Fauci admits no mask order because there weren't enough!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/prevention-cures/502890-fauci-why-the-public-wasnt-told-to-wear-masks

He also acknowledged that masks were initially not recommended to the general public so that first responders wouldn’t feel the strain of a shortage of PPE.

He explained that public health experts "were concerned the public health community, and many people were saying this, were concerned that it was at a time when personal protective equipment, including the N95 masks and the surgical masks, were in very short supply.”

By early April, the Strategic National Stockpile had been depleted, and around the same time President Trump invoked the Defense Production Act to have manufacturing chains across the U.S. focus on making vital medical equipment such as ventilators and masks.

[still_one]

1. I knew that was bullshit when I first heard it. It is an outrage that they would push that

misinformation, and they lost a lot of credibility with that

They are better supplied, but still far from ideal in PPE, and I am skeptical that they are preparing for a possible second wave in the fall

[Arkansas Granny]

3. I know. It didn't make any sense at all that a mask would not be beneficial, especially when

they were emphasizing how the shortage of masks was putting medical staff at risk.

[still_one]

6. Being honest with the public is always the best course

[Ms. Toad]

7. And it make it much harder now to convince the mask-slackers that masks are effective.

NEVER argue a lie to achieve a goal. The public will never believe you when the lie no longer serves its purpose and you need them to reject the lie for public health reasons.

I am convinced that lie is the primary reason Ohio is not able to buck public sentiment and require masks - and the reason only approximately 40% of Ohioans are currently wearing masks.

[still_one]

9. It sure didn't help things, along with the mixed messages

[stopdiggin]

11. going to disagree (just a tiny bit)

My experience with the non-mask ethos is that it is largely an anti-science (virus hoax, no worse than the flu, exaggerated numbers and mortality), anti-government ('can't tell me!'), center of the universe ('I'm young, why should I have to ..') kind of thing. And .. even more disheartening .. it's actually devolved down to the level of tribalism and polar politics in many places. Snowflake liberals vs real 'Muricans. I've rarely ever heard the issue debated down at the level of whether they were effective protection .. or recommended.

I actually see a lot of overlap, in the sense of argument construct, with the anti-seatbelt Luddites. Thankfully subsiding, or slowly dying out. (Just driving to the store -- Won't happen to me -- Even if it does, it's my life ..! -- Government needs to stay the hell ..!)

[Ms. Toad]

12. I'm basing it on individuals I (and others) had convinced COVID was serious -

who had switched from believing it was made up to actively speaking out on social media against people who were not following the earlier restrictions, who switched back - and are expressly citing the mask requirement as one of the triggers for their change.

The government told them masks were ineffective (and that COVID 19 was increasing exponentially). They had come around to believing both. Then when Ohio started to open up they initially required a mask - after telling them that masks were ineffective.

I'm basing this on direct communications with people I know who - after complying with and advocating for restrictions - rebelled at the mask requirement (and are bootstrapping it into believing nothing the government tells them)

[still_one]

15. We don't really disagree, a large pat of it is political

[Laura PourMeADrink]

14. I never heard them say that masks didn't work... Just that they

were needed by health care workers. Kept waiting for "Now we are manufacturing for public and they will be free to pick up at x locations". But that never happened. Then they started saying only one side needed... If you had infection. That made zero sense too... Especially since they knew you were contagious with no symptoms.

You know, this is a HUGE campaign issue. Gotta pick some lanes.

[Brainfodder]

2. Meanwhile, reported that the U.S. had moved PPE to other countries, in early 2020?

[Laura PourMeADrink]

13. Really? I know trump was hawking vents. This is amazingly

despicable.

There are so many huge examples of his utter disregard for the well being of the public. This subject was huge during original impeachment discussions by founders.

Why DNC doesnt have an ad every day?

[torius]

4. I thought Trump didn't use the DPA

For that. He just lied and said he would IIRC. Then seized PPE from states.

[iemitsu]

5. Fauci should have told Americans that we were in short supply

and insisted we all stay at home until more could be provided.
He is as criminal as Trump.
And he has been way to quiet lately. We live in a shithole country.

[Ms. Toad]

8. agreed.

[soothsayer]

10. Agreed x2. We're grownups.

Though.... hoarders might have wiped them out worse.

Still, that misinformation has had long lasting effects as we can see.

[uponit7771]

17. +1, his logic tree on this is very disappointing. Damn near stupid, why come up with or go along wit

... something that 3 thoughts out isn't going to help him or anyone else.

Fuck that, now I gotta wonder if he's telling the truth going forward

[jayfish]

18. "Everything Trump Touches Dies" -NT-

[Cognitive_Resonance]

19. A key lesson from the 1918 pandemic was that governments must be honest with the public. Oh well. nt

[uponit7771]

20. "And he has been way to quiet lately." YES !!! WTF is he and why isn't he screaming and hollering...

... with his hair on fire !!

[tanyev]

21. Heck, provide patterns/guidelines and encourage everyone to make their own!

Which is basically what happened anyway. YouTube stepped up when the government gave up.

[iemitsu]

22. I was making masks by March 1st.

Made them for all of my family members and friends. Then made more for nurses in my town.
Haven't left my house since Feb 15th.

[tanyev]

24. I started delving into it late March, I think.

I’m not a good enough seamstress to make masks to donate, but once it became obvious that the box of 50 surgical masks I already owned was not going to be enough, I started watching YouTube videos and dug out my Tiny Tailor mending machine. Been refining the technique until I can honestly say I prefer the masks that I’ve made to the masks I’ve bought.

[iemitsu]

26. I saved four for our own use, not that we really need them

because we are not going out. I wear one while dropping mail in the box across the street and when mowing the lawn. Then I wash it.
The ones I've made are two layered and can have a filter slipped between the layers.
I prefer them to the bought ones too.
We have to take care of ourselves.

[spanone]

16. truth is dead in America

[Laura PourMeADrink]

28. True that truth is dead

[Baclava]

23. So, he lied. Fauci, 60 Minutes interview, "There's no reason to be walking around with a mask"

(Until we make sure all our elites get their supply hoard first - sorry peasants)

I got a supply of 50 surgical masks from Amazon for $12 in mid February, because I was seeing the first reports from China

Never wait to trust the govt to think for you

[Laura PourMeADrink]

27. Ha... Ordered my Chinese masks on Amazon too :).

Wow... He really said that exact quote?

Liar. Negligent Homicide. Where's the old "60 Minutes" when you need them?

There was a time he was the hero of the country. Funny how he could have chosen trump/his job over the truth...and now trump has disowned him. Karma.

[budkin]

25. Said that from day one

Such bullshit