pandemic worsening? Will the economy recover by fall? Won't they kill themselves off with their lack of care for the virus? Or, maybe I'm just a pollyanna and will be more shocked then I was when the presidency was stolen from Hillary Clinton?

RandySF

(86,116 posts)
2. I CAN say that national polls were righy in 2016.
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 01:53 PM
Jun 2020

Hillary beat him by a small margin, as projected.

 

triron

(22,240 posts)
8. The Russians stole at least 4 states from HRC (Michigan, Wisconsin, Florida,Pennsylvania)
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 02:00 PM
Jun 2020

DFW

(60,423 posts)
4. For that to happen
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 01:57 PM
Jun 2020

Putin would need an FSB agent parked outside every single polling place that uses electronic voting machines. My brother does hi tech stuff for DARPA and he told me in 2002 (!!), "give me a cell phone and a laptop, and I'll make any of those machines give you whatever result you want, connected to the internet or not." I have no idea how that stuff works, but then I have no idea how ANY of the stuff he does works. He has been at his job for over 30 years, so he probably is doing something right.

Now, if he thinks he can do that (or knows, but can't tell me), then obviously the FSB can, too. That doesn't mean Putin will do it. He must be getting fed up with his pet three year old in the White House at this point, and might even prefer to go back to having a sane person to talk to in the Oval Office, even if it's someone who will tell him to blow it out his ass every now and then.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
23. Electronic vote stealing technology has come a long way in 18 years.
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 02:58 PM
Jun 2020

No need to send people all over the place. Just have the Republicans who make the machines embed back doors.

lastlib

(28,594 posts)
19. Bring friends.
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 02:44 PM
Jun 2020

I would even be willing to vote the cemeteries at this point. (Dead folks have as much right to be counted as the rest of us!)

leftieNanner

(16,167 posts)
7. Two Thoughts
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 01:59 PM
Jun 2020

1. This is why we can't get complacent. We need to work our butts off!

2. If they are thinking this way, then this means that they will cry "FOUL" when we win (up and down ballot) in November.



Midnight Writer

(25,722 posts)
9. "The more bad things happen in the country, it just solidifies support for Trump".
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 02:01 PM
Jun 2020

Now that is one perverted governing philosophy.

These are the guys in charge, who believe that the worse things are, the better it is for them.

No wonder the Administration keeps making bone headed mistakes. Bartcop's Law.

Bleacher Creature

(11,504 posts)
12. Don't read too much into this - these people live in a Fox News bubble.
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 02:18 PM
Jun 2020

I'm 100% sure that the Chairman of the Robeson County GOP doesn't have access to some super-secret data that completely contradicts the public polling showing Biden in strong positions throughout the battleground states.

PSPS

(15,372 posts)
13. If they say anything else, trump will "lash out" with a tweet
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 02:18 PM
Jun 2020

They made sure such things were in the German press too at the end of WW II lest they "upset der fuhrer."

Generic Brad

(14,374 posts)
15. The best they've got is anecdotes and hunches?
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 02:34 PM
Jun 2020

All the polls are wrong? All the data is inaccurate?

I’m sensing landslide too, and it will not be in their favor.

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